I'm a RH golfer and have been working primarily on my swing path (better in to out). When not doing that on the range, I've been playing a local Par 3 to work on my short game. As I've gotten my path figured better, I've started pushing my wedges right. No slice or anything to it. Shot shape and distance are both good. Impact is middle face. Just missing with the dang things right?
Any thoughts on what this could be? Wondering if you just need to aim left with wedges based on where they are in the stance when you get the path right.
Hard to tell without video, but could be a few things.
Some people legitimately open their stance with wedges because they like the feel of the path. You could try it.
You could be lifting hands a little to get in to out path, so you could video yourself and look at your exit position. Club finish feel some people describe as exiting "low and left".
Lots of people play their wedges too far back in the stance. If you have a good low point, you can play the ball a hair up to give the face time to close.
You are describing a push shot. Sounds to me like your grip could be weak or your face on the club is open at impact.
I am a draw player and definitely swing in to out. You could actually try closing your stance which should promote a draw. If your stance is too open, it can promote a fade because you tend to swing down the line on your hips and feet.
Also check your ball position. Make sure you are playing middle of the stance.
If impact is in the middle of the face, spin numbers are on par, and you consistently hit it to the right with proper yardage numbers for your full swing with wedges; maybe video your swing from behind to make sure your shoulders, hips, and feet are all aligned to your target. I have seen golfers feet aligned, but the rest of the body is off. If you are truly aiming square and still hitting right like you say . 1. Just aim left the amount you are hitting right. 2. Check your wedge flex, maybe too stiff? 3. Check lie angle of wedge, maybe too flat? 4. Lots of variables, good golfers realize that you will not be on every day so the easy fix right now is to aim left.
But video and a trained eye will help you find any flaws that you may not feel or see in video recordings that may have crept in over time.
I did recently go through a grip change from overly strong to more neutral. Could be part of it as well. I think I'm going to have to burn a training session on it because it's not the end of the world, but it's adding strokes. Big different sitting 30+ feet from the pin or having to chip because I'm pushing a wedge 7-10 yards right inside of 100.
If impact is in the middle of the face, spin numbers are on par, and you consistently hit it to the right with proper yardage numbers for your full swing with wedges; maybe video your swing from behind to make sure your shoulders, hips, and feet are all aligned to your target. I have seen golfers feet aligned, but the rest of the body is off. If you are truly aiming square and still hitting right like you say . 1. Just aim left the amount you are hitting right. 2. Check your wedge flex, maybe too stiff? 3. Check lie angle of wedge, maybe too flat? 4. Lots of variables, good golfers realize that you will not be on every day so the easy fix right now is to aim left.
But video and a trained eye will help you find any flaws that you may not feel or see in video recordings that may have crept in over time.
This was true for me. I kept pulling my shorter irons/wedges. I figured out that my naturally comfortable stance was slightly open. Now, I focus on aligning my front shoulder with the target and it's helped a lot.
For me, when I block my wedges, it's because I don't complete my rotation through the shot and slide towards the target causing the club to be stuck behind me.
Your path is too far in to out. Has nothing to do with the face if what you're describing is true. If you don't want to fix the path then just focus on releasing the club more, but that will create some hook spin
If you are in the middle of changing swing path, I would consider a lesson with a trackman to see if your path and face angle are solid. Cheaper method, move the ball forward in the stance a little as someone else mentioned.
Your path is too far in to out. Has nothing to do with the face if what you're describing is true. If you don't want to fix the path then just focus on releasing the club more, but that will create some hook spin
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Your path is too far in to out.
Correct. A path that is inside out will push unless the face relative to path is closed, and it will have to be closed even more - relatively speaking - depending on how bad your inside out club path is.
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Has nothing to do with the face
Incorrect. The more you try to go inside out, the more your hands will try and flip the face to square it, or at least get it to the right face to path relationship to hit a small draw...the handsi-ness will leave you inconsistent, likely start hitting the ball on the toe. Also - you don't want "hook spin" with your wedge. you will never hold a green this way.
