First SEC school to appear. UK is the third lowest of the Big 5 schools:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/06/02/kentucky-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2381255/

102. Central Michigan - MAC
103. Miami (OH) - MAC
104. Texas State - Sun Belt
105. Hawaii - Mountain West
106. Army - Independent
107. Colorado State - Mountain West
108. New Mexico - Mountain West
109. Tulane - Conference USA/AAC
110. Illinois - B1G
111. Florida Atlantic - Conference USA
112. UTEP - Conference USA
113. North Texas - Conference USA
114. UNLV - Mountain West
115. Colorado - Pac 12
116. Memphis - AAC
117. Eastern Michigan - MAC
118. Florida International - Conference USA
119. UTSA - Conference USA
120. Akron - MAC
121. New Mexico State - Independent/Sun Belt
122. South Alabama - Sun Belt
123. Idaho - Independent/Sun Belt
124. UMass - MAC
125. Georgia State - Sun Belt

here is the preseason Top 25 coaches poll link

(6) SEC : #1 Alabama, #5 Georgia, #6 Texas A&M, #7 South Carolina, #10 Florida, #13 Louisiana State
(5) PAC : #3 Oregon, #4 Stanford, #21 UCLA, #24 Southern Cal, #25 Oregon State
(5) B1G : #2 Ohio State, #17 Michigan, #18 Nebraska, #22 Northwestern, and #23 Wisconsin
(4) B12 : #14 Oklahoma State, #15 Texas, #16 Oklahoma, and #20 TCU
(2) ACC : #8 Clemson and #12 Florida State
(1) IND : #11 Notre Dame
(1) AAC : #9 Louisville
(1) MWC : #19 Boise State



5 power conference schools only - 2012 Sagarin link - transition schools listed as OTR
Conference / School / 2012 record / Final Sagarin 2012 / USA Today 2013 / gain or loss

ACC : 0 / 3 / 3 / 3 / 3 : 00.0% / 25.0% / 25.0% / 25.0% / 25.0%
B1G : 1 / 2 / 2 / 3 / 4 : 08.3% / 16.7% / 16.7% / 25.0% / 33.3%
B12 : 0 / 2 / 2 / 2 / 4 : 00.0% / 20.0% / 20.0% / 20.0% / 40.0%
PAC : 1 / 2 / 2 / 4 / 3 : 08.3% / 16.7% / 16.7% / 33.3% / 25.0%
SEC : 1 / 1 / 4 / 2 / 6 : 07.1% / 07.1% / 28.6% / 14.3% / 42.9%
OTR : 0 / 2 / 1 / 0 / 2 : 00.0% / 40.0% / 20.0% / 00.0% / 40%


101 - 125
PAC 01 / Colorado / 1-11 / 156 / 115 / up 41 spots - new to PAC
B1G 01 / Illinois / 2-10 / 126 / 110 / up 16 spots
SEC 01 / Kentucky / 2-10 / 93 / 101 / down 8 spots

76 - 100
ACC 01 / Boston College / 2-10 / 113 / 100 / up 13 spots
B12 01 / Kansas / 1-11 / 98 / 96 / up 2 spots
PAC 02 / California / 3-9 / 78 / 95 / down 17 spots
PAC 03 / Washington State / 3-9 / 104 / 93 / up 11 spots
B1G 02 / Purdue / 6-7 / 71 / 89 / down 18 spots
B12 02 / Iowa State / 6-7 / 55 / 87 / down 32 spots
ACC 02 / Duke / 6-7 / 73 / 86 / down 13 spots
OTR 01 / Pittsburgh / 6-7 / 59 / 84 / down 25 spots (ACC bound fall 2013)
SEC 02 / Arkansas / 4-8 / 65 / 83 / down 18 spots
OTR 02 / Syracuse / 8-5 / 38 / 81 / down 43 spots (ACC bound fall 2013)
ACC 03 / Virginia / 4-8 / 87 / 78 / up 9 spots
B1G 03 / Minnesota / 6-7 / 68 / 77 / down 9 spots

