Is this offer too low?

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Looking at buying a house. Asking price is $975k. With interest rates potentially going up, is it reasonable to offer $875k.

Great lot
Pool needs resurfacing
Some remodeling in kitchen and master bath.
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How long has it been on market? What do comps say? How sad will you be if you don't get it?
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Been on market for 3 weeks. Started at $1M and dropped to $975k.

Lot is outstanding. House needs sone work.

We like our house, but not a good lot and no pool. Kids are 9 and 11….they'd love a pool. Although in KC you really only swim June - Sept.
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What does your realtor say?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Worst they can say is no.
TxAg20
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Make whatever offer you're comfortable with.

I'm not a realtor, but I've paid more than I should have twice because my own realtor thought the seller would be offended by the offer I wanted to make and convinced me to raise my offer.

First was a house that I didn't like, but liked the lot. Seller was asking $295 for a 50 year old house that needed lots of updating. Seller had already moved out. I told my realtor to offer $250 cash, no inspection, as is. She talked me up to $275 and made the offer, seller accepted within 5 minutes, no counter offer.

Second is a similar story, but more back and forth. I've since become friends with the seller and know he wouldn't have been offended if I offered 1/2 of asking price. He wouldn't have taken it, but he would have negotiated.
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Realtor was more concerned getting their commission check than the best deal for the client.
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They always are. There are lots of misalignment issues between a buyer's realtor and the buyer. I could write a book, but that's another thread.
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It really depends on your market. If Dallas they would laugh at you. But your market maybe more a buyers market.
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SteveBott said:

It really depends on your market. If Dallas they would laugh at you. But your market maybe more a buyers market.

More to it than just market. Could be a hot market but still overpriced.

We're looking in probably the hottest market in houston, made 5 offers, all over asking. We are about to make an offer 6 figures below asking. Us, nor our realtor, have any qualms with it. We like the house, it's just drastically overpriced.
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Well if it over priced them it's not offered at market.
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I think you will get a counter, it's not a low ball offer imho

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I usually say offer 10% below no matter what. If you really have no attachment go lower.

Any man that's been to the dance hall is used to being told no, how could they offend you any more than that?
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TxAg20 said:

Make whatever offer you're comfortable with.

I'm not a realtor, but I've paid more than I should have twice because my own realtor thought the seller would be offended by the offer I wanted to make and convinced me to raise my offer.

First was a house that I didn't like, but liked the lot. Seller was asking $295 for a 50 year old house that needed lots of updating. Seller had already moved out. I told my realtor to offer $250 cash, no inspection, as is. She talked me up to $275 and made the offer, seller accepted within 5 minutes, no counter offer.

Second is a similar story, but more back and forth. I've since become friends with the seller and know he wouldn't have been offended if I offered 1/2 of asking price. He wouldn't have taken it, but he would have negotiated.


We dropped our realtor that's a family friend because of similar issues, but it wasn't even a commission situation. I think it was more ego related.

Dad passed away beginning of 2021 and went to sell the house towards the end of 2021. I wanted to ask about 25k higher than his range given it was crazy times and comparing comps. He basically "agreed" we could do about 10k over his range, acted like he didn't want to offend others but could've wanted to guarantee we'dget offers vs waiting awhile for the higher price. Ended up getting I think almost 20 offers in two days, and ended up getting more than 25k over his range. House only sold for under 200k (older smaller house in a small town), but I couldn't get past that plus some other comments and not even willing to hear us out about selling our current home cost him commission for the buy and sell of 325k and 540k.

Moral of the story, be a real person and listen to your clients.
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I just got a house under contract for a client. Our first offer was almost 10% below asking and I made it clear to the seller's agent by stating "we are starting at $X price." We didn't really say "we want to negotiate" but I made it clear to the sellers agent that they were serious buyers with a reduced option period and contingency's because my clients were dead set on buying the house - but only for the right price.

The seller countered only offer $4K off the listing price, which we countered back with a slight increase to our offer as best and final. Ended up netting the client the house at 6.5% under ask BEFORE they got our commission rebate which gives them another 1.5% to either help fund closing costs or reduce the purchase price even more.

Moral of the story - don't be afraid to offer $875K but make sure to speak with your agent about ways to make your offer more attractive - higher earnest money deposit, shorter option period, higher option money, etc. You're the client and you set the price cause it's YOUR purchase. If your realtor doesn't like that - well that's their issue and there are so many others who will operate under your requests.
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Keep looking. Be patient. The right house will come available eventually. Hard pass on a home that needs pool resurfacing and remodeling.
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Mas89 said:

Keep looking. Be patient. The right house will come available eventually. Hard pass on a home that needs pool resurfacing and remodeling.

