LIV Dallas

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Anyone heading out there this weekend? How was it last year and what tips would you have to see plenty of golf?
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Forget the golf, follow Mrs. DJ around.
Bocephus
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Are they having trouble attracting a crowd? Keep seeing ads offering free tickets
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HeyAbbott
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And temperatures in the 100 degree heat index this weekend.
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Quite literally they have the whole world to choose from and they pick Dallas in the middle of summer. At least they get to wear short pants. Hope the DJ doesn't overheat spinning those jams.
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https://texags.com/forums/60/topics/3490978

Some info in the thread from last year.

Long story short: hot, good access to watching golf, interesting vibes with loud music, cool but not very scenic course. potentially long uber waits. More party than serious golf. With shotgun start it feels like it wraps up pretty quick.
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Great info!
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I work with 2 of the teams and have been to multiple events.

They are fun. Louder than any PGA event in a good way. Interactions with the players and crowd is fun. More of an event vs a straight tourney. Kid friendly. The shotgun start is a fantastic addition.

Maridoe has very few trees. Great course and fun to walk. Take the shuttle from the football stadium they use for parking. It will be hot.

Maridoe was their highest attended US tourney last year. Have fun and enjoy but hydrate. I saw quite a few people carted off in houston and dallas last year.
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You can also get in for free if you bring a dozen golf balls to donate to Bunkers in Baghdad on behalf of the HyFlyers.
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LIV Dallas is almost at capacity on Saturday (14k) and Friday and Sunday are looking like 8k so far.
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Got a chance for IronHeads to finish in top half this week. Sometimes it takes a while to build a giant.
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tricker10 said:

LIV Dallas is almost at capacity on Saturday (14k) and Friday and Sunday are looking like 8k so far.
That's good that attendance is looking decent. Was a little worried a few weeks back my social media feed and emails were flooded with "buy 1 get 1 free" promos for the event.

Last week I actually had a LIV employee cold call me and it was essentially "hey we saw you came last year but aren't on the list this year, please call us back so we can see what we can do to get you back out".

Not saying anything's wrong with either of those 2 things but you usually don't do either let alone both of those if attendance is good.
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560ti said:

tricker10 said:

LIV Dallas is almost at capacity on Saturday (14k) and Friday and Sunday are looking like 8k so far.
That's good that attendance is looking decent. Was a little worried a few weeks back my social media feed and emails were flooded with "buy 1 get 1 free" promos for the event.

Last week I actually had a LIV employee cold call me and it was essentially "hey we saw you came last year but aren't on the list this year, please call us back so we can see what we can do to get you back out".

Not saying anything's wrong with either of those 2 things but you usually don't do either let alone both of those if attendance is good.


Saturday is sold out. Sunday is close now.

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Watching. It's decent production. They do have a lot of excellent names. Wish format was a bit different
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Did anyone on here almost get killed by koepka?
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That TV broadcast is absolutely abysmal. Makes you appreciate the Tour presentation a little more.

In my humble opinion.
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98Ag99Grad said:

Did anyone on here almost get killed by koepka?
The last guy most of us would want to follow.
Bunk Moreland
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grego said:

That TV broadcast is absolutely abysmal. Makes you appreciate the Tour presentation a little more.

In my humble opinion.



They have elements that are good (camera angles and how they show the course specifically) and much better than the PGAT and other elements that are so bad and not winners at all. A blend of the positives between both presentations is what's needed.

Sometimes it annoys me that the leaderboard has already updated the player's score before we see the putt or shot that led to it.

On the other end...

I don't need long drawn out narratives about no names on top of a leaderboard or random side stories during Tour broadcasts to just suck up time and collect 10 different shots that can then be spit out well after they happened.

Right now I'm watching both and switching audio back and forth. The PGAT coverage makes me want to go to sleep.
TXAGGIES
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The players mic's are so much better on LIV. These guys sound like me on the course.
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Such a great weekend. Great golf played on Sunday. Crowds were amazing. My teams and LIV staff I work with were happy with the event and turnout in spite of the heat.

4 man playoff was awesome.

New US attendance record. Happy to see the LIV product growing.
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Bunk Moreland said:

grego said:

That TV broadcast is absolutely abysmal. Makes you appreciate the Tour presentation a little more.

In my humble opinion.



They have elements that are good (camera angles and how they show the course specifically) and much better than the PGAT and other elements that are so bad and not winners at all. A blend of the positives between both presentations is what's needed.

Sometimes it annoys me that the leaderboard has already updated the player's score before we see the putt or shot that led to it.

