dubi said:
SnowboardAg said:
I mean this sincerely, but a 2012 cost can easily be increased by 200% today. My pocketbook wishes it was otherwise.
I agree! However that are lots of "design" centers and cabinet makers that make big bucks.
You can make big bucks in cabinetry. But it is not everyone. Custom cabinet makers do not make big bucks. Just because their prices seem high in comparison to IKEA or HD/Lowe's, they spend enormous amounts of money on their shops, insurance, employees, not to mention materials are crazy high. Most kitchens I work on, my materials; plywood, hardwood, slides, organizers may be 30% of the project. Plus, because it is custom, the standards are higher, not every time, but some customers and/or architects and designers can suck time out of you beyond description. I have on a few occasions, spent hundreds of hours that I did not expect (could be over the course of 6 months) on a larger project; doing samples, drawings, mock-ups, addressing changes because people can't make up their minds, etc. Sometimes there is no way to see before you submit a price, how high-maintenance a customer or design team may be? I also have had customers, after the cabinet installation, want to change the color. And not pay for it because they feel they are already spending a lot of money. It can get very dicey when dealing with high dollars being spent on cabinetry.
But to your point, I have seen design centers and/or GC's make a lot of money. Mostly when they are doing very little work, but will mark the cabinetry up 100% or more. Frequently that is when the cabinets are fairly cheap; chinese made, very low quality, or other. A GC that is fair will mark custom cabinets up maybe 10-15% or so, but the custom cabinets are far more expensive, he is still making $10k. I have also seen GC's mark the cabinets up, want a kick back, then the designers want a kickback, it can make custom cabinets look very expensive. But it's not the cabinet makers always making the money.