51 - 75
B1G 04 / Indiana / 4-8 / 76 / 73 / up 3 spots
ACC 04 / Wake Forest / 5-7 / 109 / 72 / up 37 spots
B1G 05 / Iowa / 4-8 / 70 / 69 / up 1 spot
B12 03 / Texas Tech / 8-5 / 37 / 68 / down 31 spots
ACC 05 / Maryland / 4-8 / 101 / 66 / up 35 spots (B1G bound fall 2014)
SEC 03 / Mississippi State / 8-5 / 42 / 64 / down 22 spots
SEC 04 / Tennessee / 5-7 / 56 / 62 / down 6 spots
PAC 04 / Utah / 5-7 / 61 / 61 / no change - new to PAC
SEC 05 / Missouri / 5-7 / 40 / 58 / down 18 spots - new to SEC
B12 04 / West Virginia / 7-6 / 48 / 57 / down 9 spots - new to B12
SEC 06 / Auburn / 3-9 / 81 / 56 / up 25 spots
OTR 03 / Rutgers / 9-4 / 53 / 54 / down 1 spot (B1G bound fall 2014)
ACC 06 / North Carolina State / 7-6 / 64 / 53 / up 11 spots
PAC 05 / Arizona / 8-5 / 44 / 51 / down 7 spots

26 - 50
SEC 07 / Mississippi / 7-6 / 24 / 47 / down 23 spots
ACC 07 / North Carolina / 8-4 / 43 / 45 / down 2 spots
PAC 06 / Arizona State / 8-5 / 28 / 43 / down 15 spots
PAC 07 / Washington / 7-6 / 52 / 41 / up 11 spots
SEC 08 / Vanderbilt / 9-4 / 25 / 38 / down 13 spots
B1G 06 / Penn State / 8-4 / 30 / 37 / down 7 spots
PAC 08 / Oregon State / 9-4 / 15 / 36 / down 21 spots
ACC 08 / Georgia Tech / 7-7 / 46 / 35 / up 11 spots
B12 05 / Baylor / 8-5 / 18 / 33 / down 15 spots
B1G 07 / Wisconsin / 8-6 / 23 / 31 / down 8 spots
PAC 09 / UCLA / 9-5 / 31 / 30 / up 1 spot
B12 06 / Texas Christian / 7-6 / 32 / 29 / up 3 spots
ACC 09 / Miami (FL) / 7-5 / 49 / 28 / up 21 spots
B1G 08 / Michigan State / 7-6 / 34 / 27 / up 7 spots

1 - 25
B12 07 / Kansas State / 11-2 / 8 / 24 / down 16 spots
ACC 10 / Virginia Tech / 7-6 / 54 / 23 / up 31 spots
B1G 09 / Northwestern / 10-3 / 21 / 22 / down 1 spot
B12 08 / Oklahoma State / 8-5 / 17 / 20 / down 3 spots
PAC 10 / Southern Cal / 7-6 / 33 / 19 / up 14 spots
B1G 10 / Michigan / 8-5 / 20 / 18 / up 2 spots
SEC 09 / Louisiana State / 10-3 / 10 / 17 / down 7 spots
OTR 04 / Louisville / 11-2 / 27 / 16 / up 11 spots
B12 09 / Oklahoma / 10-3 / 12 / 15 / down 3 spots
SEC 10 / Florida / 11-2 / 7 / 14 / down 7 spots
OTR 05 / Notre Dame / 12-1 / 5 / 13 / down 12 spots
B12 10 / Texas / 9-4 / 16 / 12 / up 4 spots
B1G 11 / Nebraska / 10-4 / 22 / 11 / up 11 spots
ACC 11 / Clemson / 11-2 / 14 / 10 / up 4 spots
ACC 12 / Florida State / 12-2 / 11 / 8 / up 3 spots
SEC 11 / Texas A&M / 11-2 / 3 / 7 / down 4 spots
SEC 12 / Georgia / 12-2 / 4 / 6 / down 2 spots
SEC 13 / South Carolina / 11-2 / 6 / 5 / up 1 spot
PAC 11 / Oregon / 12-1 / 2 / 4 / down 2 spots
B1G 12 / Ohio State / 12-0 / 13 / 3 / up 10 spots
PAC 12 / Stanford / 12-2 / 9 / 2 / up 7 spots
SEC 14 / Alabama / 13-1 / 1 / 1 / unchanged

