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Here we go... The first of three games in the next four that are going to either cement our status as a real contender or not.

Their season so far:

- Nobody in college basketball has played a tougher schedule than the Crimson Tide. Everyone they've lost to is in the top 15 in the country with the exception of Texas. (Purdue, Gonzaga, Arizona, Vandy, Tennessee, Florida)
- Most of the teams that beat them did in large part because they killed Alabama on the offensive glass, this is their big weakness, but is it one we can exploit? The only teams that beat them and rebounded fewer than 40% of their misses are Vandy and Florida. Vandy did it by getting fouled a bunch, going 35/50(!!) at the FT line. Florida did it by having an absolutely insane turnover margin of 18-2, leading to a 25-0 edge in points off turnovers. Florida did also rebound close to 40% of their misses. 40% is a high number for us, but we've been close in a few games (above 35% against LSU, Auburn, South Carolina and Georgia.)
- Normally they do not turn the ball over (7th in the country in TO%) but they also do not usually force many turnovers (#356 in defensive turnover %)
- They are FAST, currently 7th in the country in tempo
- They're one of the few teams that shoots even more threes than we do, with a 53.2% three point rate, 3rd in the country.

Some individual notes:
- Alabama is a big team. Only one player on the roster that gets significant minutes that's under 6-3 is Holloway. Wrightsell and Philon are 6-3 and 6-4 and then everyone else is at least 6-5. So bad news, they're going to be long on defense which has been a bit of a problem for Dominguez and Griffin, but Lane and Hill have been really good at breaking down taller defenders off the dribble and turning that into a weakness.
- Everyone knows that a couple of weeks ago they added Charles Bediako to this roster. He's averaged 11 points and 5 boards since coming back and is a major problem around the basket.
- Holloway and Wrightsell are having incredibly shooting seasons, Holloway is currently second in the SEC in 3pt%. I think the key here though is Philon. When Philon has been limited, Alabama has struggled. One or two of these guys is going to go off, you have keep keep it from being all three of them.

On a more vibes-based than fact-based front, I think this is a team that can get frustrated during a game. Against Vandy they couldn't stop fouling, similar against Texas. Normally assist rate and three point rate are fairly correlated but this is a mediocre assist rate team despite being #2 nationally in three point rate.

This is going to be a tall order, but I think the path to victory here isn't that different from our normal game plan. Stay in the fight, annoy the **** out of them even if it leads to some easy baskets, don't just settle for threes, take good ones but also attack the basket, make free throws.

Unlike Florida where it's hard to find a path to victory that doesn't involve phrases like "unusually hot" or "has the game of his life" or something, I think Alabama can be beaten without anything too unusual happening.
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Bucky loves winning on the road. We get it done.
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We've gotten significantly better throughout our conference schedule so far. We went from barely beating LSU to taking Tennessee to go overtime to dominating Georgia on the road.

We've been dominating teams lately; I think we get the job done on the road.
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Alabama and Florida are working on two things. Beating the press, obviously, and don't let A&M speed up the game. Both are really hard to do against the Ags especially if we are hitting our shots.
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Get on them early! Get them frustrated and they start turning it over and jacking up dumb shots. Continuity and chemistry!! Throw in Bediako who many on the team were unfamiliar with along with the fact they they've had so many injuries and people in and out of the lineup. They're obviously talented, but can they play together and stick to a game plan for 40 minutes against a full court team! It'll be interesting!
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So difficult for me as a fan to not just ALWAYS WANT MORE.

It doesn't matter we are far exceeding my expectations, or really any reasonable expectation given the off season turnover, now that we are in first place I want them to keep a STRANGELHOLD on first place.

Alabama has lost 7 times (a third of their games) but I don't care to who, or how, if they can be beaten 7 times then by golly we can expect to beat them as well.

Fan talk.

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Bucky is going to really want to win this one. Hopefully an X factor
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I would imagine Coach is eager to tip this one off, back in his home state and against Oats.

I know I'm totally hyped to see how we fare against Bama, maybe we can take advantage of the body blows they took against Florida.
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Omperlodge said:

Alabama and Florida are working on two things. Beating the press, obviously, and don't let A&M speed up the game. Both are really hard to do against the Ags especially if we are hitting our shots.

I don't think either is particularly worried about speeding up the game. Alabama plays even faster than us and Florida isn't that far off the pace, they're also a pretty high tempo team.

I don't love that Florida's off date is this week, but Georgia had the same situation against us so can't complain about that too much.
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It seems like for Alabama, it'll be hard to force as many turnovers as we like, but that a good replacement for that will be getting them to each try to play hero ball and take bad shots with minimal passes per possession (preferably in transition so they won't be ready to offensive rebound)
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We just need to continue to play our game the way we've been playing it the last couple of weeks

Do that and we have a great shot to win
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NyAggie said:

We just need to continue to play our game the way we've been playing it the last couple of weeks

Do that and we have a great shot to win


This. It's funny, I normally love game strategy and scouting reports. This new system and this team especially seems to make opposing team scouting reports irrelevant. It's one of the few times a coach says "it's about us" isn't just coach speak.
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AgLA06 said:

NyAggie said:

We just need to continue to play our game the way we've been playing it the last couple of weeks

Do that and we have a great shot to win


This. It's funny, I normally love game strategy and scouting reports. This new system and this team especially seems to make opposing team scouting reports irrelevant. It's one of the few times a coach says "it's about us" isn't just coach speak.


