Clemence was awful today. Fouling , missing open 3's

I can see why KU showed him the door

Clemence was 1/3 shooting threes today (2/4 overall) and him and Federiko had the same number of fouls (3). What bothers me most about Federiko though is how much it hurts the offense overall to have someone with zero offensive game on the floor. It's so much easier for his defender to sag off and clog the lane when they don't have to worry at all about his shot from outside, and we don't even want him down low because he's not good at finishing or free throw shooting either. It also is infuriating to watch him rebound

Yeah when you look at him , he's a big athletic looking player whom I'm sure is a streaky kind of shooter. At times he looks like he's got a lot of promise but I don't think we need him shooting bombs. We have 4-5 guys that excel at that so him and Agee need to set high screens and then roll to the basket or crash the boards and leave the 3's to Pop, Griffen, Dominguez and Lane

He just needed to spin back to his right and he would've been fine, it was very ugly tho

I'm missing something…we are winning until we're not. We've talked about the challenges of a new coach and a entirely new squad of players. Our comments are a like a bunch of crotchety old men. Admittedly that is what make college boards interesting and also confusing. The success of the team will sometimes be based on something we don't like if it doesn't involve our favorite players. We are dissing players who consistently have a positive +/-, while complementing some who don't. Someone said…I thought we had something. Well we do…a team that is 3-0 in SEC play we didn't expect to be. SMH…

Ball Fan said:

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I'm missing something…we are winning until we're not. We've talked about the challenges of a new coach and an entirely new squad of players. Our comments are a like a bunch of crotchety old men. Admittedly that is what make college boards interesting and also confusing. The success of the team will sometimes be based on something we don't like if it doesn't involve our favorite players. We are dissing players who consistently have a positive +/-, while complementing some who don't. Someone said…I thought we had something. Well we do…a team that is 3-0 in SEC play we didn't expect to be. SMH…

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If we are 3-0 in conference play that means we shouldn't talk about anything negative on a message board. Good point, rookie.

Hell, I'd settle with solo.

Hello id settle for solo.

nelsonagholor said:

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I'm struggling to see why he's getting minutes right now. He doesn't contribute on offense, doesn't rebound much, and fouls too much on defense. I think you've gotta give clemence or Vinson a chance to have more of an impact, both of them have shown the ability to shoot and participate in the offense and they're at least as good as federiko defensively

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Good thing you know more than the coach. You should probably tell him what he's doing wrong. He probably feels so foolish to have made this mistake for so long.

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Him trying to back down that little guard was a tough watch.

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How? He backed him down like he wanted. Just lowered his shoulder knocking the defender down drawing a charge. Got where he was going. No idea if he's got anything like Agee's touch on shots down there though.

Because he drew an obvious charge instead of being able to post up a guy that he had like a two foot height advantage on?

At some point this season he'll make a big play that saves a game.

I just rewatched the game and paid attention to Fed while he was in the game. It's very frustrating to watch him rebound. He just looks awkward.

This is his worst rebounding season by 2 rebounds per game, so maybe he just isnt comfortable in the system?

Him and Vinson both just get absolutely lost around the basket somehow. My guess is they're both thinking too much because it seems impossible that they'd be this out of position for rebounds this often.

Well Bucky's system crashes everybody to the boards. His lack of rebounding production could just be due in part to the fact that he's now competing with the rest of the team for rebounds.

Though as a whole I'd say our rebound instincts aren't great

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Charlie Moran said:

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Clemence was awful today. Fouling , missing open 3's

I can see why KU showed him the door

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He had five points. Pretty good for him. Weird player. Seems like he should be better

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My seats were 2nd deck looking down the baseline when OU was bringing in the ball in the first half. Clemence was really good in the press being a huge thorn for the inbounder. He played that role very well.

Agreed, he did an excellent job on the possession where we got the 10 second call

Clemence never got to play at KU he's not what they like in a post player. It's unfortunate he's a sr another yr in this system he'd be a better contributor.

We already know that he isnt a dawg, but i think thats my main issue. He doesn't attack the ball when rebounding. He's got the measurable, but not the intent.

Maybe he's being told to focus on boxing out or something.

Someone said here a few weeks ago he might get another yr. I dunno if that's true or not.

On the back in on Forsythe I felt like he should just elevate a few feet from the basket and shoot over him. Forsythe wasn't going to block his shot and maybe fouls him. It's not like he needed an angle to the bucket to get a good shot off.

I don't see how he'd get another year unless he was hurt last season. Four full years of division 1 basketball seems to be the last eligibility rule still on the books.

Like Isaacs actually will get a redshirt for last year so he has another year.