Bergdahl

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Rabid Cougar
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He is hailed a hero yet a soldier that grew up next door to my parents in Cameron was killed while out looking for him when he deserted his post. 2nd Lt. Darryn Andrews.

KIA September 4, 2009
Operation Enduring Freedom
Assigned to 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, Fort Richardson, Alaska

Killed in Yahya Khail District, Afghanistan, when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device and rocket-propelled grenade.

Duty to country was a long-standing value in Darryn Andrews’ life. Growing up he learned patriotism from his family, including a father and uncle who had served in the Air Force, as well as his grandfather who had been an Army P.O.W. during WWII. He had wanted to be a soldier since the age of 14. Early on he attempted the Marines’ Officer Candidate School but was injured and sent home. He then tried working in the business world, as well as coaching and teaching, but after 9/11 he decided to enlist in the Army. “He just came home one weekend and told me that’s what he was going to do,” his mother said.

After returning from his first tour in Afghanistan, Darryn learned of the Army Green to Gold Program, which gives enlisted soldiers the opportunity to earn a commission as an Officer. He was accepted into the program, obtained his Master’s degree from Texas State University and his commission in 2008.

While on his second tour in Afghanistan, instead of remaining safe at Army Headquarters, Darryn requested to have his own platoon. While on patrol with his unit, his vehicle was hit by an IED and he was placed on restricted duty. When he learned his men were going back out, he took himself off restricted duty and returned to active duty. During a patrol on September 4, the vehicle in front of his was hit by an IED. Instead of remaining safely in his vehicle, Darryn got out to assist in recovering the damaged vehicle. He looked up and saw a Taliban fire an RPG at them. He pushed his fellow soldiers out of the way and took the direct hit himself. For his heroic actions in saving his fellow soldiers, Darryn Andrews was posthumously awarded the Silver Star Medal, the third highest military decoration for valor.


[This message has been edited by Rabid Cougar (edited 6/1/2014 7:50p).]
NormanAg
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Thanks for posting this. The true story about this deserter/traitor needs to come out.

The MSM seems to be ignoring the true facts about his becoming a "POW". Hopefully, that will change over the next few weeks.

Will this become a "Mission Accomplished" moment for Obama? Hope so.

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CanyonAg77
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Damn. Andrews' actions seem close to MOH level.

God Bless Him.

I wondered why the story was so low-key over the last few years, now I'm beginning to understnd why. Good lord, old hippies are raising some looney kids these days.
momlaw
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Primary source at time of disappearance account:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/02/we-lost-soldiers-in-the-hunt-for-bergdahl-a-guy-who-walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html
Trinity Ag
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My view hasn't changed since this was last discussed here:

http://forums.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?forum_id=63&topic_id=2326389&message_id=36633120&hi=1#r36633120

And the OP tried to throw the "code of conduct" at me.

I think he should be thoroughly debriefed, and then separated from the service with no fanfare. There was already a contemporaneous 15-6 done -- not much point in re-litigating it now. What's done is done, and 5 years in captivity is a pretty stiff penalty.

For the sake of his family I am glad he is back. But that doesn't make him a hero.

Rabid Cougar
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I was in Iraq when Darryn was killed. I knew what happened and just chalked it up to another casualty of war - a terrible loss for the family, friends and the Nation. I was unaware of the overarching circumstances until just this past several days.

In my opinion, he is no hero and lucky to be alive.

Apprarently Darryn's parents didn't know the true story either. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2646345/EXCLUSIVE-Outraged-parents-officer-died-searching-deserter-Bergdahl-hit-Obama-cover-just-like-Benghazi-claiming-told-LIES-hero-son-died.html

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2004FIGHTINTXAG
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- Negotiated with terrorists.

- Traded 5 terrorists for 1 deserter. Those 5 terrorists will go on to kill if not plan and attempt to kill many Americans.

- Administration sold it as his life was in danger and we had to get him out now. The traitor had been with them for 5 freaking years already! If he was going to die it would have been years ago.

- Risked SOF lives to recover the traitor.

- Negotiation and recovery coincidentally took place during the VA scandal and all the other bad news going on about this administration.

Well done Obama and SECDEF. Pat yourselves on the back.
anaggie
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-The traitor had been with them for 5 freaking years already! If he was going to die it would have been years ago.


