Building a deck over fill

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Ryan the Temp
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BACKGROUND:
One of the big parts of my cabin project is to construct two decks - one on each side of the cabin. Because it sits on a slope, I plan to level out one area for parking and remove some soil behind the building so the deck is not sitting on the ground and I can redirect sheet flow around the building instead of under it.

The soil that gets removed will be placed in front of the cabin with a stone wall around it, but some of that fill is going to be where the front deck is going to be built. This fill is likely to be hand-tamped, so there is some concern about settling or movement if I place the deck footers on that soil.

THE IDEA:
Since I cannot pour concrete footings, I am thinking about placing sonotubes on the native soil that are cut to the level of fill and packing them with crushed stone, then tamping the fill around the tubes as hard as possible. Alternatively, I could place concrete block on the native soil up to a level even or above the level of fill.

Any thoughts on these ideas? Any better or more effective ways to approach it?
Leggo My Elko
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Why can't you pour footings?
Leggo My Elko
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Never used them but maybe a footing screw?
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pylex-50-in-Adjustable-Foundation-Screw-10555/308949220

barnacle bob
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I admire your ambition on this one!

How big of a deck are you talking? The grade of that site is a challenge, and the existing blocks for the cabin look like they need attention. The back being so close to ground would be a concern for me.

I would spend the effort and get your foundation sound and try and raise the structure an extra block height or so. Then set blocks for deck foundation and build "floating deck" that can be adjusted independently of cabin as they settle. Raising the cabin would allow you to get ground clearance and avoid a lot of (I'm assuming manual) re-grading.

The only reason I would consider lifting is, the cabin seems light and there is no sewage I can see , just electrical.




Ryan the Temp
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barnacle bob said:

I admire your ambition on this one!

How big of a deck are you talking? The grade of that site is a challenge, and the existing blocks for the cabin look like they need attention. The back being so close to ground would be a concern for me.

I would spend the effort and get your foundation sound and try and raise the structure an extra block height or so. Then set blocks for deck foundation and build "floating deck" that can be adjusted independently of cabin as they settle. Raising the cabin would allow you to get ground clearance and avoid a lot of (I'm assuming manual) re-grading.

The only reason I would consider lifting is, the cabin seems light and there is no sewage I can see , just electrical.
I'm thinking about going up another block because the back corner was below grade due to runoff over the years. It needs leveled anyway, and I'd like to straighten up that front left stack of blocks. I'll be adding a sink inside to the side with a drain running the length of the building, but the plan is to keep everything above the bottom of the skids.

ETA: 4' x 16' in front and 5' x 16' in the back.
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