It's not just , "Bucky Ball"

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Folks define Bucky Ball here as "constant full court pressure and 3 point shooting"

So much more than that: Minimal turnovers, good decisions and overall execution. They don't stress, no complaining and their focus is off the charts. They are confident but not cocky. Team free throw shooting is above 75%. Team players know and understand this system and where they fit in. They are in top physical shape and do not seem to tire out. The rotation is spot on.

Got good thing going. But just like their games have runs back and forth, the season can be a microcosm of that with this style. Can easily lose 3 or 4 in a row too. Voters are waiting for it. So far, they've kept that from happening.

Only weakness I can see is depth at the post position.

Just an outstanding of coaching and playing; I've never seen a brand new team play together so well. Proud of these guys…

Please lock Bucky down !
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I kinda think that's the genius of the whole thing. You worry so much about all the bells and whistles and then we just come out and punch you in the mouth too and play good solid basketball on top of it.
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Bucky has been awesome so far. But I bet one of the most underscored things that hasn't been discussed is his reliance on his assistants and how good they are performing in their roles.
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And just their familiarity with the logistics of this kind of program was huge. Would have been easy for Bucky to lose the forest for the trees. Haith in particular has probably been really helpful in that regard.
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Buckyball IS the whole package it seems. The only thing we can do to hold off blue blood overtures is commit to basketball like the blue bloods do. Show Bucky we can give him everything he needs to build his own blue blood program with his personal signature on it rather than the having the ghost of Rupp or Wooden or whoever … you get the picture. Leadership needs to understand it's not just about compensation.

I dunno what you can do about Momma calling. Maybe nothing. Hope Oates has some success and doesn't want to leave
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We have former head coaches as assistants and an S&C coach who has tons of experience.
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GrayMatter said:

We have former head coaches as assistants and an S&C coach who has tons of experience.

I think the coaches on the staff need a tip of the hat too, they're part of the reason why we're playing so well.
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BQ_90 said:

GrayMatter said:

We have former head coaches as assistants and an S&C coach who has tons of experience.

I think the coaches on the staff need a tip of the hat too, they're part of the reason why we're playing so well.


Most of them were in BK's staff, yes? Probably why he went to 2 S16's.
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You have to also consider who picked the assistants.
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Keller and Cole were gone before the second one. And Haith didn't coach under Kennedy but did coach here under Barone.
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Amir Abdur-Rahim was also on both those staffs, not to mention Stansbury. The second "era" staff Kennedy put together was actually incredible.
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halfastros81 said:

Buckyball IS the whole package it seems. The only thing we can do to hold off blue blood overtures is commit to basketball like the blue bloods do. Show Bucky we can give him everything he needs to build his own blue blood program with his personal signature on it rather than the having the ghost of Rupp or Wooden or whoever … you get the picture. Leadership needs to understand it's not just about compensation.

I dunno what you can do about Momma calling. Maybe nothing. Hope Oates has some success and doesn't want to leave
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Do I care how awesome his assistants are while winning? Yes. But does it diminish BUCKY? Hell no. He had the wisdom to hire a great staff and get Trev on board. It's more reason to praise Bucky and Trev.
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halfastros81 said:

Buckyball IS the whole package it seems. The only thing we can do to hold off blue blood overtures is commit to basketball like the blue bloods do. Show Bucky we can give him everything he needs to build his own blue blood program with his personal signature on it rather than the having the ghost of Rupp or Wooden or whoever … you get the picture. Leadership needs to understand it's not just about compensation.

I dunno what you can do about Momma calling. Maybe nothing. Hope Oates has some success and doesn't want to leave
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What do you mean by "committing to basketball like the blue bloods do"? We can't re-imagine our history to anything close to the blue bloods, so are you talking facilities or what? Not saying you're wrong, but what can we really do besides pay the man?
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I get what you are saying about history and yes there's nothing we can do about that . Facilities , staff , NIL , scouting resources … basically … ask him what do you need to make us into a perennial power and then try to do best possible to deliver it ? Compared to football it's cheap and up to a point it pays for itself and then some. I know there's a limit to what we can do but the limit may be higher than we think it is . We're thirsty for a top level
Major sports title and sustained success and this could be the opportunity for it . To some degree maybe it's competitive with football funding but I'd argue it's not . There are a handful of schools that have the resources to be highly successful in multiple major sports and I believe we may be one of them. Michigan, Florida , LSU have done it to varying degrees . Granted LSU may be doing it at the expense of other more important things .

