Buzz shenanigans…cliff notes please?

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I apologize for adding yet another Buzz thread, but there is so much chatter and conversation on so many threads, it's hard to get a handle on what has actually transpired (or rumored to have transpired) without reading through tons of content for the casuals here.

I'm seeing vague references to Buzz being unhappy and having done or said things people are unhappy about, rift with the AD, etc. Could someone be a real mensch and provide a summary of what's going on with Buzz?
bobinator
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Buzz weird.
Buzz no like staying place long time.
Buzz no make friends.
Nobody want hire Buzz.
Buzz maybe stuck.
greg.w.h
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Nothing is public. So you want us to double down on rumors and make them more salient than they are?
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Yeah, I don't think Buzz is necessarily unhappy. He just prefers to have a fresh start every 5-6 years.


zgolfz85
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buzz is weird, has OCD and a deadly fear of getting fired...so he just moves before that can happen
Class of 65
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Maryland no longer interested but Buzz is pushing.
Long range he will or has burned his bridge here but there is a buy out.
So who ever takes Maryland will have an opening . Buzz s going to an unknown school
SunrayAg
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Anonymous internet posters don't know any actual facts, but freak out about rumors and speculation.
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I doubt that. He gets paid very well here. If a big boy doesn't bite he's probably staying. He's not going just anywhere imo.
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greg.w.h said:

Nothing is public. So you want us to double down on rumors and make them more salient than they are?
This whole thing has a slight trace of "fake news" to me.

I know random media sources as well as Liucci have opined that Buzz is ready to leave and that he put his name out there for Maryland and other jobs. But none of us know to what extent those rumors are true or untrue.

I remember once when the world was going crazy that the Aggies spent $30 million on a recruiting class until someone opened the world's eyes to the fact that it was a poster named "Sliced Bread" on BroBible. And it was false.

It just doesn't make sense that a guy like Buzz, who is so regimented and organized, would jump into a program without an AD and whose coach left because of issues with how Maryland funds its basketball program.
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We might have another Mark Stoops Kentucky football situation going on but Buzz Williams is Mark Stoops, Aggie basketball is Kentucky football, Maryland basketball is Aggie football and unfortunately Luke Murray might be Mike Elko.
bobinator
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I actually think it makes perfect sense to want the Maryland job without an AD. Their last coach just publicly roasted their basketball financial situation so they're probably going to give the next coach whatever they ask for for a while.
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Class of 65 said:

Maryland no longer interested but Buzz is pushing.
Long range he will or has burned his bridge here but there is a buy out.
So who ever takes Maryland will have an opening . Buzz s going to an unknown school
where are you seeing that they're no longer interested?
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bobinator said:

I actually think it makes perfect sense to want the Maryland job without an AD. Their last coach just publicly roasted their basketball financial situation so they're probably going to give the next coach whatever they ask for for a while.
I read somewhere the buyout that Maryland - or any other school - would pay will drop by $1.5M or so after March 31st (Today). Would it be reasonable to assume they would wait until Tuesday to make an announcement?
tomato3938
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Why doesn't The AD tell Buzz to either leave or stay ASAP
leftlane4passing
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We don't want to pay the buyout
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tomato3938 said:

Why doesn't The AD tell Buzz to either leave or stay ASAP


Why would Buzz care if the AD told him this? He literally has 15 million reasons not to care.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
bobinator
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Maybe, but I don't necessarily think that's the holdup here.
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He's burned a lot of goodwill here.
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Bucketrunner said:

He's burned a lot of goodwill here.
By doing what?
"Can I Ask What Exactly Is An Aggie? Sure! An Aggie is quite simply the best thing anyone can strive to be!" - Sydney Colson
Josepi
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czar_iv said:

Bucketrunner said:

He's burned a lot of goodwill here.
By doing what?
Nobody knows this. People are just running with internet rumors and treating them like fact

So many posters are so weird and emotional about all of this. We pay Buzz well, and in return, he's tries his best so that he can 1) make more money in the future and/or 2) get a better job in the future. Pretty much the exact same thing most of us are doing at our jobs today.

I'd like Buzz to stay, but if he leaves, wish him the best and go hire a new coach. We have the money and resources to be a appealing to a lot of string candidates. ..

Maybe it's all schools (I don't know), but I feel like as a fan base we get too attached to our coaches. They are all hired mercenaries.
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As a Buzz fan, I can say he will be the coach at Texas A&M next year.
bobinator
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BuzzFan24 said:

As a Buzz fan, I can say he will be the coach at Texas A&M next year.
Being a fan gives you predictive powers?
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There have been enough credible college basketball people talking about this to say its more than just rumor that there has been mutual interest between Buzz and Maryland for their open head coaching position.