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College football countdown | No. 83: Arkansas

Second SEC school to appear on the list. In the bottom 42, there are 3 ACC, 3 Pac 12, 2 Big 12, 2 B1G, and 2 SEC now

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/06/19/arkansas-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2439375/

84. Pittsburgh - ACC
85. Kent State - MAC
86. Duke - ACC
87. Iowa State - Big 12
88. Temple - AAC
89. Purdue - B1G
90. Wyoming - Mountain West
91. UAB - Conference USA
92. Connecticut - AAC
93. Washington State - Pac 12
94. Rice - Conference USA
95. California - Pac 12
96. Kansas - Big 12
97. Troy - Sun Belt
98. Western Michigan - MAC
99. SMU - AAC
100. Boston College - ACC

The issue you have is they are just going down each conference and rotating schools but show they favor the Big 12 and ACC by strength as they are last to appear with their first entrant. Since the SEC has been so dominant that should flip by the time they get to #1 but does not truly reflect the depth of the SEC because their bottom schools are probably better than the bottom schools in other conferences.

PAC 01 = 115 - new to PAC
B1G 01 = 110
SEC 01 = 101
ACC 01 = 100
B12 01 = 96
19 team gap between first Big 5 (PAC) and last Big 5 (B12)

PAC 02 = 95
B1G 02 = 89
B12 02 = 87
ACC 02 = 86
SEC 02 = 83
12 team gap between first Big 5 (PAC) and last Big 5 (SEC)

PAC 03 = 93
ACC 03 = 78
B1G 03 = 77
B12 03 = 68
SEC 03 = 64
29 team gap between first Big 5 (PAC) and last Big 5 (SEC)

B1G 04 = 73
ACC 04 = 72
SEC 04 = 62
PAC 04 = 61 - new to PAC
B12 04 = 57 - new to B12
16 team gap between first Big 5 (B1G) and last Big 5 (B12)

B1G 05 = 69
ACC 05 = 66 (B1G in 2014)
SEC 05 = 58 - new to SEC
PAC 05 = 51
B12 05 = 33
36 team gap between first Big 5 (B1G) and last Big 5 (B12)

SEC 06 = 56
ACC 06 = 53
PAC 06 = 43
B1G 06 = 37
B12 06 = 29
27 team gap between first Big 5 (SEC) and last Big 5 (B12)

SEC 07 = 47
ACC 07 = 45
PAC 07 = 41
B1G 07 = 31
B12 07 = 24
23 team gap between first Big 5 (SEC) and last Big 5 (B12)

SEC 08 = 38
PAC 08 = 36
ACC 08 = 35
B1G 08 = 27
B12 08 = 20
18 team gap between first Big 5 (SEC) and last Big 5 (B12)

PAC 09 = 30
ACC 09 = 28
B1G 09 = 22
SEC 09 = 17
B12 09 = 15
15 team gap between first Big 5 (PAC) and last Big 5 (B12)

ACC 10 = 23
PAC 10 = 19
B1G 10 = 18
SEC 10 = 14
B12 10 = 12
11 team gap between first Big 5 (ACC) and last Big 5 (B12)

B1G 11 = 11
ACC 11 = 10
SEC 11 = 7
PAC 11 = 4
7 team gap between first Big 5 (B1G) and last Big 5 (PAC)

