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This wasn't my prediction just a couple of months ago but I can't imagine any "internal candidates" from our women's basketball program will be promoted to head coach next season. So I move my prediction of that happening from 90% to 1%.

Additionally, our new coaches are going to have their work cut out for them because there isn't much returning on our roster.

We are a total rebuild.
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Right you are Gap.

Clean out lockers and clean out the desks.

What a dismal year!
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Gap said:

This wasn't my prediction just a couple of months ago but I can't imagine any "internal candidates" from our women's basketball program will be promoted to head coach next season. So I move my prediction of that happening from 90% to 1%.

Additionally, our new coaches are going to have their work cut out for them because there isn't much returning on our roster.

We are a total rebuild.


This won't be a Kim Mulkey turn around like LSU had this season. Although, she has said they won't be as good next year, I expect lsu to be amazing for many years to come.

I have no idea who a possible candidate could be. If it's internal, I have serious questions.
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To be honest, the departure was stage managed for some specific outcome. It might merely have been to give Blair a send off, but the silent extension past the end of the previous contract that expired last year is curious.

But I now expect it will get eerily silent until the end of the NCAA tournament or at least until our target's school has completed their competition campaign in the post-season.

What is interesting is how little of how the "sausage got made" with Schlossnagle went public. It was a huge hire from an expectations standpoint (though missing the NC skin that set apart the Fisher hire.) Gives us some reason to expect the administration and TMF have a better approach this time than has seemed a rather haphazard approach previously. But overlooking Vic and Kim seems short-sighted. Unless they weren't interested of course…
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greg.w.h said:

To be honest, the departure was stage managed for some specific outcome. It might merely have been to give Blair a send off, but the silent extension past the end of the previous contract that expired last year is curious.

But I now expect it will get eerily silent until the end of the NCAA tournament or at least until our target's school has completed their competition campaign in the post-season.

What is interesting is how little of how the "sausage got made" with Schlossnagle went public. It was a huge hire from an expectations standpoint (though missing the NC skin that set apart the Fisher hire.) Gives us some reason to expect the administration and TMF have a better approach this time than has seemed a rather haphazard approach previously. But overlooking Vic and Kim seems short-sighted. Unless they weren't interested of course…


Yes yes yes - agree with everything you've said. I think the only way we will ever know if it were truly staged is by the next hire. Gary's post game was curious and it kind of alluded to that fact, but again, as you've said, don't read too much into tea leaves.

I cannot fathom it being Kim but what do I know? Possibly Vic? Again, who knows. Ross needs a splash!

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aggiedrjdub said:

greg.w.h said:

To be honest, the departure was stage managed for some specific outcome. It might merely have been to give Blair a send off, but the silent extension past the end of the previous contract that expired last year is curious.

But I now expect it will get eerily silent until the end of the NCAA tournament or at least until our target's school has completed their competition campaign in the post-season.

What is interesting is how little of how the "sausage got made" with Schlossnagle went public. It was a huge hire from an expectations standpoint (though missing the NC skin that set apart the Fisher hire.) Gives us some reason to expect the administration and TMF have a better approach this time than has seemed a rather haphazard approach previously. But overlooking Vic and Kim seems short-sighted. Unless they weren't interested of course…


Yes yes yes - agree with everything you've said. I think the only way we will ever know if it were truly staged is by the next hire. Gary's post game was curious and it kind of alluded to that fact, but again, as you've said, don't read too much into tea leaves.

I cannot fathom it being Kim but what do I know? Possibly Vic? Again, who knows. Ross needs a splash!


Ross saying out loud they need to pay more was shocking. That's a very unusual stance going into a negotiation. Unless the ink is dry.
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greg.w.h said:

aggiedrjdub said:

greg.w.h said:

To be honest, the departure was stage managed for some specific outcome. It might merely have been to give Blair a send off, but the silent extension past the end of the previous contract that expired last year is curious.

But I now expect it will get eerily silent until the end of the NCAA tournament or at least until our target's school has completed their competition campaign in the post-season.

What is interesting is how little of how the "sausage got made" with Schlossnagle went public. It was a huge hire from an expectations standpoint (though missing the NC skin that set apart the Fisher hire.) Gives us some reason to expect the administration and TMF have a better approach this time than has seemed a rather haphazard approach previously. But overlooking Vic and Kim seems short-sighted. Unless they weren't interested of course…


Yes yes yes - agree with everything you've said. I think the only way we will ever know if it were truly staged is by the next hire. Gary's post game was curious and it kind of alluded to that fact, but again, as you've said, don't read too much into tea leaves.

I cannot fathom it being Kim but what do I know? Possibly Vic? Again, who knows. Ross needs a splash!


Ross saying out loud they need to pay more was shocking. That's a very unusual stance going into a negotiation. Unless the ink is dry.


