Navy grows as other services shrink

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JonLobb
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The Navy will increase its ranks over the next five years while the Army, Air Force and Marine Corps shrink. At the same time, recent world events have changed the equation for Army and Air Force leaders weighing their own end-strength calculations, leading them to slow down or reverse planned force cuts. (Military.com)

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/05/navy-grows-as-air-force-and-army-fight-off-personnel-cuts.html

I think this is really interesting. Discuss?
FILO505
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I think an interesting report would be where/what MOS the Navy is adding and which specific areas the other services are downsizing. The Army could certainly download a lot of dead weight, but which branches are affected? I'd be curious to see the breakdowns. Adding 10k coxswain mates isn't really groundbreaking, but more critical MOS would be interesting to see.
JonLobb
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I think an interesting report would be where/what MOS the Navy is adding and which specific areas the other services are downsizing. The Army could certainly download a lot of dead weight, but which branches are affected? I'd be curious to see the breakdowns. Adding 10k coxswain mates isn't really groundbreaking, but more critical MOS would be interesting to see.
agreed.

I know the Air Force, even though they're downsizing, is adding several thousand cyberwarfare billets
AEK
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All about the Pacific pivot.
Pro Sandy
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Deployments for the navy are increasing. Longer deployments, shorter turn around time. The navy keeps the same optempo during peace as during war.
Get Off My Lawn
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I've been confused about the Pacific Pivot since I first heard of it.

Things I understand: China as a growing military power, Smoke and Mirrors for POTUS to "win in iraq/afgn and shift to the next threat," and our military top brass WANTS to fight a more traditional war with expensive weapon systems- which is more likely in the Pacific than in the Mideast/Africa/Europe insurgent driven conflicts.

Things I don't get: We already have a significant presence in the Pacific, so will Darwin and some extra boats change anything? Why do we want to fight in the Pacific (again), when the destabilizing powers are primarily between India & Spain (yes North Korea, but they've saber rattled for 60 years now)? China is economically tied to us, so we're both trying to avoid attrition warfare- our MEUs and current pacific fleet can support Taiwan as is- where's the threat there? Nobody wants to fight Islamists in Indonesia- the most likely "war on terror" target in the region (think vietnam jungles+ww2 island campaign+Islamic radicalism), so who is our military preparing to fight there?

It just feels like we're trying to dump all asymmetric warfare/small war experience to justify expensive projects.
Pro Sandy
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A strong navy is a guarantee towards peace. We are shifting to balance Chinas growth, not threaten it.
Tango Mike
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All about the Pacific pivot.


The strategic pivot that wasn't. The military has added less than 1000 troops to the Pacific Rim since that announcement.

In reality, it was a political game to show we were leaving the MidEast as part of some campaign promises. There never was a strategic impetus to pivot
AEK
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All about the Pacific pivot.


The strategic pivot that wasn't. The military has added less than 1000 troops to the Pacific Rim since that announcement.

In reality, it was a political game to show we were leaving the MidEast as part of some campaign promises. There never was a strategic impetus to pivot


Totally agree. Thought it was almost laughable when they were pushing it at CGSC.
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The strategic pivot that wasn't. The military has added less than 1000 troops to the Pacific Rim since that announcement.

The truth is in the dollars and the manning levels. I don't believe that PACOM has even grown to a size that surpasses EUCOM let alone CENTCOM.
Get Off My Lawn
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I'm not not on the 'service as a prerequisite for political office,' bandwagon quite yet, but if you make policy that affects military disposition and lives, you should know how to put together a coherent mission statement. Some actual vision and guidance from up top would have been a fresh change. Oh well.
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