ACC 12 = 8
SEC 12 = 6
B1G 12 = 3
PAC 12 = 2
6 team gap between first Big 5 (ACC) and last Big 5 (PAC)

SEC 13 = 5

SEC 14 = 1

OTR 01 = 84 (ACC bound this season)
OTR 02 = 81 (ACC bound this season)
OTR 03 = 54 (B1G bound fall 2014)
OTR 04 = 16 (ACC bound next season)
OTR 05 = 13 (ACC 1/2 schedule)

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College football countdown | No. 64: Mississippi State

third SEC team to appear. There are already 7 ACC, 5 B1G, 3 Big12, and 3 Pac12 teams. Check KM's post for rankings by conference

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/05/mississippi-state-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2489815/

65. Louisiana-Monroe - Sun Belt
66. Maryland - ACC
67. Air Force - Mountain West
68. Texas Tech - Big 12
69. Iowa - B1G
70. San Jose State - Mountain West
71. Houston - AAC
72. Wake Forest - ACC
73. Indiana - B1G
74. Buffalo - MAC
75. Western Kentucky - Sun Belt
76. Nevada - Mountain West
77. Minnesota - B1G
78. Virginia - ACC
79. Middle Tennessee State - Conference USA
80. South Florida - AAC
81. Syracuse -ACC
82. Southern Miss - Conference USA



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KM,

I am just curious as to why you aren't counting Pitt/Syracuse as ACC in your second post? The ACC lineup for '13 now has 5 teams listed out of 14. Thanks for the updates, btw. I've always enjoyed your insight

I was trying to account that the talking heads are usually wrong when it comes to the adjustments. I said TCU, WVU, and Mizzou would have some extra losses moving to their new conferences. Maybe it is just I have been around long enough to see this before but neither FSU or PSU got another MNC when left IND status for the confines of a 11 or 12 team conference. Miami won all those MNC's but have struggled in the ACC and it is not exactly the top of the 5 remaining conferences.

I think Maryland and Rutgers will struggle their first years in the B1G but the ACC will be more challenging for Notre Dame, Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville. I really believe the ACC will be the final home for the Irish even if they do not believe it just yet. With all this in mind it was more a way to segment the "transition" schools until they have at least one season under their belt in their new home.

Except for A&M, show me where one recent transfer did better in their new home?

Colorado : 5-7 (2-6) to 3-10 (2-7) = 2 game drop
Utah : 10-3 (7-1) to 8-5 (4-5) = 2 games drop
Missouri : 8-5 (5-4) to 5-7 (2-6) = 3 game drop
Texas A&M : 7-6 (4-5) to 11-2 (6-2) = 4 game gain
Nebraska : 10-4 (6-2) to 9-4 (5-3) = 1 game drop
West Virginia : 10-3 (5-2) to 7-6 (4-5) = 3 game drop
TCU : 11-2 (7-0) to 7-6 (4-5) = 4 game drop

Even tho the things fell well for A&M a game or 2 goes different and that 10-2 season winds up 8-4. Ole Miss and La Tech were 2 games in particular but the thing I really noticed was A&M did not shut out 1 opponent last year. A&M will go from underdog to target next season and it could easily result in a 2 game swing the other way.

this will be a very interesting season, especially with the more intense scrutiny that will come with that target.
In addition to Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, I can see Auburn and Arkansas being much improved and presenting challenges in '13. Both schools have talented teams and new coaches - a situation similar to our own last year.
With regards to our 4 game gain, not only did we have fortune on our side in a few games last year, but we also seemed to get all the unlucky breaks in'12. Had either season gone just a tad differently, we could've very easily been looking at a push or drop situation in our first season in a new league. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for the year we had and hope we continue the winning ways here in Aggieland

What is wrong with this picture?

