Injury update, etc

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https://theeagle.com/sports/college/aggiesports/womens_basketball/kansas-womens-basketball-team-has-too-much-firepower-for-limited-texas-a-m/article_5fd6990a-712f-11ed-b90f-732a62c70514.html

X-ray shows no broken bones for Barker. She and Roby (knee) will be evaluated further. Hoping we get them both back sooner than later. Patty lost her great-grandmother (who raised her) this week. Like Joni said, hats off to her for playing with a heavy heart this week. Condolences to Aaliyah and her family. You never know what these young ladies are dealing with off the court. If you read Joni's postgame comments in the article, you'll see that she is very displeased by the team's overall performance, as she should be. She doesn't use the injuries as an excuse (even though we lost our leading scorer/rebounder minutes into the game.) She does single out Sahara for "playing her butt off" and said the others need to "join the party." There's a reason she chose "becoming" as this year's theme. She knew it would be a challenging year. We have a long way to go. Anyone who thought different, hasn't been paying attention. Right now we don't have all the parts to be a top D1 team. That's just a fact. But calling players out by name as being bad players on this forum isn't helping anyone. Don't think that recruits and their parents don't read these boards. Not to mention our current players, who I'm sure have been told not to but we know how that goes. These young women are Aggies. They need our support now more than ever. I'm just as disappointed in poor play or effort as the next person. I'm not lowering my standards, but I am trying to be realistic about where we are at this point. We all have our opinions and sometimes agree to disagree. That's all fair game, but mentioning specific players as not being any good and needing to leave the team is just bad bull. We are the Aggies! Gig Em!!
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Agree - I'm wondering if Roby was injured even before going down yesterday. She has been moving very slowly and seems a bit unsure of herself. Praying she's okay.

Long season ahead. Perhaps we fans should implement a 24 hour rule before responding. I think we are all guilty of expressing negative emotions too often. My frustration is in the lack of desire I'm seeing. We saw this last season, too. It's sad when you see freshman out hustling and outplaying our seniors. Props to Sahara, as well! Jada has really come on strong and it is clear she wants a more prominent role.

We have to stop turning the ball over so freely. Many times the turnovers are self inflicted and not even forced. And getting beat off the first dribble has to be another area of concern. Lastly, free throws. This team, especially, cannot leave points on the table.

Gig'em!! We are here for the long haul. Just praying we see some improvement as the season progresses. I was initially questioning our SEC preseason pick of finishing 11th; now, I can see why. Will the team challenge themselves and beat that expectation?

One more thing, we are the 2nd youngest team in the SEC? Who is the youngest team? I want to watch our matchup with whoever that team is very closely.
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Auburn is the youngest team, BUT they return their two leading scorers, including 2021 2nd Team All-SEC Aicha Coulibaly. Coach is in her 2nd year so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Should be more representative of where we stand, I would think.
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aggiedrjdub said:

Agree - I'm wondering if Roby was injured even before going down yesterday. She has been moving very slowly and seems a bit unsure of herself. Praying she's okay.

Long season ahead. Perhaps we fans should implement a 24 hour rule before responding. I think we are all guilty of expressing negative emotions too often. My frustration is in the lack of desire I'm seeing. We saw this last season, too. It's sad when you see freshman out hustling and outplaying our seniors. Props to Sahara, as well! Jada has really come on strong and it is clear she wants a more prominent role.

We have to stop turning the ball over so freely. Many times the turnovers are self inflicted and not even forced. And getting beat off the first dribble has to be another area of concern. Lastly, free throws. This team, especially, cannot leave points on the table.

Gig'em!! We are here for the long haul. Just praying we see some improvement as the season progresses. I was initially questioning our SEC preseason pick of finishing 11th; now, I can see why. Will the team challenge themselves and beat that expectation?

One more thing, we are the 2nd youngest team in the SEC? Who is the youngest team? I want to watch our matchup with whoever that team is very closely.

Well said. Yes, a lack of desire is never acceptable no matter the skill level. I was wondering the same thing about who has the youngest team. I see Giggity has our answer. Lol
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Not really, there are worse teams in the SEC than Auburn. Every game is representative of where we stand, the idea that you need to see certain matchups to gauge stuff doesn't really register for me. Again they return their two leading scorers and the year's leading scorer in the conference. Not really a good gauge in my eyes.
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Condolences to the Patty family and Aaliyah specifically, she played hard last night and I hope she takes all the time she needs.
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giggitygigem said:

Not really, there are worse teams in the SEC than Auburn. Every game is representative of where we stand, the idea that you need to see certain matchups to gauge stuff doesn't really register for me. Again they return their two leading scorers and the year's leading scorer in the conference. Not really a good gauge in my eyes.