On the other end...

I don't need long drawn out narratives about no names on top of a leaderboard or random side stories during Tour broadcasts to just suck up time and collect 10 different shots that can then be spit out well after they happened.

Right now I'm watching both and switching audio back and forth. The PGAT coverage makes me want to go to sleep.
See and at least 50% of the time I'm watching golf with no sound. Unless it's the back 9 of a major, I'm not going to notice differences in the broadcast.
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With an average of 2.79 million viewers in the final round, it was the most-watched Rocket Classic since 2020, when Bryson DeChambeau won. Coverage this year peaked at 5.13 million, likely during the sudden-death playoff.
Golf on CBS is averaging its highest viewership since 2018 and is up 13% from last season.
Last week's Travelers Championship pulled in 3.51 million viewers on Sunday, making it the third highest rating of the year for a non-major, behind the RBC Heritage and Players Championship.
The Rocket Classic went up against LIV Dallas on FS2, which saw Patrick Reed claim his first victory on the circuit. According to the Sports Business Journal, the final round had an average of 75,000 viewers; though when it was on Fox during the first two rounds, Friday pulled in 333,000 people and Saturday had 263,000.
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HeyAbbott said:

With an average of 2.79 million viewers in the final round, it was the most-watched Rocket Classic since 2020, when Bryson DeChambeau won. Coverage this year peaked at 5.13 million, likely during the sudden-death playoff.
Golf on CBS is averaging its highest viewership since 2018 and is up 13% from last season.
Last week's Travelers Championship pulled in 3.51 million viewers on Sunday, making it the third highest rating of the year for a non-major, behind the RBC Heritage and Players Championship.
The Rocket Classic went up against LIV Dallas on FS2, which saw Patrick Reed claim his first victory on the circuit. According to the Sports Business Journal, the final round had an average of 75,000 viewers; though when it was on Fox during the first two rounds, Friday pulled in 333,000 people and Saturday had 263,000.


OK. Doesn't refute anything I said at all. My figures are all accurate and the LIV brand is indeed growing in attendance. And that's what I said.
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Interesting that LIV is dropping from 6 US events this year down to 5 next year. Embracing the international angle more, swapping out Miami for South Africa. They'll go to New Orleans instead of Dallas. Fox ratings were 333k on Friday (fox), 260k Saturday (fox), and 75k Sunday (fs2)


grego
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Obviously the money isn't an issue but wondering if even the saudis will realize at some point this is a failure and pull the plug.

Or the players once their OWGR falls enough and exemptions run out and they aren't playing majors anymore.

snowaggie
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Does anyone know what determines whether a local Fox affiliate will show it? Because the last two times I've seen it appear on my on-screen "guide", when I tune in it's been an infomercial.
Bunk Moreland
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It's going to be interesting. They just signed Ronaldo to an insane extension so I'd guess they're still all in on all sports they want to be. But this will be a very curious 12 months with a lot of contracts coming up and the apparent disinterest from SA to do huge up front contracts again
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Yep, will be interesting to see both the Saudi and player decisions as these initial contracts come up. And there's 2 sides to the coin - (1) what Saudi is willing to do and (2) do some of these guys feel content they cashed in 9 figures and now want to go back to the Tour and focus on majors and legacy (while still being able to cash healthy checks, just not Saudi level healthy).

In the US at least, this has firmly landed as exhibition golf. Few are watching, and those that are attending/watching are more from the change-of-pace and curiosity factor. The results are secondary; it's interesting that day but no one really cares who is racking up wins.

I think Saudi leans into the international aspect as these deals come up. They could have done that for a lot cheaper if that was the strategy from the outset, but I think that's where it's headed - a mostly international field and schedule (even moreso than now)
tricker10
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yep, will be interesting to see both the Saudi and player decisions as these initial contracts come up. And there's 2 sides to the coin - (1) what Saudi is willing to do and (2) do some of these guys feel content they cashed in 9 figures and now want to go back to the Tour and focus on majors and legacy (while still being able to cash healthy checks, just not Saudi level healthy).

In the US at least, this has firmly landed as exhibition golf. Few are watching, and those that are attending/watching are more from the change-of-pace and curiosity factor. The results are secondary; it's interesting that day but no one really cares who is racking up wins.

I think Saudi leans into the international aspect as these deals come up. They could have done that for a lot cheaper if that was the strategy from the outset, but I think that's where it's headed - a mostly international field and schedule (even moreso than now)


No doubt the appeal is much larger overseas. I think Adelaide had 250k in attendance. But overall it is growing everywhere this year.
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