Vic Schaefer

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Coach Schaefer was at my daughters BB Game tonight watching one of his commits, Deyona Gaston, lead the Pearland Lady Oilers to their 12th W in a row. The Lady O's are rolling and could be a fun run in the playoffs but man, lots of tough teams in our area. Got to briefly say howdy and tell him I was looking forward to him coming back to Aggieland in the nearish future. He just grinned. I get the impression he REALLY likes being the head coach at Miss State.

I know .. cool story - but hey, just had to do it.
Bucketrunner
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Nope. He needs to stay in Mississippi
Reno Hightower
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Well, let's all go ring a cowbell
Thymes
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I wouldn't look forward to his coming back here at all.
Jimma
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For him to comeback there needs to be a head coach opening. I would not be surprised if he came back when Coach Blair retires.
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Unless when Blair leaves he's offered a bucket of money, I wouldn't expect him to return. He's built a very good program at MSU, and the support for him there is much greater than the support for Blair's teams here. The support level is the same when he was here.

Without being bought here, what's his motivation for returning?
Ol Jock 99
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Vic turns 59 in March, has build a powerhouse at MSU, and is paid handsomely. I don't see him moving.

I did run into Maryann Baker at a local grocery a few summers back. She'd love to be back in Aggieland.
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Thymes said:

I wouldn't look forward to his coming back here at all.
Ran up the score when they played at CS .
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BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:

Thymes said:

I wouldn't look forward to his coming back here at all.
Ran up the score when they played at CS .
So then did we run up the score on them first couple years Vic was there? First 2 years there we damn near had 40 point margins.
Rudybryan
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I think it was more about were they jamming Howard down our throats
cs69ag
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He may retire in Texas, but doubt he coaches here when Gary retires
He has built his own legacy at MSU rather than taking over another guys program
Blair decided to coach many more years, closing the opportunity for Vic. here
Ol Jock 99
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I really hope we don't regret letting Blair stay as long as he likes.
Bucketrunner
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He's earned that right.
cs69ag
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Blair would have a pretty good shot at a second NC if Carter comes back for her senior year.
Will likely struggle to get to elite 8 this year...hope I am wrong!
Rudybryan
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There are 347 Division I college basketball teams. Each team offers 13 scholarships. Hence, there are about 4,511 Division I college basketball players this year.

GARY BLAIR
17th Season at Texas A&M
Women's Basketball Hall of Fame member, Gary
Blair, led Texas A&M to the 2011 NCAA Championship and has transformed the women's basketball
program into a national power since his appointment as head coach in 2003.
Blair, a two-time national finalist for the Naismith
Coach of the Year Award, has guided Texas A&M to
13 straight NCAA Tournament appearances, and
to four conference championships, including the
2013 SEC Tournament Championship.

Blair led the Aggies to their first national title in
their first-ever trip to the NCAA Women's Final Four
and closed out the 2010-11 season with a 33-5
record, the most victories in program history.

The Aggies have made six appearances in the
Sweet Sixteen in the past 11 years, and reached
the Elite Eight in 2008, 2011 and 2014.

Over the course of his 34-year collegiate coaching career, which includes stops at Stephen F. Austin from 1985-93 and Arkansas from 1993-03, Blair
has led his teams to 33 winning seasons (including
2018-19), 28 20-win seasons (including 2018-19), 25
NCAA Tournament appearances (including 2018-
19) and 39 NCAA postseason victories.

Blair has won a championship at every level of his
coaching career, including three state championships at Dallas South Oak Cliff High School, two
national championships as an assistant coach at
Louisiana Tech, a WNIT Championship at Arkansas
and an NCAA championship at Texas A&M.

ON BLAIR'S CAREER
Blair led Texas A&M to the 2011 NCAA Championship, and 14 straight NCAA Tournament appearances
Blair is a member of six Hall of Fames, including
the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame
Blair is one of three coaches who has taken two
or more schools to the Women's Final Four, joining
Marianne Stanley (Old Dominion & Stanford) and C.
Vivian Stringer (Cheyney, Iowa, Rutgers)
Blair is sixth among active coaches with 25 NCAA
Tournament appearances
Blair has won 20+ games in 28 seasons which
is 11th all-time
Seven of Blair's former players and assistants
have gone on to become head Division I women's
basketball coaches
Blair has won a total of 17 conference and conference tournament championships between the
Southland Conference, Big 12, and SEC

CAREER RECORD BY WINS (DIVISION I)
1. Pat Summitt 1,098-208
10. Andy Landers 862-299
11. Gary Blair (Texas A&M) 809-325
12. Joe Foley (Little Rock) 797-266
Blair is 5th among active coaches


So above our his bonafides.....who do you get to replace him that will be
as consistent or better than him.
Rudybryan
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cs69ag said:

Blair would have a pretty good shot at a second NC if Carter comes back for her senior year.
Will likely struggle to get to elite 8 this year...hope I am wrong!
Vic had a great team for 3 years with McCowan and 4th year added Howard couldn't get any

Kim had Griner & Sims for 4 years and could only get 1

To achieve the NC is not easy.....

