How much Equity in Business Purchase?

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Corps_Ag12
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Looking at buying an existing small business from a retiring electrician. He will stay on for licensure for 10 years during the owner finance period. The existing apprentices would get ownership to stay on while they get their journeyman's license and at least one get a masters license. If they quit they forfeit ownership.

The purchase would be a partnership with another business owner I am friends with as we both use this electrician for our existing but separate businesses.

My question is if I am putting up all the capital for the down payment, how much ownership should I receive? The down payment is 12.5% of the business purchase price but I feel as though I am shouldering most of the risk.

Thoughts?
Hanrahan
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You are shouldering all the risk my man. What's the other guy bringing to the table? No offense but if you are asking this question on a message board you are very far from having a plan I would even consider moving on. Shouldn't this have been the first thing you guys discussed when you came up with you fronting all the equity? Sounds like you are the one with money so that joint guaranty of balance of the purchase could ultimately fall on you. It's not like if you default on a million dollar note with joint liability you are 50/50 on owing it back. It could be 100/0 if you have money and he doesn't. You said owner financing so you may not have this kind of structure and just front the business as your collateral but ithe seller would still likely have a claw back for any shortfall from you and your partner if you are forced to sell a failing business to cover the debt, which obviously won't cover it.

This is a longer way to say joint business ownership with only one guy with his balls in a vice is rarely a recipe for success unless he has to earn his way to equity by working and growing the business. Even then he could simply peace out on you and if you have the means of covering the debt the seller will come after you for all of it.

Said even more succinctly. Going into business with friends is usually a terrible idea. Even more so when only one guy has skin in the game.
Corps_Ag12
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I appreciate your response. That's why I posted was to see the bigger picture.

I guess I was looking at it from the angle of not having to find a new electrician if things didn't work out as well as owning another business that brings in capital. Trades are in high demand these days and I think that is only going to go up.
DannyDuberstein
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Agree with above. If he's not putting anything up yet, then you are buying this business, not him. I'd structure it that way if you want it regardless - you own 100%. If you don't, I'd walk. If you want to buy it anyway as the 100% owner and want an avenue for him to be included, you could consider establishing a separate agreement where he can buy a certain % a certain price at defined point/range in time. But until he buys in, it is yours. Also, if he can't scrounge up even 6%, I'd be pretty careful about how much I'd consider selling to him and probably don't at all. You need to decide if you want this business as your own.
DannyDuberstein
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On the friend aspect, I just couch it as - don't go into business with friends unless you are prepared to (1) not be friends at some point and (2) keep business as business and the friendship out of decisions that impact it. That 2nd one can be harder than it sounds, and it's already a little concerning that you were considering fronting the entire down payment.
Proposition Joe
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Yup, sounds fun until it goes south and then its a nightmare.
redaszag99
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I run an industrial electrical construction business.

Who is going to be bidding jobs and running the work?

Don't count on your apprentices taking the journeyman exam. Some will and some won't.

I wouldn't give any of the workers equity.
Apache
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Quote:

Looking at buying an existing small business from a retiring electrician. He will stay on for licensure for 10 years during the owner finance period.

You're depending on the guy retiring to stay on for 10 years? How old is he now?
If something happens to him, what will you do for licensing?
Sims
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If you're set on making it work...

Capital weight the equity upfront and give him a potential earnback with performance obligations.

You need preferred return on your capital before any profit split, honestly I'd start at 12%...then distributions follow equity % at the time. Your risk is asymmetrical and your return should be as well.

Joint personal guarantee...if he can't do it, walk. He's a free-rider otherwise. If he does sign, move closer to 70/30 with multi-year vest...you could have an alternate master next year so you really may not need him for 10.

Put key person insurance on him sufficient to pay any company debt if he dies, disability insurance too. Identify a backup master now...there's tons who will just be master for a fee.

If you're dead set on giving equity to the workers, make it phantom equity. It's deferred comp with profitability levers but doesn't carry any voting rights. Tie the vesting of the phantom equity to license attainment/continued employment.

Structure the deal as an asset purchase, not a stock purchase. That way you absolve yourself from any of his prior contractual/liability screwups.

Have a lawyer review it all with only you in mind prior to kicking things off. Easier to pay a thousand in legal fees upfront then 10x that in a dispute afterwards.
BTHOtrolls
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I work with people to sell smaller businesses on a regular basis.

Here are some things many buyers don't think about…

1. Asset vs. Stock Sale

As already mentioned on this thread, you likely prefer an asset sale where you form a new legal entity and do not acquire the existing owner's legal entity.

In some cases, a stock sale is required due to circumstances like licenses or contracts being tied to the existing owner's legal entity that can't be quickly or practically assigned to your new entity.

As the buyer, you'll almost always come out ahead from a tax perspective on an asset sale. The bigger benefit to an asset sale though is you avoid "skeleton in the closet" risk. Those skeletons could be pending lawsuits, warranties on past work, labor issues, owed vendors, employee issues, etc.

2. IRS Form 8594

This is the number one thing that people not familiar with buying small businesses overlook, from what I see, .

When you buy a business as an asset sale, the purchase price needs to be allocated between things like inventory, tangible stuff, and goodwill. You and the seller should file Form 8594 with the IRS that shows how the purchase price was allocated.

It's important that your purchase agreement clearly defines how you'll both file Form 8594 with the IRS.

You do not want to be having conversations about how to fill out form form 8594 after money has already exchanged hands.

Get a CPA to give you advice on filling out Form 8594 and watch some YouTube videos to understand its purpose so you're educated when negotiating the allocation into your agreement.

3. Personal Guarantee

The seller should require you to sign a personal guarantee on the seller financing note. If they're not then good on you, but…

If you and your partner both sign a guarantee, but only you have financial resources to repay it, then you'll likely be the seller's focus on collection if there's ever an incentive to litigate.

4. Non-Compete

Your seller should sign a legally binding non-compete when the sale closes that adequately covers your geographic area. It's also common to require them to sign a non-solicitation agreement stating they won't attempt to poach any customers or employees.

5. Closing Documents

Each deal is unique, but you'll normally want things like an asset purchase agreement, bill of sale, lien search, certificate of no tax due, etc., handled by a closing attorney who specializes in small business sales. This cost between $7K up to 1% of the purchase price from my experience. Not something to be cheap on.

6. Buy / Sell Agreement

I'm of the same opinion as others….

you're more likely than not going to regret getting into a partnership where the other side isn't contributing capital.

If you go down that path, you should have a buy / sell mechanism in your operating agreement with the partner where you're able to buy them out.

It should ideally be for a clear amount and heavily favor you if you're putting up all the capital.

If there's debt involved, then look into getting life insurance, paid by the business, on your partner so that if anything happens to him, that policy settles his outstanding debt.

The only thing worse than getting into a bad partnership is being stuck in one!
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