That's a great point. I'm sure coach Blair was like "wtf" by that statement haha

I think in my mind that would answer a lot of questions about how the season transpired.
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We lose 4 3 grads 1 Sr Leaves 10

So lockers are still full

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Gap said:

This wasn't my prediction just a couple of months ago but I can't imagine any "internal candidates" from our women's basketball program will be promoted to head coach next season. So I move my prediction of that happening from 90% to 1%.

Additionally, our new coaches are going to have their work cut out for them because there isn't much returning on our roster.

We are a total rebuild.


We return 10
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Rudybryan said:

Gap said:

This wasn't my prediction just a couple of months ago but I can't imagine any "internal candidates" from our women's basketball program will be promoted to head coach next season. So I move my prediction of that happening from 90% to 1%.

Additionally, our new coaches are going to have their work cut out for them because there isn't much returning on our roster.

We are a total rebuild.

We return 10
We lose:

Wells
Hoppie
Pitts
Patty
Nixon (if the rumor mill is accurate)

So the players you bring back next year that were central in this years team were:

Roby
McKinzie Green
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Gap said:

Rudybryan said:

Gap said:

This wasn't my prediction just a couple of months ago but I can't imagine any "internal candidates" from our women's basketball program will be promoted to head coach next season. So I move my prediction of that happening from 90% to 1%.

Additionally, our new coaches are going to have their work cut out for them because there isn't much returning on our roster.

We are a total rebuild.

We return 10
We lose:

Wells
Hoppie
Pitts
Patty
Nixon (if the rumor mill is accurate)

So the players you bring back next year that were central in this years team were:

Roby
McKinzie Green



How many will transfer out based on the new hire is the question…
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After the final home game I heard that there will be another player leaving. Someone who's mother was very vocal in that 'we never liked A&M'
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Kbeauty63 said:

After the final home game I heard that there will be another player leaving. Someone who's mother was very vocal in that 'we never liked A&M'


Can you tell us who? I have a feeling we will lose several. I have a feeling we may lose Roby for sure (sadly), and possibly Jada Malone (sadly). I think Nixon is done.
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aggiedrjdub said:

Kbeauty63 said:

After the final home game I heard that there will be another player leaving. Someone who's mother was very vocal in that 'we never liked A&M'


Can you tell us who? I have a feeling we will lose several. I have a feeling we may lose Roby for sure (sadly), and possibly Jada Malone (sadly). I think Nixon is done.


Unfortunately the person who said it couldn't remember who's mother it was. However I DID talk to Sydnee Roby's aunt - and I think she is staying. My money would be on Maliyah. I vaguely remember hearing her mom talking after a game (but still don't know)
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Awww dang. I love Maliyah
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Arizona States coach of 25 years just retired as well. Let the coaching search competition commence.
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Patty is not leaving. On senior day, the only three honored were Kayla, Q, and Destiny. I would expect Jordan to either transfer or step away from basketball, and I don't see Roby leaving. That being said, you return Patty and Roby, but I think you still need to find a 6'4-6'6" talented big in the portal or it's gonna be rough again next year. I would also expect some attrition from the younger girls who don't play as much (Perry, MJ, Kay Kay, etc). Then we have 3 guards coming in this next class which leaves even less spots to fill. If I had to guess, we're gonna see a pretty significant number of transfer portal entries, but that's how it needs to be because the new coach is going to need to hit the restart button.
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Thanks for that information. I was there and didn't pick up on who wasn't out there. I really hope Patty returns. There will be a lot of decisions and re-recruiting to be done after our new head coach is announced.



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Rudybryan said:

Gap said:

This wasn't my prediction just a couple of months ago but I can't imagine any "internal candidates" from our women's basketball program will be promoted to head coach next season. So I move my prediction of that happening from 90% to 1%.

Additionally, our new coaches are going to have their work cut out for them because there isn't much returning on our roster.

We are a total rebuild.


We return 10
mostly 2nd string!
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HoovAustin said:

Patty is not leaving. On senior day, the only three honored were Kayla, Q, and Destiny. I would expect Jordan to either transfer or step away from basketball, and I don't see Roby leaving. That being said, you return Patty and Roby, but I think you still need to find a 6'4-6'6" talented big in the portal or it's gonna be rough again next year. I would also expect some attrition from the younger girls who don't play as much (Perry, MJ, Kay Kay, etc). Then we have 3 guards coming in this next class which leaves even less spots to fill. If I had to guess, we're gonna see a pretty significant number of transfer portal entries, but that's how it needs to be because the new coach is going to need to hit the restart button.


My worry is those that have committed did so for coach Blair and coach KBW. Will they still come once the new coach is hired or will they re-open their recruitment to search for a better option?

I truly hope Patty and Roby return. Jada also has so much potential. I think the tall girl we have hasn't been given any playing time to develop at all.