Yep

Seems like the other teams have to game plan and strategize for us but we just go out there and do our thing
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I think we do a really good job with scouting, but Id be interested in how much of that is just building it into the game plan versus breaking down video of specific players.
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Awesome breakdown per usual. A few things:

I'm interested in seeing how we do with a guard like Philon in the press. He's someone who can bait traps/avoid triggering a trap and control his own tempo, which is the key to breaking this press consistently. That would slow down the entire Alabama offensive operation, so we'll see what plays out there.

You're going to see the difference in what playing hard actually means. The whole "blue collar basketball" schtick that bama has really pisses me off. They think they play hard. You'll see the difference.

I'm taking the Marie Kondo approach on Wednesday. Turd town is only an hour away, but I'm removing anything that does not bring me joy, which would be traveling to that god forsaken city.

I want this one bad.
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What's strange is I really liked Oats' first few Bama teams, but I hate this one.

They play with what you might call a false swagger. Remind me a little of Will Wade's LSU teams. In your face when things are going well but they don't handle pressure particularly well and can just absolutely fall apart sometimes.

They act like they want a fight but they don't really want to be in the fight all the time.
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bobinator said:

What's strange is I really liked Oats' first few Bama teams, but I hate this one.

They play with what you might call a false swagger. Remind me a little of Will Wade's LSU teams. In your face when things are going well but they don't handle pressure particularly well and can just absolutely fall apart sometimes.

They act like they want a fight but they don't really want to be in the fight all the time.

yep, this is certainly not the bama team that embarrassed us in the sec champ game a couple years ago
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You gonna make it over to College Station this season?
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I'll be there for the championship parade

Poor planning on my part this year and work keeping me close on the weekends. Will be making it a priority next season.
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They are big but we wont lose this game giving up 2 pt baskets in the paint. We will lise this game if Bama gets open looks from 3 pt range.
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There's no way we win this game right? It just starts to sound TOO ridiculous
Hardworking, Unselfish, Fearless
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The Ags have an impressive slate of SEC road wins, all over teams that are in the NCAAT in most brackets today, typically seeded 7 thru 10: at Aub, at t.u., and at UGA. Our lone loss was a game we blew at the FT line at likely 4 seed UT.

I believe that winning at Bama (now that they have their G League Dropout) will be our tallest order of the season so far.

Our wins so far in the road have been vs competition we'd see in round of 64. At Bama is round of 32 competition. Big level up.

We must keep Agee out of foul trouble or we are toast. With Bama's size, will need good minutes out of Vinson which has been a dicey proposition.
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At Bama is probably closer to second weekend than second round.
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Federiko or Vinson is gonna posterize Bediako I'm calling it #justice
Adam87inSA
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It could certainly work out that way. Most brackets have them a 4 or 5 seed now.
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buckyball34 said:

Awesome breakdown per usual. A few things:

I'm interested in seeing how we do with a guard like Philon in the press. He's someone who can bait traps/avoid triggering a trap and control his own tempo, which is the key to breaking this press consistently. That would slow down the entire Alabama offensive operation, so we'll see what plays out there.

You're going to see the difference in what playing hard actually means. The whole "blue collar basketball" schtick that bama has really pisses me off. They think they play hard. You'll see the difference.

I'm taking the Marie Kondo approach on Wednesday. Turd town is only an hour away, but I'm removing anything that does not bring me joy, which would be traveling to that god forsaken city.

I want this one bad.


That's awesome about the work ethic thing. I agree and dont see Bama as a hard working, blue collar team at all. Florida made them quit.

Not sure about what you wrote after that but I translated it to you hate Tuscaloosa?
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JJxvi said:

There's no way we win this game right? It just starts to sound TOO ridiculous


Yeah. But maybe…
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Auburn grad and faithful Bucky ex player should explain that .
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Keep making our free throws. Keep pressure on their guards and they wear out. We have the formula to win on the road.
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The dawg pack is coming.
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bobinator said:



They act like they want a fight but they don't really want to be in the fight all the time.


I like that.

Reminds me too of Musselman's Arkansas teams. Hard to keep your chests puffed out for too long without eventually deflating.
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Vandy is dwindling. Tennessee is hot and cold at best. The other losses (minus Texas) are respectable.
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bobinator said:

What's strange is I really liked Oats' first few Bama teams, but I hate this one.

They play with what you might call a false swagger. Remind me a little of Will Wade's LSU teams. In your face when things are going well but they don't handle pressure particularly well and can just absolutely fall apart sometimes.

They act like they want a fight but they don't really want to be in the fight all the time.

How on earth could you like the team with the accessory to murder on it??
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I'm talking about the way they played, not anything off the court. Just from a basketball standpoint.
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