101 Kentucky
83 Arkansas
64 Mississippi State
62 Tennessee
?? Auburn : Washington State / Arkansas State / Mississippi State /@ LSU / Ole Miss / Western Carolina / @ Texas A&M / Florida Atlantic / @ Arkansas / @ Tennessee / Georgia / Alabama

Of the 5 teams Auburn has the hardest time getting to 6-6 yet they are ahead of the other 4? Auburn can go 0-8 in conference. Course I can see Missouri at the bottom of the SEC East in 2013 and they have not shown up so far either.

My feelings are

Contenders
East = UGA / UF / USC
West = UAT / A&M / LSU

Middle
East = VU / UT / UK
West = MSU / OM / UAF

Cellar
East = MU
West = AU


[This message has been edited by Kentucky Mustangs (edited 7/6/2013 4:22a).]

Interesting as we are at the Top 50 where they think the conferences will be. Maybe I am a bit of a slow coach but the B12 is doing far too well at this point when you think :

a) 4 of their top 6 historic teams left the conference including #2 Nebraska
b) B12 plays a cakewalk OOC schedule (40% do not even play a power conference school)
c) OU MNC = 2001, tu MNC = 2006, and other 8 (80%) do not have a BCS MNC
d) B12 no longer plays a CCG
e) 4 exiting teams are still in the Big 5 while 2 entering teams came from lower conferences.

SEC : 6 / 8 = 43% < Top 50 and 57% = Top 50 : 60% of BCS MNC wins
B12 : 4 / 6 = 40% < Top 50 and 60% = Top 50 : ~ 13% of BCS MNC wins
B1G : 5 / 7 = 42% < Top 50 and 58% = Top 50 : ~ 6.75% of BCS MNC wins
OTR : 3 / 2 = 60% < Top 50 and 40% = Top 50 : ~ 6.75% of BCS MNC wins
ACC : 6 / 6 = 50% < Top 50 and 50% = Top 50 : ~ 6.75% of BCS MNC wins
PAC : 5 / 7 = 42% < Top 50 and 58% = Top 50 : ~ 6.75% of BCS MNC wins (vacated)

Based on the perception (B12 = SEC or B12 > SEC) you would think the B12 will win every other MNC in the next decade or so when the reality may not see them win 1 in the same time frame. Hard to believe the B12 is held so high when the post season last year indicates decline, not rise.

last season's bowl games by conference
(9) SEC went 6–3 for 66.7% and (7) teams (28%) in the final AP poll
(6) ACC went 4–2 for 66.7% and (2) teams (8%) in the final AP poll
(8) PAC went 4-4 for 50.0% and (3) teams (12%) in the final AP poll
(8) BE + IND went 4-4 for 50.0% and (2) teams (8%) in the final AP poll
(23) OTR went 11-12 for 47.8% and (4) teams (16%) in the final AP poll
(9) B12 went 4-5 for 44.4% and (3) teams (12%) in the final AP poll
(7) B1G went 2-5 for 28.6% and (4) teams (16%) in the final AP poll



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10Aggie10,

As of where we are right now the media (at least USA Today) is still treating the B12 as a top power conference even tho the 2 they gained were no where near the 4 they lost. It is like a mass delusional drug that may take several more years of B12 failure to actually sink in.

The fact that 50, 49, 48, and 46 were all outside the Big 5 and yet they are still slow to better disperse B12 schools through the whole list of 125 seem most telling in perception overpowering reality by media pundits. The PAC is probably a solid #2 behind the SEC and the B1G may be as well (especially as Notre Dame beat Oklahoma last season @ Norman) so the reality may be that the B12 is battling the ACC for last place. However, USA Today / Sagarin seems to support the opposite view.

