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Quick question- house selling negotiation

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Ag Eng 92
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House tax appraisal: 460k (+100 over last year)
List: 460
Offer: 435
Counter: 450
Offer-counter from buyers: 442.5

Come back with 445? Or take 442.5? I'm motivated to get this done. On market since Saturday, but only 3 showings. Lots of online saves (+120). Don't want to chase away, but wouldn't mind $445k minimum to help with our buying power ahead. Offer is very clean.

Thanks for wisdom…
ukbb2003
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Me personally, I'm not letting them walk away over $2,500. You'll lose a quarter of that in interest on another month of mortgage payment.
jopatura
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Tax appraisal isn't the end all be all for value. What do current comps say the value is?

At $2,500 though, I'm likely going to take it, especially if you're in an area where the market is softening. That's close enough they'll beat you up on inspection to get closer to the price they wanted.
Matsui
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take and close it up. you are motivated. they seem motivated. secure and move on.
aston158
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agree with everyone else...take it and move on.
Ag Eng 92
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Thanks, folks. Was leaning to accept, and just told agent that we would. With an apparently softening market, this seems like a win overall, especially with time crunches to get moved out of state.
zagman
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Tax appraisal means literally nothing.
SteveBott
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What he said. And yes if the Preapproval is strong take it.
CS78
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Always try to leave some room for the screwing you'll be expected to take after inspections.
Omperlodge
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I would squeeze them for $500 more. It level sets for the option period negotiation that you may be tough to deal with and they should know that now.
howdyags12!
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Counter back with $445,172 and I'll bet they take it. I'll save you the time, it comes from a book written by Chris Voss "Never Split the Difference"
ATM9000
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It's $2500… I would have asked. If they really want your house (the meet halfway counter makes it seem like they do), incredibly low probability that they just walk and probably better chance than not they just say sure… especially when most it is highly likely like a $15 difference in house payment monthly.
Captain Winky
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Haven't read the book, but isn't that splitting the difference?
SteveBott
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So some think it's OK for a motivated seller who has deadlines for moving should be a dick? Really?

How do you know the buyer does not have a back up house? Do you know if the buyer could get a bad feeling or taste on this deal? Will the buyer be more aggressive in whatever negotiation occurs after inspection? Maybe the counter after inspection is to just walk away? Then what?
CS78
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howdyags12! said:

Counter back with $445,172 and I'll bet they take it. I'll save you the time, it comes from a book written by Chris Voss "Never Split the Difference"
Ive gotten those kinds of offers before. To me, it makes the other party look childish and inexperienced. I just always counter back with a normal round number, and they usually cut it out.
ATM9000
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SteveBott said:

So some think it's OK for a motivated seller who has deadlines for moving should be a dick? Really?

How do you know the buyer does not have a back up house? Do you know if the buyer could get a bad feeling or taste on this deal? Will the buyer be more aggressive in whatever negotiation occurs after inspection? Maybe the counter after inspection is to just walk away? Then what?


Hot take that asking for what you want is being a dick.

On your questions, most people aren't walking over a 0.5% difference on price and how do you know that's not the counter after inspection anyway.

Sorry… just don't think it is bad faith or rude to ask what you want as you've inferred here.
htxag09
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SteveBott said:

So some think it's OK for a motivated seller who has deadlines for moving should be a dick? Really?

How do you know the buyer does not have a back up house? Do you know if the buyer could get a bad feeling or taste on this deal? Will the buyer be more aggressive in whatever negotiation occurs after inspection? Maybe the counter after inspection is to just walk away? Then what?

Literally every poster here has made assumptions. Hard to say anyone is being a dick based on the information given.

Where is the op located? What's the market? How long has the house been on the market?

If the house has been on the market less than a week, definitely not a dick move to counter back. Really, it never is.

People love to break it down as only x% of the sales price, $y a month, etc. But the fact is it's $2500. Probably the easiest negotiation you'll ever have to make/save $2500 if the other party is looking at it that way.
agwalk75
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What about RE agent fee? Does just everyone automatically agree to the 6%, or do you ask they take, say, 4-5%?
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agwalk75 said:

What about RE agent fee? Does just everyone automatically agree to the 6%, or do you ask they take, say, 4-5%?


You can ask for 5% and some will balk but most might do it if you're using them to buy and they can make it up with 3% on the other side. You also have to be mindful that they moght to take the 5% and split it down the middle offering 2.5% commission to buyers agent.

I have a house under contract right with a couple first time home buying and the sellers agent is only offering a 2.5% commission. The house sat on the market (adequately priced) for almost 60 days before we came along and offered - I wonder why?

In my situation above, I told the sellers agent that my clients were expecting to get a 1.5% rebate either through commission or a purchase price reduction. In the end, they got a great home 3.2% below asking in ADDITION to a 1.25% rebate at closing that we are splitting. And the seller probably still doesn't realize how much money that agent cost him.

I still firmly believe it should not cost 6% to sell a home, (at $445K thats $26.7K!) but this is the system we are in. So you as a seller have got to realize how these agents will play and either choose to pay the 6%, go with the 5% agent and make sure they offer 3% to the buyers agent, OR use someone like Red Pear who uses the system against itself for the benefit of its clients.
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