A reporter talking to Brooks made a good point about OWGR but for guys like Taylor Gooch et al it will be hard to qualify for majors in the 1st place without OWGR building up through the year now that they're with LIV.

It's hard to say if LIV should qualify for OWGR points or if thats just LIV players having to take their medicine for playing for that league.

May 8th is the next big date for OWGR.

Any LIV player inside the top100, will likely get an invite to the PGA Championship.

_lefraud_ said:

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What if I told you not one, but two different tours "earned" points this past weekend playing only 54 holes?

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How often do they have 54 hole tournaments? One or two a season or every tournament on their schedule?

Ag_07 said:

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Are they gonna count the PGA events that will be set up like this?

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How often do they have 54 hole tournaments? One or two a season or every tournament on their schedule?

I'm referring to next season when they implement these LIV lite events that will be 54 holes limited field no cuts.

That finish definitely helped Reed. Mickelson and Brooks ar already in the Majors with their PGA and US Open wins.

Somebody better tell Phil he's won a US Open.

_lefraud_ said:

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Somebody better tell Phil he's won a US Open.

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Mickelson PGA and Brooks Us Open.

Yesterday said:

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That finish definitely helped Reed. Mickelson and Brooks ar already in the Majors with their PGA and US Open wins.

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100%

Only Reed benefited gaining spots.

_lefraud_ said:

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Somebody better tell Phil he's won a US Open.

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He's exempt for like 5 years because of the PGA win….knowing how exemptions in majors works is tough, I know.

US Open exemptions:
US Open - 10 years
Masters - 5
PGA - 5
The Open - 5

The other 3 have almost lifetime exemptions if you win.

Phil basically has a lifetime exemption to everything except the US Open. The "lifetime" has turned into age 65, but they mostly stop before then except the masters now.

Phil could get into the US Open by winning the Sr US Open. One might argue that path may be easier than him having to go through US Sectionals.

CapCity12thMan said:

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Phil could get into the US Open by winning the Sr US Open. One might argue that path may be easier than him having to go through US Sectionals.

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He's already in. He's exempt until 2026 I think.

I Am A Critic said:

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watty said:

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The OWGR are such a freaking joke now. Lost all credibility with their refusal to count LIV and their limited field, no cut, 54 hole events.

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FIFY

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This argument won't hold when PGA goes to limited field, no cut tournaments next year.

979ag said:

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I Am A Critic said:

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watty said:

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The OWGR are such a freaking joke now. Lost all credibility with their refusal to count LIV and their limited field, no cut, 54 hole events.

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FIFY

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This argument won't hold when PGA goes to limited field, no cut tournaments next year.

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It already doesn't hold when they have had WGC's for years featuring limited field/no cut events allowing players to earn extra world ranking points....

I think if LIV can get OWGR points it would go a long ways to having both tours coexist and result in an overall better product for both.

You would get a good mix of separate events but a regular splattering of LIV guys playing WGC events, majors, and hopefully at some point in time we eventually we get a LIV v PGA team event.

There's a path to having both tours coexist.

If anything, this week showed how different a 54 vs 72 hole event is if you just looked at the leaderboards at the end of round 3 vs round 4.

They definitely should get OWGR points but it should be weighted less due to that.

I dont follow that argument. please explain

The leaderboard of the Masters or any other event after 72 holes is usually different than it is after 54. Being able to excel for 4 straight days is more challenging than only 3.

I'm in agreement that they should get OWGR points, but it should be weighted because the events they are playing in are only 75% of what the PGA typically plays.

Fairview20 said:

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The leaderboard of the Masters or any other event after 72 holes is usually different than it is after 54. Being able to excel for 4 straight days is more challenging than only 3.

I'm in agreement that they should get OWGR points, but it should be weighted because the events they are playing in are only 75% of what the PGA typically plays.

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one could also argue that having to excel for 3 days days with limited holes could be just as difficult in order to claim victory in a tournament.

It's could definitely be more difficult for players that are consistently better, as they have less holes to work with. A guy could get hot for 2 rounds and hang on to win in round 3. I think the cream rises to the top over the course of the more holes played. Which is what the OWGR system should be ranking.

It's like how a single elimination tournament leads to more upsets vs a 7 game series. The more opportunities the better players/teams have, the more likely they are to beat lesser players/teams.

what does OWGR stand for?

The Tour having no-cut events next year does help LIV's argument for points. But there is a sizable difference. For one, it's looking like the no-cut events will be about 1/3 of the schedule. And you play your way into (or out of) the no-cut events. LIV, not so much. Until there is a way for an up-and-coming golfer to replace, say, James Piot on LIV through nothing more than his play, that's an issue for them getting OWGR points.

Official World Golf Ranking

HeyAbbott said:

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Official World Golf Ranking

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Many thanks, Heyabbott!

979ag said:

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I Am A Critic said:

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watty said:

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The OWGR are such a freaking joke now. Lost all credibility with their refusal to count LIV and their limited field, no cut, 54 hole events.

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FIFY

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This argument won't hold when PGA goes to limited field, no cut tournaments next year.

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There is a way to get into those fields, you qualify your way in. You can't qualify your way into a LIV event.

Does that change what I said though? You can pick and choose any golfer for any tournament to make that argument, but out of the ENTIRE field, the better players will typically rise to the top over the course of more holes played.

This isn't some hot take, it's just how it works in any sport when the better team/player gets more opportunities they are going to start to separate themselves from lesser teams/players.

Ag_07 said:

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I'm referring to next season when they implement these LIV lite events that will be 54 holes limited field no cuts.

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Yeah, I doubt they are doing this without world ranking and their argument will be completely gone once they get them.