I get that sports titles aren't the goal of the institution but I also think that being good in multiple major sports is a positive towards furthering the goals of the institution. I'm also a big basketball fan so I just hate to see what may be very rare opportunity evaporate.






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I think the part that is interesting is they play fast regardless of what the last play was. There were two really bad turnovers on inbounds plays where Georgia cut the lead to 3 in the first half and one later in the game. However right after the composure and speed to get into the next set or play is super impressive. A&M may give up a quick layup but they will inbound the ball and get up court incredibly fast and efficient . It is kind of like we don't care what just happened good or bad we are moving forward which is amazing. The speed and confidence is truly fun to watch.
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agent-maroon said:

halfastros81 said:

Buckyball IS the whole package it seems. The only thing we can do to hold off blue blood overtures is commit to basketball like the blue bloods do. Show Bucky we can give him everything he needs to build his own blue blood program with his personal signature on it rather than the having the ghost of Rupp or Wooden or whoever … you get the picture. Leadership needs to understand it's not just about compensation.

I dunno what you can do about Momma calling. Maybe nothing. Hope Oates has some success and doesn't want to leave
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What do you mean by "committing to basketball like the blue bloods do"? We can't re-imagine our history to anything close to the blue bloods, so are you talking facilities or what? Not saying you're wrong, but what can we really do besides pay the man?

How about a commitment to marketing the basketball program to the state of Texas and putting butts in the seats? Totally doable and I refuse to believe we cannot sell out Reed arena every home game with:

1. Some effort and Marketing

2. A decent team that is fun to watch

Butts equals money, eye balls, market share, recruits, and wins. It helps a coach find a few more wins a season. It probably helps him decide to stay or go.

WE NEED TO MARKET THE HELL OUT OF TEXAS A&M BASKETBALL and BUCKYBALL!
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That's just a good start imo and that part should be ridiculously easy. We want our marketing department to be considered top tier so get their input and put it to work but do it with the coach heavily involved or at least give him the opportunity. Give the man the resources and he will probably deliver at high ROI.

Make it very very difficult for Bucky to believe he'd be better off anywhere else .
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I agree.
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Very much this. Reed can't wait to get packed until a big team shows up, or when people are done with football season.
Bucky has the ability into turning basketball into a can't miss event. Our fans need to realize this and show out without the excuses.
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Much like Bobinator's "yells and chants" thread. We need to have a tradition and "thing" for everyone to do during all the big plays at the game. Make it fun!

People show up to football 7 times a year and its an all day commitment.

People show up to baseball 25 times a year and its a 4 hour (and boring unless you're right next to the Raggies) commitment.


You would think we could get people to show up 15 times a year for basketball with a 2 hour commitment. Its literally marketing and a slight change in culture. Not that hard to do.
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Agree with the facilities, NIL, staffing, etc. Especially agree with the marketing push. This might not play well here on TA given our history, but we should do a study of what Tech has done to build their program. Lubbock is only slightly larger than BCS, but it's 300 miles from anything. We're an hour away from literally millions of potential fans and have way more money. We should be able to do better at anything & everything that they do only better.
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Maryland is 8-12
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I think the bigger "marketing" is to make the actual game environment better. A lot about our basketball situation is amateur hour compared to a lot of places. Fix that first, win games, and the crowds will show up.
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agent-maroon said:

Agree with the facilities, NIL, staffing, etc. Especially agree with the marketing push. This might not play well here on TA given our history, but we should do a study of what Tech has done to build their program. Lubbock is only slightly larger than BCS, but it's 300 miles from anything. We're an hour away from literally millions of potential fans and have way more money. We should be able to do better at anything & everything that they do only better.

Could run a few Shuttle buses from North Houston and add a few people for mid-week games.

Could run shuttle busses from Post Oak mall to get people to the games without them having to fight traffic.