Agree!
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I think for me, more importantly, it is a gauge. Joni has used that stat as a barometer for our season. We have heard we are the second youngest team in the SEC for weeks and weeks now. What exactly does that really mean? Mulkey took a team of all freshmen and sophomores through the big 12 and deep into the ncaa tournament. I understand it's not a direct measure, but what is the point of continuing to state how young we are if it's not an excuse for lack of results? I'm not being salty. Just curious.
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Also - who are the weakest teams in the SEC?
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aggiedrjdub said:

I think for me, more importantly, it is a gauge. Joni has used that stat as a barometer for our season. We have heard we are the second youngest team in the SEC for weeks and weeks now. What exactly does that really mean? Mulkey took a team of all freshmen and sophomores through the big 12 and deep into the ncaa tournament. I understand it's not a direct measure, but what is the point of continuing to state how young we are if it's not an excuse for lack of results? I'm not being salty. Just curious.
I think it's two-fold. 2nd youngest team with a new coach & a new approach of looking at basketball (from what 8 of 12 players were used to). I agree - it's not an excuse, but a reality check on our expectations. I remember going to the Rice game 3 years ago in Houston - we BARELY won that game! It was like Sunday's game - back & forth. And we had Chennedy Carter.
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Very good point.
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I think Joni Taylor was a home run hire, and she will get us turned around and competing for Championships. I'm going to give her and the team some slack to take time to get it done.
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aggiedrjdub said:

I think for me, more importantly, it is a gauge. Joni has used that stat as a barometer for our season. We have heard we are the second youngest team in the SEC for weeks and weeks now. What exactly does that really mean? Mulkey took a team of all freshmen and sophomores through the big 12 and deep into the ncaa tournament. I understand it's not a direct measure, but what is the point of continuing to state how young we are if it's not an excuse for lack of results? I'm not being salty. Just curious.
She also had a hot shot point guard..........our transfer portal guard.......who had an immediate positive impact
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Rudybryan said:

aggiedrjdub said:

I think for me, more importantly, it is a gauge. Joni has used that stat as a barometer for our season. We have heard we are the second youngest team in the SEC for weeks and weeks now. What exactly does that really mean? Mulkey took a team of all freshmen and sophomores through the big 12 and deep into the ncaa tournament. I understand it's not a direct measure, but what is the point of continuing to state how young we are if it's not an excuse for lack of results? I'm not being salty. Just curious.
She also had a hot shot point guard..........our transfer portal guard.......who had an immediate positive impact
AND said point guard had already PLAYED for Mulkey.....
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Was that Odyssey?
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I don't disagree; just discussion points more than anything else.
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I think Joni is going to get us where we need to go. I'm glad she sees potential in our youth movement. I want her to continue to succeed in recruiting and leverage the portal, too.

I'm not discouraged by what I see. But none of you can fire Gary Blair. So quit talking about him. Reminds me of Obama blaming Bush and Biden blaming Trump. Joni is not that kind of person and appreciates she is standing on the shoulder of a giant in the game.
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aggiedrjdub said:

Was that Odyssey?
No, Alexis Morris
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Oh okay. I was referring to about 10 years ago when she had odyssey sims and Britney griner etc
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What year are you referring to? Was it Mulkey's 1st year? No. Was it those sophomores 1st year in the system? No. Was it mostly with a roster of players that Mulkey inherited but didn't recruit herself? No. so it's really not comparable at all is it? I'm also really annoyed at the amount of Kim Mulkey talk on this forum. This ain't LSU or Baylor and it definitely ain't the BIG 12. The landscape of WBB is totally different so let's just give our head coach some time instead of comparing a 7 game sample size to a HOF coach who isn't an Aggie in anyway. #GigEm #BTHOMorganState
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I agree with giggitygigem on this one aggiedrjdub. We are all frustrated because we want to win now but I implore you to go look at the stats and lineups for Baylor for the 2009-2010 season when Brittney was a So. and Odyssey was a Fr. The year before of course Brittney was All-World Big12 with too many accolades to mention. We just can't make that comparison to Texas A&M. Additionally, that was the coach's 10th yr at Baylor and she recruited every player on that team. Be patient and see what happens in the next few years.
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I was both surprised and thrilled that we were able to hire Joni. She's been a favorite of mine for a while.

She's going to BUILD a championship program here, but it won't be done quickly. For a myriad of reasons, our team wasn't up to par last year, and it's the hangover we bring with us into this season. I'm going to enjoy watching the rebuild, watching the system be put into place, watching the younger players gain skills and the older players adapt. I just love the sport. Do I love to win? You betcha. In fact, I have to work at being a gracious loser. But let's not have a meltdown because we're not at the top right now. Enjoy the ride.
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WBBALLFAN84 said:

I agree with giggitygigem on this one aggiedrjdub. We are all frustrated because we want to win now but I implore you to go look at the stats and lineups for Baylor for the 2009-2010 season when Brittney was a So. and Odyssey was a Fr. The year before of course Brittney was All-World Big12 with too many accolades to mention. We just can't make that comparison to Texas A&M. Additionally, that was the coach's 10th yr at Baylor and she recruited every player on that team. Be patient and see what happens in the next few years.

