Asbestos/Lead Paint - precautions?

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Doing some renovations on a home from 1976 that will require drywall to be removed. How concerned should I be about the possibility of asbestos being disturbed?

I imagine most people are not taking precautions unless there is visible asbestos material but I've read that drywall material/compound may contain it - is this accurate?
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I don't know about the drywall. I do know that a bunch of the old linoleum floors had asbestos in them, so be careful if you have to cut any of that out.
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Asbestos wall tiles (exterior) were pretty much out of style by the 1960s. I'm not sure when it quit being used in certain floor tiles. 1976 would be late in the game for lead paint though. Just don't do a lot of sanding of the old paint though, ripping it out should be fine..

I've never heard of asbestos in drywall.
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There could be asbestos in the drywall and not uncommon to find it in the joint compound used in 1976. It's best to have a qualified inspector test a few areas and make sure. The testing is not expensive but, if it's positive, the removal cost can add up.
I know it's not the best news for you but asbestos exposure is very serious.
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Lots of drywall compound had it in it around that time.

Getting samples collected and tested from a reputable lab will cost you about 1-2k.

Give you an indication of your next steps.

For yourself, you can do your own demo just need the proper PPE.
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Only way t know in construction materials before 1981 is to remove a sample and have it tested.

Before then it was reasonably common in drywall, tile, ceiling panels, wall texture, spackle, etc. it requires fairly careful remediation if present to minimize the dust and disturbance and you will have to have proper protection and disposal as it really can be damaging to your long term health with too much exposure.

I have to take training on this at work periodically.

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'm familiar with working with lead, much less so for asbestos. I did get my lead safe certification this year at the individual employee level, so I can run a lead site but am not certified to own the lead program or most importantly do any sort of legally mandated abatement work. This is from the MA state course and some refs vary a bit state to state but this should be a good starting point:

For lead, we're taught if the house is older than 1978, operate under the assumption you're dealing with lead paint. That was when the big lead paint law drew the line in the sand.

Working with any hazardous construction material, the danger from least to most goes: flakes, dust, vapor. If you're cutting out a whole wall of drywall, your sawzall will create the dust. Not a ton, but as a precaution, you can spray the wall ahead of your cut. The wet dust won't suspend in the air floating and being a hazard.

For PPE, the bare minimum is respirator, safety glasses, and covering any open cuts. I'd recommend a tyvek suit, but if you can't/wont buy one, just make sure you wash your clothes by themselves as soon as you're done.

Put plastic sheeting out on the floor 3' from where you'll be disturbing the hazard. For a whole wall, I'd probably just sheet the whole floor. Also hang 2 sheets of plastic from the door jamb to make a little curtain to discourage airflow between clean and dirty spaces. Make absolutely certain any vent is well covered.

For cleanup, wrap up all the sheeting in a tamale looking blob and duct tape around the middle. This can go in the regular garbage. Swifter wet wipes work well, wipe down surfaces until you're not getting a dirty pad. There's a specific spec, I think I remember it being 10x10 that has to get 2 passes without discoloration.

If you're in a place by yourself that should be more than enough. If there are kids living in the space, so more anal on the cleanup, as their brains are more at risk.
Who?mikejones!
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1978 was when asbestos was taken out of sheetrock mud, iirc.

But, anything before 1980 I assume will have asbestos in the mud. Not the sheets so much, but definitely the mud.

I would vary my concerns depending on what your doing. If you are scraping the popcorn, for example, I wouldn't be that concerned if you wet everything down first.

Obviously, cutting the sheetrock and creating a bunch of dust might be a problem.

If you're taking up anything with glue, I'd be concerned.
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