I had seen this, but it's hard to draw any conclusions from an allegation by a sports reporter...

Is it true or not?
If it is, who was responsible for the breakdown in communication?
If Alberts was the source of the problem, why only Buzz?
If Buzz didn't reach out, should Trev have followed him around asking questions, or give him leash to run his program?

Though communication is a two-way street, I'm inclined to think that if this was true, then Buzz didn't want to have an open channel, and Trev gave him room.

If Buzz would have made the Final 4, we'd be praising his management style to "let Buzz be Buzz".

Seth Greenberg also will just repeat anything a coach tells him. Dude's like a PR department for every coach in america.

That we paid Nebraska a $4 million buyout for Trev was the most interesting thing about that article. But his lack of support for NIL and the issues with the stadium build out were also news.

my assumption is this stemmed from the buzz side, not trev's, but who knows

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Will there be an example of the AD smoothing relations with a major level coach at A&M. Or will it be constantly that the coach just didn't want to talk to me. Makes me think that TA may be part of the problem.

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I read that at first as TexAgs rather than Trev.

I disagree, if anything I think the Maryland (and Indiana) job is attractive to him because the baseline level of NIL support is going to be higher.

Did any of you guys ever interact with Buzz? He was constantly complaining about having to do things he didn't want to do and built a staff to insulate him. Anytime he was in public doing something like a radio show, lunch with WBB Joni's first year, and even donor events, he made it clear he didn't want to be there, literally verbally stating that to the audience.

Instagram Buzz and real life Buzz appeared to be two different personas. Real life Buzz was cantankerous and difficult.

Billy said a while back Buzz and Bjork rarely spoke when Bjork was here. He also said Trev talks with Elko and Earley daily and didn't mention Buzz. He said Buzz used the excuse of coaching basketball too often to avoid relationships with people. It was also one year ago when Trev made the budget cost layoff and Buzz got mad that one of his staffers was let go. Buzz's staff had a lot more people on payroll than the three coaches before him.

He did all that here too. I think he threw out the first pitch at a baseball game and I think he had Bryan Davis on his staff when he first started.

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Billy said a while back Buzz and Bjork rarely spoke when Bjork was here. He also said Trev talks with Elko and Earley daily and didn't mention Buzz. He said Buzz used the excuse of coaching basketball too often to avoid relationships with people. It was also one year ago when Trev made the budget cost layoff and Buzz got mad that one of his staffers was let go. Buzz's staff had a lot more people on payroll than the three coaches before him.

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Buzz doesn't sleep so I never had a problem with all his reading and stuff like some people do as he has more hours in his waking day that most humans. He was spending a ****load of time on basketball and I never felt he needed to spend more time on basketball. But he could have spent more time building relationships whether that was in the athletics department, among students, with donors or with the community, The excuse that Billy talked about him using (which Billy is not an acceptable excuse) is a bunch of crap when you are taking time to teach glasses during the middle of the day. It wasn't that he didn't have time, it's that he chose not to spend that time doing those things.

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It's a failure by TA to not get buy-in from arguably his two most marketable (to leave) coaches upon arrival here.

I don't think Buzz helped the situation. Appears to be an ego-maniac.

The irony is I do think Buzz learned the hard way on the NIL side of things and will be firmly up donors a**es at Maryland, because I think he finally gets he needs their bucks to compete.

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Look at when Trev was hired. Schloss was already talking to CDC. Explain to me in detail, what buy in Trev was supposed to get with Schloss. Esp when Schloss was ignoring meetings to discuss stadium expansion.

Feels like this is going how much coaching changes go... people bringing up stuff like this the entire tenure and it getting defended/denied, but once the coach is out the door everyone knew it all along.

He tries to throw people off with the "aww shucks" and self-deprecation, but Buzz is extremely pretentious.

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Aston04 said:

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It's a failure by TA to not get buy-in from arguably his two most marketable (to leave) coaches upon arrival here.

I don't think Buzz helped the situation. Appears to be an ego-maniac.

The irony is I do think Buzz learned the hard way on the NIL side of things and will be firmly up donors a**es at Maryland, because I think he finally gets he needs their bucks to compete.

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Look at when Trev was hired. Schloss was already talking to CDC. Explain to me in detail, what buy in Trev was supposed to get with Schloss. Esp when Schloss was ignoring meetings to discuss stadium expansion.

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Yeah Billy said Schloss went out of his way NOT to have a relationship with Trev because Schloss wanted A&M to hire the Army AD and when they didn't he was pretty much done at that point because he didn't get his way.

