I know Jack about Basketball, but I LOVE Bucky Ball

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Mark Fairchild
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Howdy, Truly no very little, nothing about the game, but I LOVE watching Bucky Ball!!! Fast and Furious, nothing like Buzzard Ball. I am now a fan, albeit clueless!
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
bobinator
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What I think is funny about some of the posts like this on here and in premium is I thought yesterday was probably our buzz-ball-iest game of the season.
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It's not really all that complicated . You know a lot more than you think you do I suspect. I think Buckyball could be just what the Doctor ordered for A & M hoops. We have a good shot at getting players that can play this style of game and getting them in quantity. The style requires at least a 10 man rotation because of the full court defensive approach . We probably won't get many if any that are among the best players in that nation but you can still win games with the team/system approach.

I'm not fooling myself into thinking this team is going to set the world on fire but just some demonstrated success of the system will perhaps draw the players you need for next level success .

I bought in early … got season tix for first time this year partly because I liked the concept and probably moreso that I retired last year and knew I'd have time to go to games . It's a little over an hour for me. Glad I did. Have enjoyed it . It's not stupid expensive imo especially compared to football.

Pretty much disappointed that the Ath Dept doesn't do more to promote men's basketball. Yesterday was a decent crowd but the GA seats were mostly empty . Those are I guess somewhat reserved for students and only offered to others on a walk up basis but as Bobinator pointed out almost a week ago they knew the students weren't coming yesterday so why not promote the general public and families to get in and see what's up with the program by offering up bargain basement pricing in advance. You make more money that way vs empty seats cuz families and random others are gonna buy concessions as opposed to empty seats that won't.
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Yeah it's actually not all that complicated. Really understanding what Buzz was trying to do was a lot more complex.

This thing is pretty straightforward. Especially offensively.

Take high value shots, don't take low value shots.
Proposition Joe
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And spend on NIL. That's going to be the difference.
slatermikan
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I think that having a more casual fan's excitement over the brand of ball is a great sign. Growing as a basketball fan in 80's Austin, everyone was captivated by the dramatic shift from coach Bob Weltlich, a low quality Bobby Knight disciple, to the run and shoot style of Tom Penders.
Penders had some great, and not so great years there, but the style of play brought the fans back to the Erwin Center. Could definitely see the rebound effect happening with Bucky's style here.
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One quick analogy to "Bucky Ball" that I bet you remember would be Nolan Richardson's "40 Minutes of Hell" at Arkansas. Guard oriented and relies on intense full court defensive pressure. Not saying we have the right personnel yet but that seems to be the plan.
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Our high school coach introduced us to the "40 minutes of hell" due to a lack of skill players. Bucky Ball immediately made me think of it, except we have skill players.

I'm very excited to see what this becomes.
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I'd say this is a modern reboot of "40 minutes of hell." A lot of the teams that did that has really good athletes but not great fundamentals, but we're almost the opposite of that. It's a much more tactical press and transition offense than those were.
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At Clear Lake, we pressed a 1-2-1-1 then pulled back into a pressure 1-3-1 zone.

Once Bucky gets some horses like Nolan Richardson had, Bucky Ball will be even more fun.

Last night, this style prevailed against a taller more talented team.

Bucky had our guys ready to play. If we had one more talented Big Guy, we'd be dangerous- er.
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bobinator said:

What I think is funny about some of the posts like this on here and in premium is I thought yesterday was probably our buzz-ball-iest game of the season.
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Poor 3 point shooting, lots of offensive boards, missed FTs. Very Buzz like game.
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bobinator said:

What I think is funny about some of the posts like this on here and in premium is I thought yesterday was probably our buzz-ball-iest game of the season.

I find it funny that these are the same type of threads that were posted when Buzz arrived.
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The big thing when Buzz arrived was just how hard the team played all the time, which was a nice change. But we were terrible Buzz's first season until the very end.

For comparison, our Torvik ranking after our first conference game that year was 211, the lowest it would reach that season. It's currently #39.
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bobinator said:

The big thing when Buzz arrived was just how hard the team played all the time, which was a nice change. But we were terrible Buzz's first season until the very end.

For comparison, our Torvik ranking after our first conference game that year was 211, the lowest it would reach that season. It's currently #39.