Very frustrating, especially when this is all we have to go with this fall :

Baylor - does not play a Big 5 school in regular season
Iowa State - mid to low level B12 school plays mid to low level B1G school
Kansas - does not play a Big 5 school in regular season
Kansas State - does not play a Big 5 school in regular season
Oklahoma - Only real Top 25 game the B12 plays OOC (@ Notre Dame)
Oklahoma State - 2nd tier B12 plays 2nd - 3rd tier SEC
TCU - plays LSU in JerryWorld but TCU flopped last season. Could be a blowout
tu - 1st tier B12 plays 2nd - 3rd tier SEC
Texas Tech - does not play a Big 5 school in regular season
West Virginia - plays a 3rd tier ACC school (Terps) but dropped the top tier (FSU) game in the B12 move

Viewed by the USA Today metric :
Oklahoma vs Notre Dame (neither have appeared yet in USA Today)
TCU vs LSU (neither have appeared yet in USA Today)
Texas (not listed yet) vs Ole Miss (#47)
Oklahoma State (not listed yet) vs Mississippi State (#64)
West Virginia (#57) vs Maryland (#66)
Iowa State (#87) vs Iowa (#69)



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College football countdown | No. 47: Ole Miss
College football countdown | No. 56: Auburn
College football countdown | No. 58: Missouri
College football countdown | No. 62: Tennessee

The poll has been busy-busy while I've been away, but KM has been keeping everyone updated with the latest. There have been 4 new SEC additions, but no new Texas teams. Gaps indicate an SEC team, which are all listed at the top of the post. As always, check out KM's posts to see a conference-by-conference breakdown and to enjoy his excellent insight.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/19/mississippi-ole-miss-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2552639/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/11/auburn-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2506257/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/10/missouri-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2502901/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/06/tennessee-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2493391/

46. Ball State - MAC

48. San Diego State - Mountain West
49. Louisiana - Sun Belt
50. East Carolina - Conference USA
51. Arizona - Pac 12
52. Bowling Green - MAC
53. NC State - ACC
54. Rutgers - AAC
55. Arkansas State - Sun Belt

57. West Virginia - Big 12

59. Utah State - Mountain West
60. Navy - Independent
61. Utah - Pac 12

63. Louisiana Tech - Conference USA

KM,

my ears must've been burning as it appears I was posting while you were clicking submit. I didn't even see your most recent post, at first.

It's unfortunate that so many bdf schools play no Big 5 games (BU, TTU, KU, KSU) while several play middle-to-lower tier Big 5 schools. With the teams starting so high in the rankings, only a misstep would cause them to fall early. My guess is this means we'll see several teams go 3-0 in non-conference again, as media-types will trumpet their 26-4 (or something like that) non-conference record. The 9-game, full round robin will both help and hurt, right? It will hurt in the fact that all of these average teams will beat each other, causing none to finish in the top 5, but it will also help because there will be several "top 25" games early in conference.

The "biggest" non-conference game might be Mississippi State vs Oklahoma State. Iowa vs ISU and WVU vs Maryland are both clashes of mediocre teams (#87 vs #69 & #57 vs #66). While losses by the bdf in these games would hurt, they are currently considered bottom four conference teams. That Miss St game is big because it pits the #64 team against a potentially top 20 team (and the pre-season pick for the conference crown!). A loss here could do the most damage to the conference's national credibility. An Ole Miss W on the road in Austin wins honorable mention as the next biggest game, in these terms. Obviously, OU vs ND and LSU vs TCU are the biggest headliner games, but I get the feeling that these are "losses" by the Big 12 as it stands now and if they win then it will get media coverage as a big upset. But maybe, that speaks best to the current state of affairs in this regional league...their triumphs are akin to Boise State over OU or Utah over Alabama...just a surprise from an otherwise mediocre league

Down to the final 40, and too many B12 and B1G schools left

B12 : 0 / 2 / 2 / ? / ? - 6 left = 60%
B1G : 1 / 2 / 2 / ? / ? - 7 left = 50%
SEC : 1 / 1 / 4 / 1 / ? - 7 left = 50%
ACC : 0 / 3 / 3 / 1 / ? - 5 left = 42%
PAC : 0 / 3 / 3 / 1 / ? - 5 left = 42%
OTR : 0 / 2 / 1 / ? / ? - 2 left = 40%

I find it amusing that USA Today will be releasing their coaches' preseason top 25 tomorrow and yet they're still on #39 in their 125 to 1 countdown.