Nixon - only she knows where her heart is, but I think not having surgery when recommended is a sign that maybe she's ready to move on? I don't see her transferring. Having said that, I never imagined lashes would leave.
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I think we will have no real idea of who stays or goes until new coach is hired.
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Wouldn't it be best if just about everyone leaves?
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If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
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If we don't choose a woman coach, our recruiting woes will continue. I don't know who she is, but she's out there somewhere.
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Vic Schaefer would be the only male candidate we could hire politically.
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85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
I think KBW would stay for him, as well.

I wish they'd announce something soon. I'm tired of waiting. hahahaha
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85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't see a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
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BQ_90 said:

85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
This.
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HoovAustin said:

BQ_90 said:

85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
This.
Why would we not pay $2 million a year for the right coach? I think with Ross saying he knows we have to pay more based on the market is an indication that money is not an issue for the right coach. I'm not saying that Vic is the right coach, but these contracts are made to be broken and almost all have an out clause for the coach and the school.

What about coach Yo from OleMiss?
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aggiedrjdub said:

HoovAustin said:

BQ_90 said:

85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
This.
Why would we not pay $2 million a year for the right coach? I think with Ross saying he knows we have to pay more based on the market is an indication that money is not an issue for the right coach. I'm not saying that Vic is the right coach, but these contracts are made to be broken and almost all have an out clause for the coach and the school.

What about coach Yo from OleMiss?
Coach Yo makes $500k a year at Ole Miss. Her original contract was a 4-year deal signed in 2018, but was extended in March of 2021 to coach until 2025. I have no doubt that we will do everything in our power to hire Vic, but that's a lot of damn money. Fingers crossed, but I would be just about as happy with Coach Yo despite it seeming like she has no intentions of leaving Oxford anytime soon.
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HoovAustin said:

aggiedrjdub said:

HoovAustin said:

BQ_90 said:

85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
This.
Why would we not pay $2 million a year for the right coach? I think with Ross saying he knows we have to pay more based on the market is an indication that money is not an issue for the right coach. I'm not saying that Vic is the right coach, but these contracts are made to be broken and almost all have an out clause for the coach and the school.

What about coach Yo from OleMiss?
Coach Yo makes $500k a year at Ole Miss. Her original contract was a 4-year deal signed in 2018, but was extended in March of 2021 to coach until 2025. I have no doubt that we will do everything in our power to hire Vic, but that's a lot of damn money. Fingers crossed, but I would be just about as happy with Coach Yo despite it seeming like she has no intentions of leaving Oxford anytime soon.
what I saw she's making $750k
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BQ_90 said:

HoovAustin said:

aggiedrjdub said:

HoovAustin said:

BQ_90 said:

85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
This.
Why would we not pay $2 million a year for the right coach? I think with Ross saying he knows we have to pay more based on the market is an indication that money is not an issue for the right coach. I'm not saying that Vic is the right coach, but these contracts are made to be broken and almost all have an out clause for the coach and the school.

What about coach Yo from OleMiss?
Coach Yo makes $500k a year at Ole Miss. Her original contract was a 4-year deal signed in 2018, but was extended in March of 2021 to coach until 2025. I have no doubt that we will do everything in our power to hire Vic, but that's a lot of damn money. Fingers crossed, but I would be just about as happy with Coach Yo despite it seeming like she has no intentions of leaving Oxford anytime soon.
what I saw she's making $750k
Damn they might've upped her on that last extension
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aggiedrjdub said:

HoovAustin said:

BQ_90 said:

85AustinAg said:

If Vic isn't #1 on our list then we don't know what the hell we're doing here. If he has just one percent of pride for his school then he's not staying with the Longhorns. Can you imagine going down as this great women's basketball coach at tu that graduated from A&M. Make him turn us down and we'll know a helluva lot more about the man.

And as far as I can tell he's won wherever he's been. That's what we need. We can't afford to promote from within and wait for an unknown outcome.
he's got 3 more years on the contract, which is 1.8 million, which means he's got 5.4 million left (actually it's more because he get raises every year). I didn't look it up, is there a buyout?

Sorry I don't see us paying him 2 million a year (which is what he'll make with sips) in addition to buyout his 5+ million contract, plus assistants and so on.

Not to mention a complete rebuild here.

I just don't a way where he comes here unless there is zero buyout
This.
Why would we not pay $2 million a year for the right coach? I think with Ross saying he knows we have to pay more based on the market is an indication that money is not an issue for the right coach. I'm not saying that Vic is the right coach, but these contracts are made to be broken and almost all have an out clause for the coach and the school.

What about coach Yo from OleMiss?
I don't see us paying that along with 5-6 million buyout. Again, Ross might thing differently. Now maybe the sips have no buyouts and he can walk away free and clean. IDK.
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Now, take it for what it's worth, but I had the chance to meet Vic while he was watching my high schools girls basketball team in the playoffs a couple weeks. While we were leaving my dad made a joke like "my son wasn't trying to recruit you back to A&M was he" and Vic responded "thats a pretty hard sell right now." He could've just been trying to squash the rumor but that doesn't sound like a response from our future head coach.
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Finished the regular season #7. The man knows how to win.
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