Heading to Scotland tomorrow

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TXAGGIES
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8:36p, 5/4/25
Just got back from a week long trip to Korea and now I turn right around for 6 rounds at St Andrews.


We are staying at the old course hotel. Any to dos in that area?
Wish me luck.
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In reply to TXAGGIES • 8:49p, 5/4/25
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The Dunvegan of course.
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In reply to bagger05 • 8:55p, 5/4/25
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The Dunvegan of course.

I knew that one. It's no longer owned by Ags correct?
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In reply to TXAGGIES • 8:59p, 5/4/25
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I believe they sold it, yes.
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9:24p, 5/4/25
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6:07a, 5/5/25
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Rusack's patio overlooking 18.
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9:16a, 5/5/25
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Non golf related, check out the castle ruins and cathedral at the end of town. Old Tom Morris headstone is there, so I guess that's kinda golf related.
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In reply to TXAGGIES • 11:30a, 5/5/25
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Which courses are you playing the 6 rounds on?
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In reply to TXAGGIES • 11:32a, 5/5/25
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TXAGGIES said:
bagger05 said:
The Dunvegan of course.

I knew that one. It's no longer owned by Ags correct?
I think they might own a small piece, but Sheena still seems to be involved.

My daughter went to the University there. Roam the three main streets (North, Market, and South), hit up the locals pubs. If the weather is nice, head to The Steak Barn at Balgove Larder.

For sure go see the castle and cathedral ruins and find the graves of Old Tom Morris and Young Tom Morris

On May 10th they are having a Ceilidh at Forgan's. Would be fun to attend and watch or even participate.
Also, the old pier has now reopened - always was a tradition to walk out. The students have a really cool processional once a year in their red robes

What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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11:52a, 5/5/25
Currently scheduled to visit Faulkland Palace and a Tour of East Nuke of Fife
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8:25p, 5/11/25
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You need to play KingsBarns Golf Links! Dont forget a late night Bourbon in the Bar at the Old Course Hotel. Great view.
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4:08p, 5/12/25
Ok. Here is my recap of a great trip.

Day 1 - Landed in EDI at 10:00 and traveled to Old Course Hotel. Woke up every day to a sun rise over 1/18.
We were supposed to play The Duke's Course, we got there and it was a **** hole, Went to the Crail instead and had a blast there.

Day 2 - Dumbarnie Links - This course is underrated in my opinion. It opened in 2020ish, but had a greens issue and had to close for about a year, then opened up again just as covid started. Great views and designed to feel like you are the only golfers on the course.

Day 3 - Kingsbarns - I had tons of recommendations to play this, but I liked Dumbarnie Links better. Rates were comparable. Kingsbarns had more holes on the water while Dumbarnie was set back a bit and had more elevation changes.

Day 4 - The Old Course - I might get ripped for this, but with temperatures in the 60's and no wind, this course is EASY! Now, it was great remembering historic shots and the history of the course, but you are squeezed in and constantly were dodging golf balls from hack's behind us or on the New Course. While talking to the caddies, they hoped they would raise the rates as the quality of golfer they have on that course is ridiculous. 17 and 18 were a blast, but besides 1, 17, 18 it played like a pitch and putt.

Day 5 - Gleneagles (King's Course) - Another great time, much more challenging than The Old Course. We stayed on property and that hotel is top notch, heated bathroom floor tiles, towel bar warmers, white glove service everywhere.

Day 6 - No golf, toured Sterling Castle and the town of Sterling. Had a private dinner inside the castle and a band of bag pipers playing music as we left.

Day 7 - Departed

We stayed in Saint Andrews for 4 nights and Gleneagles for 2 nights. If I planned it again, I think I would split it 3 days at each and not play the Crail, but instead play the PGA Centenary course at Gleneagles.

If you have any questions about St Andrews, let me know.
Also, allergies are bad there this time of year and I had to go to a pharmacy to get Zyrtec to survive.

PS: Ensure you listen carefully when your caddie tells you a distance, 150 sound just like 130 and you end up 20 yards over the green
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4:26p, 5/12/25
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Man, I disagree so much with trying to make the Old Course more exclusive and expensive. I thought one of the coolest things was that any golfer from around the world can come and play the most famous course for an expensive, but reasonable price if they can win the daily draw (which I was lucky enough to do). I see no good reason to make it a $800-1000 round like some of the top US courses.
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4:32p, 5/12/25
They were suggesting closer to what Kingsbarns or Dumbarnie charge. Rumor is Kingsbarns is going to 600-700 pounds soon, while the Old Course is around 350.
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5:10p, 5/12/25
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But anyways, sorry for the misdirection. Glad that you had a great trip! I got to experience it last year and can't wait to get back someday.
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In reply to TXAGGIES • 5:17p, 5/12/25
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I loved Dumbarnie too and would play it again over Kingsbarnes.
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5:50p, 5/12/25
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Favorite pubs and restaurants in StA?
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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In reply to MAROON • 7:12p, 5/12/25
MAROON said:
Favorite pubs and restaurants in StA?


We spent most nights at the Jigger Inn and Rooftop bar at the Old Course of course we hit Dunvegan (aka US Embassy as the locals call it).

Dinners we had were at The Bothay, Seafood Riistorante, and The Steak Barn just down the street from the hotel.
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9:18p, 5/12/25
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We just got our itinerary back from booking service that we will be locking in this week I think for August 2027.