Ever heard of John McCain?
DirtDiver
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Darryn Andrews was a complete goofball, prankster, and a blast to be around. We shared quite a bit of time in the training room nursing football injuries together in highschool and we went to the same church. I couldn't help but look up to him.

Words like wasteful, shameful, unnecessary, come to mind when I think about his life being exchanged for a person who seems to be a traitor. Darryn is getting a lot of attention now due to mission in which he gave his life but if he was alive today and evaluating this situation I believe he would want us to know or do at least three things. First, He would redirect our focus to all of the other men and women who serve in the military who sacrifice their time and lives for their families and even the idiots at home. Second, he would want us to educate all of the idiots at home peacefully and do everything we could to get them out of office. Third, he would use the example of his life given for a traitor as a micro example of how Jesus gave his life for us.

Romans 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rabid Cougar
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Dirt Diver, I am sorry that all this has brought Darryn's loss to the forefront again. I didn't know him personally. My parents did and his loss hurt them terribly, specially my Dad.



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DirtDiver
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I can imagine. The Andrews family are a class act.

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momlaw
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/379499/bergdahl-story-you-havent-heard-michelle-malkin/page/0/1
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“A few days later, we (FTF) conducted a daylight raid on some tents looking for Bergdahl. We took heavy small-arms and RPG fire on approach and ran off the CH-47s in contact. Our entire element engaged the enemy, who turned out to be a Taliban shadow governor and his bodyguards. . . . Multiple people died that day. . . . All of this happened because Bergdahl got tired of playing soldier. The remainder of that deployment was focused on recovery efforts. Countless members of the brigade were wounded, and we lost good friends, among them PFC Matthew Martinek and 2LT Darryn Andrews. I have no doubt these great men would be alive if Bergdahl did not leave.”
neondon85
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My main question is why was he promoted if he deserted?!
mickeyrig06sq3
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My main question is why was he promoted if he deserted?!

Procedure. Can't have a trial without him present to defend himself, so he was officially a POW. There are regs on the books for promoting POWs while they are captured.

Now that he's home, they can go after that and back pay if his parents haven't spent it.
WBBQ74
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Figure dad has been saving on shaving cream and razor blades.

2004FIGHTINTXAG
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Anaggie - Comparing apples to oranges. John McCain was a Vietnam POW under a state actor. Bergdhal was not a POW, but was supposedly held captive under the Taliban which is a non-state actor.
EMY92
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Procedure. Can't have a trial without him present to defend himself, so he was officially a POW. There are regs on the books for promoting POWs while they are captured.


I believe that I read that the military never listed him as a POW.
anaggie
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Comparing apples to oranges. John McCain was a Vietnam POW under a state actor. Bergdhal was not a POW, but was supposedly held captive under the Taliban which is a non-state actor.


Regardless, they were both in captivity for ~5 years. I am not comparing the character of McCain and Bergdahl, I'm just stating that "if he was going to die it would have been years ago" is an insult to anyone who has been held POW or hostage.
AgBeliever
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Andrews is a hero

Bergdahl is a traitor & deserter

Obama is a worthless Commander in Chief
Get Off My Lawn
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Regardless, they were both in captivity for ~5 years. I am not comparing the character of McCain and Bergdahl, I'm just stating that "if he was going to die it would have been years ago" is an insult to anyone who has been held POW or hostage.

There's a big difference in enemy- the current enemy prefers to record the beheading of infidels for propaganda toward their cause of extermination. The VC used POWs as a bargaining tool in their attrition of western will to endure the fight for the country. Why was Bergdahl the one hanging chad left alive under terrorist charge? If you argue that they were able to predict his exchange rate, then wouldn’t they have kept other captured service members alive, too, and emptied Gitmo?
anaggie
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then wouldn’t they have kept other captured service members alive, too, and emptied Gitmo?


How many members of our military have been captured alive by the Taliban? I honestly don't know.
2004FIGHTINTXAG
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I wasn't comparing the two men's characters when I stated "comparing apples to oranges." What I was comparing was their captors. A state vs a non-state. Two very different things resulting in a difference of being held in captivity.

If you want to compare characters though. One is an honorable war hero that has served his country the majority of his life. The other a deserter and sympathizer.

Also, really don't understand in any way how what I said was an insult to POWs. If Berg was going to die he would have had his head cut off years ago. If he was going to starve to death it would have been years ago.
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