Not gonna stop us from blaming him for stuff. Heard he was in charge of the Reed traffic design.

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It's a failure by TA to not get buy-in from arguably his two most marketable (to leave) coaches upon arrival here.

I don't think Buzz helped the situation. Appears to be an ego-maniac.

The irony is I do think Buzz learned the hard way on the NIL side of things and will be firmly up donors a**es at Maryland, because I think he finally gets he needs their bucks to compete.

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Look at when Trev was hired. Schloss was already talking to CDC. Explain to me in detail, what buy in Trev was supposed to get with Schloss. Esp when Schloss was ignoring meetings to discuss stadium expansion.

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I don't have the details- nor will I ever. He did fire one of Schloss's guys- which may have been penny wise, pound foolish.

The point is he didn't get buy in from Schloss that he was fully supportive. Justified or not. Is what it is.

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But you're saying it's all Trev's fault. Schloss wanted another AD, Schloss was ignoring meetings on the stadium, Schloss was planning on leaving before the season was over. All in guess than 3 months Trev was on the job

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Had not heard this before. Any confirming stories?

Shocking claim made about former Nebraska athletic director

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I'm going to use Buzz Williams as an example. He hasn't talked to his athletic director in a year. In one year, he hasn't talked to his athletic director."

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And as always, SIAP. Looked over the past seven days and did not see any thread titles that would lead to this.

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Greenberg also said Buzz didn't speak to his athletic director the last year he was at Va Tech. Coincidence? Olin Buchanan reported Buzz stopped going to church and out to dinner because he didn't want to interact with fans.

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It's a failure by TA to not get buy-in from arguably his two most marketable (to leave) coaches upon arrival here.

I don't think Buzz helped the situation. Appears to be an ego-maniac.

The irony is I do think Buzz learned the hard way on the NIL side of things and will be firmly up donors a**es at Maryland, because I think he finally gets he needs their bucks to compete.

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Look at when Trev was hired. Schloss was already talking to CDC. Explain to me in detail, what buy in Trev was supposed to get with Schloss. Esp when Schloss was ignoring meetings to discuss stadium expansion.

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I don't have the details- nor will I ever. He did fire one of Schloss's guys- which may have been penny wise, pound foolish.

The point is he didn't get buy in from Schloss that he was fully supportive. Justified or not. Is what it is.

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But you're saying it's all Trev's fault. Schloss wanted another AD, Schloss was ignoring meetings on the stadium, Schloss was planning on leaving before the season was over. All in guess than 3 months Trev was on the job

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It's the classic Aggie fan psychosis always stan for coaches no matter how much they suck or spit in your face. Surely it's all Albert's fault right? I mean, he's the new guy and he wears glasses…our precious Schloss could never be wrong, and if he was ignoring meetings then it probably was justified!

Same thing with Buzz; let's all ignore the fact that's he might've been the strangest coach to come through here in ages and that his pathology towards getting fired goes back to his previous jobs….he did nothing wrong! It's all the new guys fault! We have to blame someone that's still around!

The day our fans develop enough self confidence in what A&M can and ought to accomplish will be the day this cycle of underachievement stops.

I liked Buzz, but he was an eccentric dude seemed to be an introvert and overly worried about outward appearance. I noticed when he was interviewed by the ESPN / SEC personalities it always seemed to devolve into talking about suits and who wore pocket handkerchiefs. It seemed to be part of his way to deflect. I do think he figured out how to coach some of the more difficult parts of the game which led to moderate success, but had a tough time building teams to win all phases consistently.

I know he connected with players that he could try to teach, but seemed to have a tough time with non-players. I met an older telative of his at a friend's house in Buzz's 2nd year. I won't share more info as not to start a family issue, but they shared that Buzz was a bit "different" as a kid, in a good but intense way, and that some were surprised at how successful he was in a high profile, stressful profession. Seems like he's figured out some coping mechanisms, which work for him (i.e., reading, cleaning his glasses, chewing gum incessantly, focusing on suits, etc.). I liked his quirks when he was "our guy", but in hindsight they may indicate some personality traits that make it tough for long term success and tenure. Avoiding your boss certainly seems to fall into that category!

If Seth Greenberg is still upright Buzz can call him again in six years.

Schlossnagle *****ed and moaned about almost everything the minute he showed up on campus, long before Alberts got here.

Buzz is a weirdo and a nomad that keeps everyone at arm's length unless you're in his circle.

I don't know how you blame Alberts for either of those two situations.