Buying homes on a golf course

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BoxingAg84
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Does this guy have a right to be angry, or is losing a window part of the risk you take by moving onto a golf course?

DargelSkout
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Part of the risk in my opinion. But I do feel like the golfer should be responsible for paying for the damages.
Corporal Punishment
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I sliced a drive on 3rd hole on the A&M campus course my senior year in '93. I think it's still rolling down George Bish Drive. Good times.
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I think as a home owner you just have to understand it's the risk and sunk cost of living there, but I also think the amount of bros getting drunk and spraying golf balls on a course is an all time high.
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I believe the law states if the home was built after the course - owner's responsibility as they took the known risk. If built before the course, the course is liable. As long as the golfer did it unintentionally they are not responsible in either scenario.

Now maybe the right thing to do is offer to pay, but legally the golfer is not responsible. The angry homeowner can get mad all he wants, but the golfer legally owes him nothing.
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This is like people that move close to a bar/entertainment area and complain about the noise.

If you don't to risk your windows getting broken by stray golf balls, don't live on a golf course.
AustinCountyAg
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this. they make golf ball protectant window screen for a reason.

I get homeowners getting upset about it, but it come with the territory, especially when you buy a house off of a fairway. I mean pro's shank it, slice it, hook it, etc. Terrible shots happen and it's just part of golf. However, if it malicious intent that's another story.
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Corporal Punishment said:

I sliced a drive on 3rd hole on the A&M campus course my senior year in '93. I think it's still rolling down George Bush Drive. Good times.
That was hole 12 when I was there. Was always my greatest fear as a broke college student that I'd slice it right into somebody's windshield.
AustinCountyAg
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I've had the misfortune of hitting a ball into a windshield of a vehicle driving by. The driver was not too thrilled.
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wangus12 said:

Corporal Punishment said:

I sliced a drive on 3rd hole on the A&M campus course my senior year in '93. I think it's still rolling down George Bush Drive. Good times.
That was hole 12 when I was there. Was always my greatest fear as a broke college student that I'd slice it right into somebody's windshield.

I once made a par there. From the field behind the JP's office.
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If I broke a window on a house I would offer to pay for it - my fault. I have friends who have a house on a course. The house has protective screens to guard windows that could be hit. He also has a bucket in his garage full to the top of golf balls he's found in his yard. He picks out the pro V1's for his bag and uses the rest for his son and guests.
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Homeowner is 100% wrong.
RogerFurlong
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I'd pay for a window if I hit it. I wouldn't pay for this guys window. My home course has a bunch of dog legs you can cut over houses and one over a commercial building. I've hit the commercial building windows a few times but haven't broken one yet. I probably wouldn't pay for the commercial building windows. They shouldn't have put windows on that side or the parking lot you have to carry it over either.
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I broke a window two weeks ago. Guy was home and came out. He was super cool about it. I offered to pay for it. Cost me $560 though...
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We lived on a course until last year and didn't have any significant problems. I loved it. But owners living on some of the other holes wanted the course to pay for Top Golf style netting or even remove old historic oak trees to change the line to the green. On one of the holes, the course paid a consultant to relocate a tee box. But the consultant stupidly reoriented it to point more towards the houses on the left side of the fairway. (The right side of the fairway was bordered by OB.) So I think some homeowners are certainly entitled to be mad in cases where the design of "their" hole makes it more likely for their house to get hit.
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my club moved a par three green at the request (and cost) of the neighbor.
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There's no such thing as strict liability in this kind of situation. There would need to be some kind of evidence of recklessness or carelessness. An errant shot in and of itself isn't sufficient evidence to support a negligence finding (i.e., that you did not behave the same as a reasonably prudent person). Trying to hit one straight up the fairway and slicing it into a home? That's one thing. Trying to cut the corner on a dogleg by aiming over a house? That's another.

That, plus the assumption of risk doctrine, is going to protect most golfers. Same way it would protect a hitter in a men's beer league game that fouled a ball into the stands or parking lot.

Some folks have even gone so far as to try and sue courses themselves for their design because there's no real way to get at the golfer, absent evidence that is hard to prove. Most of those cases lost, too.

This is more a question of "What should you do" and not "What must you do" in my opinion (not legal advice). If you break a window, and you are so inclined by your morals and code, by all means, leave a note or business card and offer to pay for the window. Maybe it's an offer to split the cost. They assumed the risk; you hit a bad shot. Or maybe it's to keep moving and not address it. Either way, it's not going to come down to the courts telling you that you have to pay.

As far as the guy in the clip, he should at least get to tell the guy that the shot was garbage and that he's pissed, unless he's trespassing on the course. Ultimately, he's probably going to have to eat a **** sandwich on the cost of the window unless the golfer steps up on his own accord.

