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Koldus131 said:

Prime as in the grade of the beef being served, Craft as in what people call the style of barbecue Aaron Franklin popularized.

It's just not affordable for a normal meal for most people anymore

Has anyone considered these guys should stop using prime grade beef? I think in their quest to 'elevate' barbecue, they lost the plot.

Wasn't barbecue about tougher cuts being slow smoked to make them edible, not selecting the best cuts of meat with the best marbling?

It won't affect their affordability issue with the price of beef right now, but it is a start to return to the origins of barbecue.
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I think it was sort of both; using the worst cuts that have a prime grade for better overall quality. That was the secret to Franklin's success: using prime briskets. And everyone has gone to that for better or worse. You can still make very good barbecue from choice brisket; it's just not going to be as good as someone using prime, all things considered.

Barbecue used to be grabbing a brisket sandwich and some beans for a quick, affordable lunch. Now it's a special occasion meal.
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We do have a lot of options for more affordable BBQ that isn't using prime brisket, but it's all from Rudy's, Buc-ee's, Bill Miller, HEB, etc.

The problem with the current BBQ landscape is similar to the movie industry. We're either getting big corporate studio productions for the masses (Marvel/Rudy's) or your other option is fancy boutique studio productions that aren't for everyone (A24/LeRoy & Lewis)

We need a good middle ground where BBQ places are using our newer craft techniques, but applying them to a more accessible and affordable BBQ. Just like we had with mid budget movies in the 90s
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I think that's very insightful and would be an awesome middle ground, however isn't the issue also guys like Daniel Vaughn and other bloggers come in, crap on the restaurant that is trying to be the middle ground and it hurts the business from a potential customer base perspective?

Seems like we've created a culture of one end of the spectrum or the other based on social media.
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Definitely a problem with respect to barbecue, but imo it's a problem in the restuarant world in general as well, at least for us here in the Austin area. Everything that opens is junk fast food or high-end (I don't mean white tablecloth at all; lots of expensive food here with extremely casual settings). It seems that to make it you either need to have very high volume or high prices, and there's just not any room in the middle. Even food trucks are typically fairly expensive. Just crazy times.
HTownAg98
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I could go on and on about "influencers," but if you're publicizing a restaurant and you are getting compensated for anything (discounted or comped meal, or flat-out getting paid for it), and you don't disclose that, you should be embarrassed and I hope your reputation is ruined.
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HTownAg98 said:

I could go on and on about "influencers," but if you're publicizing a restaurant and you are getting compensated for anything (discounted or comped meal, or flat-out getting paid for it), and you don't disclose that, you should be embarrassed and I hope your reputation is ruined.

This is one of the reasons I respect Dave Portnoy as a pizza critic. The guy is a multi-millionaire through his business deals with Barstool, so he became an influencer without needing to make that his career. He still uses his 'power' for good, though. If he tries a pizza and it isn't great but he can see the people are really trying, he doesn't post a review, but comes back later and gives them a second chance once they're established. If he tries one and they're great, he reports how they're great, and people flock to that place. He knows one good review can make a place into an overnight success, and he tries to help people out there trying to make it.

He's like Jonathan Gold, the beloved food critic for the LA Times who passed from cancer in 2018. Gold basically refused to do a bad review. He knew people were often putting their life savings into their restaurant dream, and he wasn't going to crush someone like that. If it wasn't great, he'd give them time to master their craft, and come back when it was great so he could rave about it.
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Every time I play "catch up" on this thread, I'm amazed how much people eat. At City Market in Luling, 2 slices and one ring of sausage with a couple of slices of bread and some pickles/onions is all I can hold.
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B-1 83 said:

Every time I play "catch up" on this thread, I'm amazed how much people eat. At City Market in Luling, 2 slices and one ring of sausage with a couple of slices of bread and some pickles/onions is all I can hold.

Agree. For 60+ years my go to meal at Kreuz or Smitty's is one slice of clod, one ring of sausage, crackers, a dill pickle, a jalapeno pepper, a slice of cheese and a Big Red.
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New Pinkerton's at 59/Shep (old 59 Diner location) was great today.

Pork Prime Rib, Brisket, Glazed Pork Ribs
Okra & tomatoes
Duck Jambalaya

Hwy30East
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Looks great! Was there a line or long wait?
Aggie09Derek
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About 20-25 minutes

15 or so people out the door and then decent line inside.




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How was the okra and tomatoes? Looks like what my grandmother called okra goulash.
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Aggie09Derek
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Really good. Right up my alley.

I love the okra at Zydeco and reminded me of them a bit.
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500,000ags said:

Has anyone been to the L&L steak night? I went back 5-6 pages, but didn't see it mentioned. Just saw pics on Reddit and it looks awesome. Feels like this thing more like a friends and family (and influencer) thing, maybe.
Bunch of reservations for Valentine's just opened up. I managed to snag one.
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Nice, me as well.
Koldus131
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Good article from TM today. Lots more closures will be coming.
Backyard Gator
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Koldus131 said:



Good article from TM today. Lots more closures will be coming.

I think a lot of these guys need to stick to running a food truck or do catering only until prices go back down and normalize.
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