How much interest, who started it, how hard one side is pushing, where Buzz is on their list, bad will/anger from A&M side, etc. ... those things are all 100% rumors and fan fervor. But the baseline "Buzz is interested in Maryland and vice versa" can almost certainly be taken as fact.
Dimond1968
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Here's to Buzz Williams. Let's get behind our coach.
Method Man
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czar_iv said:

Bucketrunner said:

He's burned a lot of goodwill here.
By doing what?
Putting his name out for jobs since last season.
90ags
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Thanks Buzz....why didn't you post with 40 emoticons to make your stmt. of support vs. typing words?
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bobinator said:

Buzz weird.
Buzz no like staying place long time.
Buzz no make friends.
Nobody want hire Buzz.
Buzz maybe stuck.
also buzz no like recruiting.
Buzz no bring in shooters.
Other teams wary of buzz.
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Josepi said:

czar_iv said:

Bucketrunner said:

He's burned a lot of goodwill here.
By doing what?
Nobody knows this. People are just running with internet rumors and treating them like fact

So many posters are so weird and emotional about all of this. We pay Buzz well, and in return, he's tries his best so that he can 1) make more money in the future and/or 2) get a better job in the future. Pretty much the exact same thing most of us are doing at our jobs today.

I'd like Buzz to stay, but if he leaves, wish him the best and go hire a new coach. We have the money and resources to be a appealing to a lot of string candidates. ..

Maybe it's all schools (I don't know), but I feel like as a fan base we get too attached to our coaches. They are all hired mercenaries.
No, posters aren't weird. Coaches are "weird. strange, ocd, 'spectrum', read books, write notes, pray, ,etc. Who knew Buzz was only the coach with quirks. Now his character is being questioned because he might be interested in another job and it snowballed because nothing else to talk about.

I'm sure the fishbowl gets old with some just looking to pounce. I hope he's laughing at speculators in 'media', and working up a bill to send for his material provided.
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I don't know why people think he can't recruit. That narrative has gotten WAY out of control. I think it must be a combination of football mentality when people just log onto a recruiting service and look at the high school rankings and some sort of lack of understanding what our basketball recruiting ability looks like compared to other sports.

Especially when it comes from the same people who also don't think he can coach worth anything. If he can't recruit at all, then getting a four seed from this group of players should be seen as some kind of coaching miracle right?

He's not some kind of recruiting savant or anything, and he probably focuses too much on personality rather than actual basketball skills, but our overall ability to recruit the guys he wants to recruit has been fine.
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TjgtAg08 said:

There have been enough credible college basketball people talking about this to say its more than just rumor that there has been mutual interest between Buzz and Maryland for their open head coaching position.

How much interest, who started it, how hard one side is pushing, where Buzz is on their list, bad will/anger from A&M side, etc. ... those things are all 100% rumors and fan fervor. But the baseline "Buzz is interested in Maryland and vice versa" can almost certainly be taken as fact.
ok. so? There is no best way to handle. Time spent on this bs is not on his to do list. The portal is.
northeastag
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Couldn't Buzz shut this all down pretty fast if none of it were true and he wanted it to go away. Uncertainty about his future can't be good for recruiting.
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bobinator said:

I don't know why people think he can't recruit. That narrative has gotten WAY out of control. I think it must be a combination of football mentality when people just log onto a recruiting service and look at the high school rankings and some sort of lack of understanding what our basketball recruiting ability looks like compared to other sports.

Especially when it comes from the same people who also don't think he can coach worth anything. If he can't recruit at all, then getting a four seed from this group of players should be seen as some kind of coaching miracle right?

He's not some kind of recruiting savant or anything, and he probably focuses too much on personality rather than actual basketball skills, but our overall ability to recruit the guys he wants to recruit has been fine.


Agreed, he can definitely recruit…just not at the level we need to get to a final 4 likely. A big part of that is limiting the population of recruitable guys due to character, system etc. I actually think the fact he can get guys to sign on to his very quirky system speaks to how good a recruiter he is. It would be amazing if he didn't wipe out 75% of the recruitable field before going to work though.
frenchtoast
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Which job was he lobbying for last season? I'm old and forgetful.
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Buzz knows he'll be fired if he stays, so he's trying to get out. He recruits awful (averages #35 ranked classes), he's awful at offense, and he can't win in the postseason and has an ultimate ceiling of making the 3rd round with his horrible offense and recruiting.
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bobinator said:

and he probably focuses too much on personality rather than actual basketball skills.


You kind of answered your own question, no?
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