Send 30 day notice and move on. No need to deal with the hassle

Have you asked her why it seems to be a sticking point with her?

Should have already sent the notice. Tons of quality tenants out there looking for places and you can probably even raise rent. My property, my rules. Don't like it, too bad.

She is a nudist and hates putting clothes on for your 10 minute inspection

I think if u want a new tenant then continue as you are

If you want her to stay and figure out what works for both of you then you might need to change ur approach.

Not leaving a gift will only make things worse for your time left. I would suggest having a conversation and being genuinely curious on schedules and why it's important for yall to check out the place and why it's important for her to have more of a heads up.

One of the best things I have ever done is rid myself of a similar tenant.

Ain't worth the time or stress.

Tenant sounds annoying.

But every 2-3 months sounds annoying as well

TxAG#2011 said:

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Tenant sounds annoying.

But every 2-3 months sounds annoying as well

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I agree with this.

Also, that's pretty nice about the Christmas gift, but I am not sure I'd like a landlord that just opened the door to drop it in like that. Can just leave it outside, mail it, or drop it off on one of your multiple inspections. People still want to have a feeling of their own space, even if renting.

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Edit to add: Sent a text out to all tenants 24 hours ago that "Santa Schwack" would be leaving something just inside their front doors this morning like we do every year & wouldn't you know it..... her reply: "Please leave it outside". Guess who's not getting a Christmas gift this year.

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Constructive feedback: sometimes you can make a gesture that you think and intend to be very nice, but on the other foot is annoying and can be construed as a little disrespectful.

The inspections if you were upfront about it is one thing… but I'd personally probably be significantly more annoyed than grateful if my landlord just announced a day ahead that they were opening up the front door of my place and leaving me some Christmas cheer. And even if people aren't saying it, I'm sure most would have the same feeling as me. If you want to give gifts, it is a nice gesture, but be respectful, text ahead of time and set up a time to meet with the tenant to give it rather than remind them that somebody else that isn't a family member or loved one has access to their personal space.

I don't live in the US and am renting right now as a result. My landlords are super responsive and seem incredibly nice… they drop a bottle of wine to us around the holidays every year. They call ahead and ask when we would be there so we can exchange pleasantries in person. They never ask to come in and I couldn't imagine them just opening our door and leaving it inside. You do lose a little bit of that 'home' feeling when people who aren't family and friends are in and out of your house when you aren't there similar to when your home is shown when it is on the market… and you are the landlord… you might and probably are a really nice person but you aren't your tenant's friend,

It is your property… but it's their personal space so you should respect that. Last thing is while it wouldn't be my concern personally, a lot of people are still quietly freaked out about Covid be it that is rational or not right now.

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Maybe we need to ask if they want a present or not next year - I would have never dreamed this was such a big deal. Ugh.

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To be clear, I don't think it is a big deal… like I wouldn't move out because of it since I trust my landlords or even complain to my landlords. But if I came home from work to a bottle of wine and Christmas card from them sitting inside my locked home, I'd for sure think it was invasive and presumptuous for them to do ahead of a thinking it was a nice gesture.

To take it a step further to announce gifts for everyone then not drop one because somebody asked you to not come in their home, the presumptuous-ness that I initially thought you were starts to turn into a little distrust of you.

Don't take this all the wrong way please… I just want to make sure you understand the other and fairly valid perspective on this because no tenant is going to tell their landlord this when making this sort of gesture. I know it is weird… but popping into somebody's space like this is kind of disrespectful.

Privacy is dwindling in this world so everybody values it where they can get it. Sounds like you live in a rural setting so I'm sure it is important to you as it is to most who live in small towns. So you need to do all you can to respect it.

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We purposely do not schedule inspections in Nov-Dec to stay out of their way during the holidays.

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Doesn't want to intrude during the holidays but also wants to drop inside the place to drop a gift off. Kind of ironic.

If you need to drop the gift off inside do it in October then when I assume you have the last inspection of the year. Or, spend the money to mail it, drop it outside, or offer for them to pick it up in Nov/Dec.