Could get some actual food and restaurants around the arena to make it a "go to place" for weeknight games.


Make it easy to get to the arena!
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bobinator said:

I think the bigger "marketing" is to make the actual game environment better. A lot about our basketball situation is amateur hour compared to a lot of places. Fix that first, win games, and the crowds will show up.

How's that going? Have you gotten to talk with the yell leaders or anyone who can work on the Reed Rowdies?
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None of this is even Bucky dependent . It all sets you up for future success even if he leaves but this guy may be a once in a lifetime talent .
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Yeah that part will come together, theres only so much you do during the season, but there's bigger issues than that. But we just need a refresh on the whole in-game environment. Need some new ideas instead of just tweaking old ones.
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The traffic isn't that bad in my experience.
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This is probably an offseason thing but what about asking the players and coaches what they'd like to see from the stands ? What would make them smile? Might be something unexpected and unique that would come out of that . Maybe not but then again maybe so.


The team seems to have really embraced the whole full court press aspect of Buckyball not that they really have had a choice in the matter. That's a unique aspect of this style of play. What could fans do to show we have embraced it too?

Some variant of "Under Pressure" by Bowie and Queen from the stands might be appropriate. Just spitballing. Dum dum dum da da Dum Dum before opponent inbound until press broken or ball turned over . Better than just yelling ball… ball… ball … imho. Seems relatively easy to implement. Everyone knows the tune.
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The issue with many basketball games is they are during the week. If you analyze our attendance the weekend game are almost always full similar to football and baseball.

If you played football at 8pm on a Tuesday night you would not come close to filling the stadium or have tailgating that you have on the weekend. The way our campus and location is the weekday games are hard for people in Dallas, San Antonio, Austin and Houston
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agent-maroon said:

halfastros81 said:

Buckyball IS the whole package it seems. The only thing we can do to hold off blue blood overtures is commit to basketball like the blue bloods do. Show Bucky we can give him everything he needs to build his own blue blood program with his personal signature on it rather than the having the ghost of Rupp or Wooden or whoever … you get the picture. Leadership needs to understand it's not just about compensation.

I dunno what you can do about Momma calling. Maybe nothing. Hope Oates has some success and doesn't want to leave
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What do you mean by "committing to basketball like the blue bloods do"? We can't re-imagine our history to anything close to the blue bloods, so are you talking facilities or what? Not saying you're wrong, but what can we really do besides pay the man?


Pay him

Give top nil support to get the players he wants ts

Maybe build a new arena or other facilities if he wants them

Basically give him the resources he needs to be successful at the highest level, like Elko has from us

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Pack Reed and get Rowdy - at this point that's all Bucky has asked and most of that most of us can do. If the BMAs see success and enthusiasm, they will want to be a part of it and contribute. I would love to see basketball get to the level of football and baseball.
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They have done that a bit. But certainly that should be part of the conversation. But yeah it's just everything. Reed itself also sucks compared to a lot of places and there's only so much that can be done there.
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The sky seems to be the limit for this team and Bucky as a coach in general. The country may finally wake up and notice. The next 2 games will show us how they play against more talented teams. Frankly, we expect the same, right?

I can't help but also thinking about awesome kids looking to play on a team where they can get playing time. The combination of the style of play and A&M resources should attract a lot of talent. Bring us the talented cast offs!! Bucky'll coach 'em up!

Gig 'em!
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jeremy said:

agent-maroon said:

Agree with the facilities, NIL, staffing, etc. Especially agree with the marketing push. This might not play well here on TA given our history, but we should do a study of what Tech has done to build their program. Lubbock is only slightly larger than BCS, but it's 300 miles from anything. We're an hour away from literally millions of potential fans and have way more money. We should be able to do better at anything & everything that they do only better.

Could run a few Shuttle buses from North Houston and add a few people for mid-week games.

Could run shuttle busses from Post Oak mall to get people to the games without them having to fight traffic.

Could get some actual food and restaurants around the arena to make it a "go to place" for weeknight games.


Make it easy to get to the arena!

Traffic is not the issue. Last game i was almost the last one to leave the parking lot....took 25 minutes. This isn't football
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