Agree! Apples to oranges. Looking forward to the future of our WBB program!
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Bucketrunner said:

I was both surprised and thrilled that we were able to hire Joni. She's been a favorite of mine for a while.

She's going to BUILD a championship program here, but it won't be done quickly. For a myriad of reasons, our team wasn't up to par last year, and it's the hangover we bring with us into this season. I'm going to enjoy watching the rebuild, watching the system be put into place, watching the younger players gain skills and the older players adapt. I just love the sport. Do I love to win? You betcha. In fact, I have to work at being a gracious loser. But let's not have a meltdown because we're not at the top right now. Enjoy the ride.

Great take! I too have admired Joni from afar and never dreamed she would become our coach one day! One of my first memories of her was when she was on the bench with her Georgia team (not coaching, just there to support) 2 days after giving birth. The TV commentators were amazed. I thought this very classy lady is the real deal. She built a very successful program at Georgia and I believe she will achieve that and more in Aggieland! It's gonna be a fun ride for sure! We have some good young players with more on the way. She's the kind of coach kids want to play for….very demanding but also very caring of them as people. Wouldn't trade her for anyone else! Gig Em!!
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Lol okay

I'm excited about our coach. I think I've made that abundantly clear. This is a forum where we discuss basketball, our basketball team, and their competitors. I am not a fan of Mulkey, but the reality is she is an outstanding coach and I don't think it's unfair to compare. I don't think anything I've said it unfair or out of bounds. Many times I foster conversation and debate when this forum is dead. If you don't like it, move along or don't participate.

Gig'em!
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giggitygigem said:

What year are you referring to? Was it Mulkey's 1st year? No. Was it those sophomores 1st year in the system? No. Was it mostly with a roster of players that Mulkey inherited but didn't recruit herself? No. so it's really not comparable at all is it? I'm also really annoyed at the amount of Kim Mulkey talk on this forum. This ain't LSU or Baylor and it definitely ain't the BIG 12. The landscape of WBB is totally different so let's just give our head coach some time instead of comparing a 7 game sample size to a HOF coach who isn't an Aggie in anyway. #GigEm #BTHOMorganState
Mulkey is a great coach. You're welcome.
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Ok fans back to the original topic. What we know for Sunday's game, Roby is out 2 to 6 weeks with surgery for a lateral meniscus tear, Patty is attending her grandmothers funeral, KK and Janiah are day to day based on Coach Jonie's press conference. Right off the bat we are down 2 post players possibly 4 total players if Janiah and KK can't play. I'm going to be positive. #BTHOMorganState
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WBBALLFAN84 said:

Ok fans back to the original topic. What we know for Sunday's game, Roby is out 2 to 6 weeks with surgery for a lateral meniscus tear, Patty is attending her grandmothers funeral, KK and Janiah are day to day based on Coach Jonie's press conference. Right off the bat we are down 2 post players possibly 4 total players if Janiah and KK can't play. I'm going to be positive. #BTHOMorganState
I think if you find the forming, norming, performing, storming framework helpful then you probably believe we are still forming.

Putting more pressure on a team as if they are further along that framework won't make them be further along. So watch for positives and celebrate them!!!
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WBBALLFAN84 said:

Ok fans back to the original topic. What we know for Sunday's game, Roby is out 2 to 6 weeks with surgery for a lateral meniscus tear, Patty is attending her grandmothers funeral, KK and Janiah are day to day based on Coach Jonie's press conference. Right off the bat we are down 2 post players possibly 4 total players if Janiah and KK can't play. I'm going to be positive. #BTHOMorganState
So, there is a possibility, we will play with 7 players available.

Can Nancy Mulkey play?

Any chance we are in the market for walkons?
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I wonder is we might add any players at mid season. Hilton joined Joni last year at Georgia at this time.
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WBBALLFAN84 said:

Ok fans back to the original topic. What we know for Sunday's game, Roby is out 2 to 6 weeks with surgery for a lateral meniscus tear, Patty is attending her grandmothers funeral, KK and Janiah are day to day based on Coach Jonie's press conference. Right off the bat we are down 2 post players possibly 4 total players if Janiah and KK can't play. I'm going to be positive. #BTHOMorganState


That's a big hit with the injuries and Patty having to be away for personal reasons. Just have to play with whomever is available. Good luck Aggies!
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Oh gosh. Prayers for speedy recoveries for them all. I knew something was up with Roby. I bet she was injured even before she was banged up at the last game.

Need to get this team healthy before the conference games begin.
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MRI shows that Barker does have a fracture......
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Rudybryan said:

MRI shows that Barker does have a fracture......


Darn, that's not good news.
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