North Berwick
Muirfield (full day with lunch and alt shot)
Kingsbarns
Elie
Old Course
New Course

We'll probably work in another round on our own to make one of those days 36. Crail or one of the other St. Andrews courses.

Also going to Turnberry either before or after because my tee time that I was supposed to have this month was cancelled due to the valdalism. They said they'd honor my current 2025 rate when I can make it back.

Now I get to spent 2 years being excited.
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In reply to The Milkman • 6:20a, 5/13/25
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The Milkman said:
We just got our itinerary back from booking service that we will be locking in this week I think for August 2027.

North Berwick
Muirfield (full day with lunch and alt shot)
Kingsbarns
Elie
Old Course
New Course

We'll probably work in another round on our own to make one of those days 36. Crail or one of the other St. Andrews courses.

Also going to Turnberry either before or after because my tee time that I was supposed to have this month was cancelled due to the valdalism. They said they'd honor my current 2025 rate when I can make it back.

Now I get to spent 2 years being excited.



Hello friend……, where do I send my deposit??
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In reply to AgOutsideAustin • 7:18a, 5/13/25
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Based on our schedules I just assumed you were probably going to be there the same time +- a week
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7:39a, 5/13/25
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Question. When do y'all usually start your second round in the afternoon when over there? I have a free day in Ireland in July so I'm planning on playing 2 rounds. I know the sun usually is up late that far north so I figured I could start the second round relatively late in the afternoon and still be fine with daylight
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7:55a, 5/13/25
Players were teeing off at 6:00pm and finishing 18. Sunset was around 9:15 but never got super dark.
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You'll have plenty of time to finish, but also keep in mind alot of restaurants in those small towns close early. So there may be pretty limited dinner options after.
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In reply to The Milkman • 9:39a, 5/13/25
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The Milkman said:
We just got our itinerary back from booking service that we will be locking in this week I think for August 2027.

North Berwick
Muirfield (full day with lunch and alt shot)
Kingsbarns
Elie
Old Course
New Course

We'll probably work in another round on our own to make one of those days 36. Crail or one of the other St. Andrews courses.

Also going to Turnberry either before or after because my tee time that I was supposed to have this month was cancelled due to the valdalism. They said they'd honor my current 2025 rate when I can make it back.

Now I get to spent 2 years being excited.
What booking service are you using? I want to do something like this in 2031.
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10:35a, 5/13/25
Here is who we used, I am sure it wasn't cheap.
https://www.theexperiencegolf.com/uk/golf-experiences/5-night-st-andrews-tour/
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In reply to William Larue Weller • 2:04p, 5/13/25
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We're using Pioneer. There are a handful of them, but Pioneer was the most responsive and easiest to work with for us.

Also, I appreciated that our quote was a guaranteed price for 2027. The others all have a caveat that it was based on todays pricing and was subject to increase (which is most certainly will).
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2:22p, 5/13/25
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The Dunvegan remains 10% Aggie owned. Sheena is in St Andrews now, in & out of the Dunvegan most evenings. Pop in & let the bartender know you are Aggies & he will track her down. She would love to meet any & all Ags who are in St Andrews, share a story, & play the Aggie War Hymm.



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In reply to The Milkman • 2:43p, 5/13/25
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The Milkman said:
Based on our schedules I just assumed you were probably going to be there the same time +- a week


lol not this time but I will be in Edinburgh, St. Andrews, and London soon with the wife. That way I get clearance for future golf trips over there if I take her first. Strategery …..
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In reply to The Milkman • 4:06p, 5/13/25
The Milkman said:
We're using Pioneer. There are a handful of them, but Pioneer was the most responsive and easiest to work with for us.

Also, I appreciated that our quote was a guaranteed price for 2027. The others all have a caveat that it was based on todays pricing and was subject to increase (which is most certainly will).
Used Pioneer when we went. They were awesome. Will use again.
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In reply to AgOutsideAustin • 9:32a, 5/14/25
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AgOutsideAustin said:
The Milkman said:
Based on our schedules I just assumed you were probably going to be there the same time +- a week


lol not this time but I will be in Edinburgh, St. Andrews, and London soon with the wife. That way I get clearance for future golf trips over there if I take her first. Strategery …..
Ha I'm headed to Edinburgh and London with the wife next week
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9:44a, 5/14/25
FYI, Heathrow is a joke of an airport.
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In reply to boxcar • 10:11a, 5/14/25
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I met her there last January
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In reply to BigHitterDaLama • 10:32a, 5/14/25
BigHitterDaLama said:
The Milkman said:
We're using Pioneer. There are a handful of them, but Pioneer was the most responsive and easiest to work with for us.

Also, I appreciated that our quote was a guaranteed price for 2027. The others all have a caveat that it was based on todays pricing and was subject to increase (which is most certainly will).
Used Pioneer when we went. They were awesome. Will use again.
Just booked the phone call with them, we want to go in 26
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In reply to The Milkman • 2:14p, 5/14/25
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The Milkman said:
AgOutsideAustin said:
The Milkman said:
Based on our schedules I just assumed you were probably going to be there the same time +- a week


lol not this time but I will be in Edinburgh, St. Andrews, and London soon with the wife. That way I get clearance for future golf trips over there if I take her first. Strategery …..
Ha I'm headed to Edinburgh and London with the wife next week


We leave the 27th! Edinburgh first. This is ridiculous lol, go ahead and just put me down for the golf trip already.
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