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schwack schwack said:

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We purposely do not schedule inspections in Nov-Dec to stay out of their way during the holidays.

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Doesn't want to intrude during the holidays but also wants to drop inside the place to drop a gift off. Kind of ironic.

If you need to drop the gift off inside do it in October then when I assume you have the last inspection of the year. Or, spend the money to mail it, drop it outside, or offer for them to pick it up in Nov/Dec.

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This is exactly right. We don't formally inspect… but we inspect with Christmas cheer!

And the second paragraph is how you handle this dilemma if it isn't really just about what seems like an obsession (that also sounds like it is paying off for what it is worth) about keep getting your assets in pristine condition and therefore wanting to see al of them often,

I give up. Merry Christmas y'all.

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schwack schwack said:

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Maybe we need to ask if they want a present or not next year - I would have never dreamed this was such a big deal. Ugh.

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To be clear, I don't think it is a big deal… like I wouldn't move out because of it since I trust my landlords or even complain to my landlords. But if I came home from work to a bottle of wine and Christmas card from them sitting inside my locked home, I'd for sure think it was invasive and presumptuous for them to do ahead of a thinking it was a nice gesture.

To take it a step further to announce gifts for everyone then not drop one because somebody asked you to not come in your home, the presumptuous-ness that I initially thought you were starts to turn into a little distrust of you.

Don't take this all the wrong way please… I just want to make sure you understand the other and fairly valid perspective on this because no tenant is going to tell their landlord this when making this sort of gesture. I know it is weird… but popping into somebody's space like this is kind of disrespectful.

Privacy is dwindling in this world so everybody values it where they can get it. Sounds like you live in a rural setting so I'm sure it is important to you as it is to most who live in small towns. So you need to do all you can to respect it.

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Well said. A landlord sending a email stating that they planned to enter my locked house would be enough to make me want to move out. I don't care if the gift is worth $5k.

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I give up. Merry Christmas y'all.

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Don't give up… you seem like good people. You just seem to have a blind spot that these are all of your houses… but they are your tenant's HOMES based on your responses on this thread. It results in a completely different relationship with the property between you 2. Do your inspections and give your gifts because it sounds like you are a great landlord… but just remember the home angle for your tenants and approach it like you'd like somebody to approach things like this in your own home and be more on the conservative side when it comes to etiquette.

I always enjoy it when someone comes to this site for feedback and then doesn't like what they receive

Sorry, but entering someone's home when they aren't there just to deliver a gift is nice and I'm sure nothing but well intentioned, but it can easily be seen as strange and intrusive. But most folks don't like confrontation and won't complain, so don't take lack of complaints as approval. There should be a legitimate business purpose for a landlord entering, with plenty of notice.

I'd be annoyed if my landlord inspected every 3 months. Including college, i rented for 18ish yrs and never once had an inspection by any landlord. 4x a year? No thanks.

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I'd be annoyed if my landlord inspected every 3 months. Including college, i rented for 18ish yrs and never once had an inspection by any landlord. 4x a year? No thanks.

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I suspect this tenant has a similar history. May have never had an owner do an inspection in their entire rental history, now she's got one coming in every 2-3 months. It's the owners right and I can appreciate them trying to monitor the property's condition, but at the same time, I don't think someone is totally crazy for finding this to be an annoyance. And when some people are annoyed, they can be difficult. Doesn't mean she shouldn't cooperate and she's got to abide by the terms, but I also can't say I'm totally baffled by it

Enough of the bashing the OP they way they want to do business. It's their decision. The fact that this tenant is the complete outlier to their normal business practices is what is an issue. Not their business practices per se. what works in their towns, their tenants works for them except this tenant.

So get rid of the tenant. Get a new one. Move on.

I guarantee some of the other tenants don't like it either but also don't feel in the position to bring it up and want to avoid conflict.

Maybe they just put up with it because OP charges low rent? Who knows.

I agree with what others have said, it's a definite blind spot. I got a kick out of the TexAgs joke. It is true though. People come posting stuff like this here for confirmation bias, then they don't like what people have to offer as constructive criticism and they get standoffish.