A wedge should create lots of backspin, not sidespin...so with a wedge you wanna have as neutral a swing path as you can, only altering to hit a slight draw or fade. Side spin should be minimal. To do this, a swing path that is more down the line and a square clubface will maximize all the good, minimize the bad.
Go get on a launch monitor to measure both swing path and face path. This will tell you everything you need to know. I was previously a 4-5* inside out swinger...my miss was a straight push. Have since gotten things into 1-2* range and the ball starts on target better. I have even since been able to swing 1-2* outside in and hit a small fade. game changer.
You're swinging inside out and can't figure out why the ball is going right?
Compared to my irons, yes. I suppose the conventional thought would be one of these:
(1) I do a better job getting through the ball and turning my hands over on irons. Maybe because I'm more aggressive in my iron swing as opposed to my wedges and that's what's doing it. I'm just not closing the face as hard.
(2) The loft on a wedge compared to an iron and resultant flight path doesn't result in the same draw you get with irons.
(3) I genuinely don't know how to set up and aim my wedges.
Might be all three together. Regardless, I have fought so hard to eliminate the over-the-top swing and get a better inside-out movement that I really don't want to introduce that concept back in. I moved it from something like -4 or 5 to +2, so it's not that exaggerated compared to neutral, but it feels crazy exaggerated to me just because of how different it is.
You're swinging inside out and can't figure out why the ball is going right?
Compared to my irons, yes. I suppose the conventional thought would be one of these:
(1) I do a better job getting through the ball and turning my hands over on irons. Maybe because I'm more aggressive in my iron swing as opposed to my wedges and that's what's doing it. I'm just not closing the face as hard.
(2) The loft on a wedge compared to an iron and resultant flight path doesn't result in the same draw you get with irons.
(3) I genuinely don't know how to set up and aim my wedges.
Might be all three together. Regardless, I have fought so hard to eliminate the over-the-top swing and get a better inside-out movement that I really don't want to introduce that concept back in. I moved it from something like -4 or 5 to +2, so it's not that exaggerated compared to neutral, but it feels crazy exaggerated to me just because of how different it is.
Don't you realize that everybody on the internet is a scratch golfer and knows everything about the golf swing?
You're swinging inside out and can't figure out why the ball is going right?
Compared to my irons, yes. I suppose the conventional thought would be one of these:
(1) I do a better job getting through the ball and turning my hands over on irons. Maybe because I'm more aggressive in my iron swing as opposed to my wedges and that's what's doing it. I'm just not closing the face as hard.
(2) The loft on a wedge compared to an iron and resultant flight path doesn't result in the same draw you get with irons.
(3) I genuinely don't know how to set up and aim my wedges.
Might be all three together. Regardless, I have fought so hard to eliminate the over-the-top swing and get a better inside-out movement that I really don't want to introduce that concept back in. I moved it from something like -4 or 5 to +2, so it's not that exaggerated compared to neutral, but it feels crazy exaggerated to me just because of how different it is.
I don't think it's 2. The shorter the club, the easier it is to turn a draw and vice versa with a fade. I can only put the smallest baby fade on a wedge but I can damn sure make one turn hard left.
The shorter the club, the easier it is to turn a draw and vice versa with a fade
the shorter the club, the more backspin it imparts on the ball = less side spin = less draw or fade. It simply not easier to draw or fade shorter clubs. Can you? yes, of course, but you are battling backspin which is why you see shot dispersions with wedge look like the number 8 and shot dispersions with longer clubs looks like an infinity symbol.
I'm not arguing the curve will be more severe with a higher lofted club. I'm saying shorter more lofted clubs are less likely to result in more significant fade (right/push) misses. If anything, the shorter club increases a tendency to draw compared to a fade. Not a comment on severity of curve, just typical direction of curve.
I'm a RH golfer and have been working primarily on my swing path (better in to out). When not doing that on the range, I've been playing a local Par 3 to work on my short game. As I've gotten my path figured better, I've started pushing my wedges right. No slice or anything to it. Shot shape and distance are both good. Impact is middle face. Just missing with the dang things right?
Any thoughts on what this could be? Wondering if you just need to aim left with wedges based on where they are in the stance when you get the path right.