ACTIVE HEAD COACHES WITH A NATIONAL TITLE
ACC.....Geno Auriemma (Connecticut - 11 Times) was Big East for 34yrs
SEC.....Gary Blair (Texas A&M - 2011)
Big10....Brenda Frese (Maryland - 2006)
ACC ... .Muffet McGraw (Notre Dame - 2001, 2018) - 17 yrs apart
XII........ Kim Mulkey (Baylor - 2005, 2012, 2019) - notice hers are 7 yrs apart
SEC..... Dawn Staley (South Carolina - 2017)
PAC12..Tara VanDerveer (Stanford - 1990, 1992)
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Didn't realize he was 59 (didn't do my homework). I did not mean to insinuate that I wanted Blair gone now. Just figured he is bound to retire in the 'nearish' future. But I agree with somebody above -- Vic has built a great program and just may stay there until he retires. Was just nice of him to show up in podunk suburb Houston when he really didn't need to since she is already committed.
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Bucketrunner said:

He's earned that right.
The trip from "Decent team" to "poor team" is a whole lot easier than the trip from decent to great.

Put another way, every Heavyweight Champ who doesn't retire smartly goes out with an L.
Sananag
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Definitely miss his recruiting.
Bucketrunner
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I don't miss the teaching of the flop, the foul as much as you can get away with, the histrionics on the sidelines (I've heard him compared to Mulkey by tv announcers), and the stabbing in the back of his friends who helped him get his current position.


But that's just me.
Ol Jock 99
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the stabbing in the back of his friends who helped him get his current position
The other stuff doesn't matter one little bit. Curious about this though.
cs69ag
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Re Vic, think he taught players how to take a charge and when they fall, how to not hit their head, Don't think he teaches flopping. He does teach a very close guarding in your jersey type D with trying to deny the entry pass to the wings or the post...it can be physical, and sometimes pick up too many fouls. Depending on how the set of refs call the game, his D is effective or it is not. Seems like pretty effective at MSU and for our NC in 2011.

Vic is vocal on the sidelines, but doubt it approaches Mulkey's level or Bob Huggins in the men's game.

Re loyalty, I do hate that he took Johnnie from Gary's staff with him. Perhaps she was ready to move on and up anyway. Re Anriel, she was going somewhere and checked with several schools, including Uconn , who was not interested...so, I don't blame Vic for going after her.

Just my opinions trying to be as objective as I can. He is a good man, a great Aggie and a very tough competitor.
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No doubt Blair has done good things. But maybe he's raised my expectation level accordingly and it hasn't matched our play for awhile now. What used to be ok because we weren't supposed to be good just isn't fun anymore and can be downright painful. I'd like to see Vic come back because I'm familiar with him, like his style of play and he has the Aggie connection. But I'd take anyone who could better achieve the potential I think we have and make it fun again.
cs69ag
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I agree it is not as fun lately. I think part of it is we seem to under achieve relative to what most think is our talent level. I will add the O is too stagnant in too many games....particularly vs a zone D. Player development is an issue in some cases....is Johnson any better than last year? Jones is. Carter was playing a better all around game plus better D before she was hurt. Kayla coming on now after a slow start to the season. Wilson coming on now too after her injury. Seems like the sum of the parts not adding up to wins vs the better teams.
Thymes
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Gary loses his best player to an injury and loses a few games.

All of a sudden, the "retire Gary, hire Vic" crowd is back again.

Where were you guys back when we had only one loss?
cs69ag
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We lost to FSU by 22 with Carter on a neutral court

The reality is Blair no hurry to retire and Vic not coming here to coach.
Thymes
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I didn't see any calls for Blair's scalp after we lost to FSU.

But I agree with your second sentence.
Ol Jock 99
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I thought he's needed to retire for at least the past 4 years.

The guy is a Hall of Famer and we've been incredibly fortunate to have him. But it is time.
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Without the incredible good fortune in signing Carter, Gary would have been asked to retire. Baylor and t.u own the state of Texas in women's basketball recruiting.
cs69ag
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You do not scalp someone for one bad blowout loss, but it is an indication of bigger problems.
No way lsu should be mentally and physically better, even without Carter or UK blow us out by 22 even without Carter. Yes 20 % shooting gets you beat,....the problem is the O and the type of shots taken.
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diamond4 said:

Without the incredible good fortune in signing Carter, Gary would have been asked to retire. Baylor and t.u own the state of Texas in women's basketball recruiting.
Funny but I have been around long enough that when we were in Big XII everyone was
*****ing because we never got any of the girls from out of state like back east or up north

We have always pulled from Arl Ok and La.....
We have pulled from Chicago Latvia MI Ga

and guess what we still have 5 texans on the rooster

An example of a Texan we had to pass on McCowan came out of Brenham problem was she academically didn't qualify here but did qualify at Ms State.........does that mean for the sake of the game we lower the academic standards of our school.

By the way last time tu was ncaa wbb champions was 1986 last time in final four 2003 so what's your point




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Hope we never lower our academic standards... think Vandy, Mizzou, Florida and Texas A&M are the best academic universities in the SEC! Wish the recruiting standards were level re academics.
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