I think this is the other aspect that, to me, doesn't make this a crazy low ball offer.

Houses with issues are sitting even though good homes are moving crazy fast. If you look, aren't afraid of this work, and know and consider the costs, deals can be had.
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TxAG#2011 said:

Realtor was more concerned getting their commission check than the best deal for the client.

Yup. This was a whole chapter in Freakonomics IIRC.
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SpiderDude said:

TxAG#2011 said:

Realtor was more concerned getting their commission check than the best deal for the client.

Yup. This was a whole chapter in Freakonomics IIRC.


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TxAg20 said:

They always are. There are lots of misalignment issues between a buyer's realtor and the buyer. I could write a book, but that's another thread.


Not always. Red pear is NOT that way.
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Quito said:

Looking at buying a house. Asking price is $975k. With interest rates potentially going up, is it reasonable to offer $875k.

Great lot
Pool needs resurfacing
Some remodeling in kitchen and master bath.
square footage, comps, location?

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TxAg20 said:

Make whatever offer you're comfortable with.

I'm not a realtor, but I've paid more than I should have twice because my own realtor thought the seller would be offended by the offer I wanted to make and convinced me to raise my offer.

First was a house that I didn't like, but liked the lot. Seller was asking $295 for a 50 year old house that needed lots of updating. Seller had already moved out. I told my realtor to offer $250 cash, no inspection, as is. She talked me up to $275 and made the offer, seller accepted within 5 minutes, no counter offer.

Second is a similar story, but more back and forth. I've since become friends with the seller and know he wouldn't have been offended if I offered 1/2 of asking price. He wouldn't have taken it, but he would have negotiated.
This offended comment from realtors offends me.

It's just a ploy so the realtor has a better chance at a winning offer.

This should be a business transaction. anyone really acting offended needs to check their emotions at the door.
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SteveBott said:

It really depends on your market. If Dallas they would laugh at you. But your market maybe more a buyers market.
why? it's been on the market three weeks.
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SteveBott said:

Well if it over priced them it's not offered at market.
you don't have any details on the property. no way to know here the correct price for this property.
Quito
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Very good neighborhood…most houses over $1M.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/15409-Aberdeen-St_Leawood_KS_66224_M73435-22936
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A lot of SQFT and dated. Better question is if the house is a fit for you all. To bring it up to present day would require a significant investment. Not saying it's not worth it but is that what you all want to do?

Edit: I agree about the lot, which is valuable and will be rewarded at resale; however, what is the green space that it backs up to? Future development? Green belt?
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If you really love the house and don't see anything you hate, go for it. Make a good offer, not a stingy one because you won't stand a chance if the house is in demand.

In the long run, you will not miss the extra $10k or $15k. My friend gave me that advice in 2002 when I was going to buy my first townhouse and the seller was stuck at $202k but I wanted it below $200k (even $199k). Why was I hung up on that? No reason. I gave in and that was the best decision. Loved the house, lived there 8 years.
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The green space is owned by adjacent neighborhood and there is no access to it from any direction.

That is a water treatment plant to the east, but you can't see it from the property.
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**Update**

We offered $875 and they sat on it, but ended up accepting late last night!

We have sone work to do, but excited about the "vision" we have for the house.
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Wow, accepted with no counter. Congrats!
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TxAg20 said:

Make whatever offer you're comfortable with.

I'm not a realtor, but I've paid more than I should have twice because my own realtor thought the seller would be offended by the offer I wanted to make and convinced me to raise my offer.

First was a house that I didn't like, but liked the lot. Seller was asking $295 for a 50 year old house that needed lots of updating. Seller had already moved out. I told my realtor to offer $250 cash, no inspection, as is. She talked me up to $275 and made the offer, seller accepted within 5 minutes, no counter offer.

Second is a similar story, but more back and forth. I've since become friends with the seller and know he wouldn't have been offended if I offered 1/2 of asking price. He wouldn't have taken it, but he would have negotiated.


That offended by the offer thing drives me nuts.
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Outstanding! Congrats!
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Shoulda offered $825

/texags
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chrisfield said:

Wow, accepted with no counter. Congrats!


They countered $910. We said no, but gave them 21 day close non contingent at $875
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I see. Removes any opportunity of development backing up to you so that's a win. That water treatment plan is massive. I live in emerald forest here in CS on one of the culdesacs closer to the water treatment plant and from time to time/prob every week, the odor from it is pretty strong. I would say I am farther away from it then this house in KS appears to be. If you have an option period the smell and talking with neighbors could be worth vetting.
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