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You don't owe them squat unless you were being particularly reckless. But a bad golf shot is not negligence. If I ever break one and get confronted, I'll probably offer a token sum $50-100, but it's going to be a one time take it or leave it offer.
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Live on a course now. Have only had one broken window in 8 years, but completely understand that it's part of the risk/reward of being here.

Our house is set back in the lot so we aren't super exposed to a lot hitting our windows, but we get a lot of errant balls in the yard. we've been sitting outside and had balls scream by us or bounce into the pool while we're out there. 100% of the time i usually crack a joke when they come by and pick up their ball and give it back with a big smile.. Nobody ever intentionally aims at houses, no reason to get mad
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DargelSkout said:

Part of the risk in my opinion. But I do feel like the golfer should be responsible for paying for the damages.
Disagree. It is assumed risk unless you do it on purpose.
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I'm willing to pay for it and be extremely apologetic. But if I'm apologetic and you're a dick… good luck.
bagger05
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Thankfully I've never broken a window. But I've always felt like what I'd do would depend on how the homeowner reacts. If he was cool about it, I'd probably offer to pay. Someone being a jackass, much more likely to tell them to piss off.
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DannyDuberstein said:

You don't owe them squat unless you were being particularly reckless. But a bad golf shot is not negligence. If I ever break one and get confronted, I'll probably offer a token sum $50-100, but it's going to be a one time take it or leave it offer.
You're nicer than me. I wouldn't pay at all.

Don't want broken windows? Don't buy a house on a golf course.
Kansas Kid
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Jawn Dough said:

DannyDuberstein said:

You don't owe them squat unless you were being particularly reckless. But a bad golf shot is not negligence. If I ever break one and get confronted, I'll probably offer a token sum $50-100, but it's going to be a one time take it or leave it offer.
You're nicer than me. I wouldn't pay at all.

Don't want broken windows? Don't buy a house on a golf course.
I would pay since I caused the damage. Don't want to break a window, don't play on a course with houses surrounding it.

On the other hand, the owner of the house shouldn't be upset like the idiot in the video. What did he expect when he bought the house especially if he is on the right side of the fairway.
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stallion6 said:

DargelSkout said:

Part of the risk in my opinion. But I do feel like the golfer should be responsible for paying for the damages.
Disagree. It is assumed risk unless you do it on purpose.

I see it both ways and can understand your position. But what it boils down to me is my ball left the property and damaged someone else's property. I would feel the same if I hit a car window that was driving by. Would you say that person knew the risks because they drove by a golf course?

I just feel like it's my responsibility to keep my golf ball on the golf course property.

This homeowner in the video is a complete jackass and handled it poorly.
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If you want to pay what you don't owe, have at it. But living on a golf course is like just about anything else in life - the good comes with the bad. Willing to offer a token make nice if approached nicely, but not paying for someone's $500 window overlooking a golf course
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Don't live there
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He's ready for The Masters! Getting some swing training in on that tire! Getting angry and yelling at things beyond his control. I am sure his nice gestures will encourage those in the cart to pay up the $681 dollars. I would love to have seen the next guy off the tee with that angry guy holding that 9i ready to take his kneecaps off! FORE! RIGHT!
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AustinCountyAg said:

I've had the misfortune of hitting a ball into a windshield of a vehicle driving by. The driver was not too thrilled.
Man, when I worked at Bryan Muni that was one of the worst parts about the job. PO'ed driver coming up to the front desk and wanting the course to pay for their windshield. I would just tell them to get into a cart and take it up with the person that broke the windshield. #10 was hell on car windshields. I hit a few into the road there also, but thankfully never hit a car.

Did see a dude die in a car wreck there one time while teeing off. Interesting college job at old Muni!
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It's definitely the old coots responsibility as he accepts the risk of living on the course.
And apparently it's happened before because he knew the exact price of that window!
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I'd say its part of the risk, but I'm not an angry, old a__hole.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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I live on a golf course. Largely protected by large oak trees. My windows have taken direct hits but have never broken. Almost got hit mowing my lawn. Picked up the ball and told him to be careful.

I have also had golfers come into my yard to retrieve balls. That hacks me off more.
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Yeah, never enter someone's property to get a ball. Totally out of line. I don't carry a ball retriever, but I think using one to reach far into someone's property to grab a ball is even kind of over the line. If my ball (and it has to be my ball) is within arm's reach from the course side of the fence, I'll grab it. Otherwise, it's sacrificed as a ball I shouldn't have hit so poorly. But still not paying to replace a window other than the token peace offering contribution to someone who approaches me reasonably
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carl spacklers hat said:

I'd say its part of the risk, but I'm not an angry, old a__hole.

Hilarious
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If anyone wants to buy a lot on a private golf course in Mandeville, La. , let me know. The house that was there never was hit by a golf ball.
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