Completely agree and understand your point. I am just pointing out there is usually always positive reaction to new coaches.
halfastros81
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It's true. I am guilty of it . It's called being a fan .
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Ya - we almost always want something different. Remember people excited at the first clip of Jimbo dogging the quarterbacks? Just fandom in general.
Mark Fairchild
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I REALLY love Bucky Ball now!!
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
Muy
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Does Bucky's style impact our ability to land a superstar? Seems like it would since the superstars want the offense centered around them, but at the same time a superstar PG or Center would benefit greatly as long as they are willing to get after it on the press
bobinator
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I don't know if we're going to land any superstars but we might create some
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Southlake said:

At Clear Lake, we pressed a 1-2-1-1 then pulled back into a pressure 1-3-1 zone.

Once Bucky gets some horses like Nolan Richardson had, Bucky Ball will be even more fun.

Last night, this style prevailed against a taller more talented team.

Bucky had our guys ready to play. If we had one more talented Big Guy, we'd be dangerous- er.

Clear Lake - Bill Kruger (Head Coach 1972 - 1996)
Most winningest High School Basketball Coach in the Country
Morgan Wooten Award for Boys Basketball
1000+ wins 81% win percentage
Two State Championships
29 District Championships

Connection to A&M: Many famous Krueger's at A&M... Bill had a full ride offer to play at A&M, but chose another school.
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sleepybeagle said:

Southlake said:

At Clear Lake, we pressed a 1-2-1-1 then pulled back into a pressure 1-3-1 zone.

Once Bucky gets some horses like Nolan Richardson had, Bucky Ball will be even more fun.

Last night, this style prevailed against a taller more talented team.

Bucky had our guys ready to play. If we had one more talented Big Guy, we'd be dangerous- er.

Clear Lake - Bill Kruger (Head Coach 1972 - 1996)
Most winningest High School Basketball Coach in the Country
Morgan Wooten Award for Boys Basketball
1000+ wins 81% win percentage
Two State Championships
29 District Championships

Connection to A&M: Many famous Krueger's at A&M... Bill had a full ride offer to play at A&M, but chose another school.

Thank you for posting this. The Ol Ball Coach definitely had a profound on my life. I played on the same team with Aggie Steve Sylestine. We were 37-3 my senior year before losing to Thad Sanders and Port Arthur Lincoln in the regional finals.
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Muy said:

Does Bucky's style impact our ability to land a superstar? Seems like it would since the superstars want the offense centered around them, but at the same time a superstar PG or Center would benefit greatly as long as they are willing to get after it on the press


I think it will be significantly easier since he focuses on offense. More elite players want to score than play defense. Look who Alabama has been getting. They were a nobody before Oats. Now they are perennial top 10-15ish.
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Muy said:

Does Bucky's style impact our ability to land a superstar? Seems like it would since the superstars want the offense centered around them, but at the same time a superstar PG or Center would benefit greatly as long as they are willing to get after it on the press

A&M is not going to win at basketball by being the Dodgers or the Yankees, we are going to have to win by being the A's or the Brewers.

Buckyball is perfect for this.

We won't be able to get Kevin Durant, the one year phenom stopping off in college for a year on his way to the NBA. We won't be able to afford to outpay for him, and he is going to want to play for Kentucky or Kansas. Our BB NIL budget will be similar or less than the top programs. We just won't be able to moneywhip our way to a championship through elite-of-the-elite talent.

But we can get 8 or 9 Alex Curoso's. Very high value players for their price.

Then, you just run the dog-**** out of them and the other team. Rotating players in constantly, full-court press all game, and just wear the other team down.

It's really not all that different from Gillespie ball. BCG's team would work their ass off on defense, and then try to make sure they made the other team work really hard on defense while we pretty much passed the ball around and rested for the next defensive possession.

Except, in Buckyball, the idea is that you work your ass off on defense, score as quickly as possible, taking the first high-value shot available, and then rotate your players out often.

We are having success because we have a deep team, a well conditioned team, and we will just out-condition you. Those three late TOs by Auburn probably don't happen like that if you have an Auburn team with their legs under them.

I love the strategy. A workhorse team is going to win at A&M, because we can afford to pay for excellent work-horse players. BCG's trip to Kentucky show that this kind of system likely does not work as well in the blue chip programs.

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I think we're more like the Astros than the A's or the Brewers. We're not going to sign the absolute best of the best, but we also shouldn't be scraping the margins.

Recruit good-but-not-necessarily-elite high schoolers, develop them into great players, fill the holes with good players out of the portal.

Like the Astros, at the heart of our success, if we're going to have sustained high-level success, is going to be home-grown talent that we develop into elite players.
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