Unless my math is terrible, the first game is in 28 days...so I don't know how the reveals are going to go down. I had originally anticipated the remaining teams=number of days til kickoff. but whadda i know

What I find more startling...

(4) teams = (1) PAC : #115 / (1) B1G : #110 / (1) SEC : #101 / (1) ACC : #100
B12 #1 = 96
(3) teams = (2) PAC : #95 and #93 / (1) B1G : #89
B12 #2 = 87
(9) teams = (3) ACC : #86, #78, and #72 / (3) B1G : #77, #73, and #69 / (2) OTR : #81 and #84 / (1) SEC : #83
B12 #3 = 68
(5) teams = (3) SEC : #64, #62, and #58 / (1) ACC : #66 / (1) PAC : #61
B12 #4 = 57 - new to B12
(12) teams = (4) PAC : #51, #43, #41, and 36 / (3) SEC : #56, #47, and #38 / (3) ACC : #53, #45, and #35 / (1) OTR : #54 / (1) B1G : #37
B12 #5 = 33
(2) teams = (1) B1G : #31 / (1) PAC : #30
B12 #6 = 29
(2) teams = (1) ACC : #28 / (1) B1G : #27
B12 #7 = 24
(2) teams = (1) ACC : #23 / (1) B1G 09 : #22
B12 #8 = 20
(4) teams = (1) PAC : #19 / (1) B1G : #18 / (1) SEC : #17 / (1) OTR : #16
B12 #9 = 15
(2) teams = (1) SEC : #14 / (1) OTR : 13
B12 #10 = 12
(10) teams = (4) SEC : #7, #6, #5, and #1, (2) PAC : #4 and #2, (2) B1G : #11 and #3, (2) ACC : #10 and # 8

What exactly did the B1G and B12 do last year to warrant so many teams this high up this fall? SEC, ACC, and PAC all finished at .500 or better in their bowl games. B1G and B12 finished below yet they have far too many teams left to warrant such lofty rankings.

B12 scheduling lame OOC games means they could all start 3-0 but that still does not make any of them good.

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College football countdown | No. 38: Vanderbilt

are the b12 private schools really better than the SEC private school? me-thinks not. but apparently according to this countdown, they both are...smh

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/08/01/vanderbilt-college-football-countdown-2013-preview/2609845/

39. Ohio - MAC
40. Marshall - Conference USA
41. Washington - Pac 12
42. Central Florida - AAC
43. Arizona State - Pac 12
44. Toledo - MAC
45. North Carolina - ACC

College football countdown | No. 17: LSU

Only 16 teams left in USA Today's countdown from 124 to 1. The bayou bengals show up today at #17. The first team to appear in almost three weeks, since Vandy at #38. Without further ado...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2013/08/20/lsu-2013-preview-college-football-countdown/2675207/


18. Michigan State - B1G
19. USC - Pac 12
20. Oklahoma State - Big 12
21. Northern Illinois - MAC
22. Northwestern - B1G
23. Virginia Tech - ACC
24. Kansas State - Big 12
25. Fresno State - Mountain West
26. Tulsa - Conference USA
27. Michigan State - B1G
28. Miami(FL) - ACC
29. TCU - Big 12
30. UCLA - Pac 12
31. Wisconsin - B1G
32. BYU - Independent
33. Baylor - Big 12
34. Cincinnati - AAC
35. Georgia Tech - ACC
36. Oregon State - Pac 12
37. Penn St - B1G



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College football countdown | No. 7: Texas A&M
College football countdown | No. 14: Florida

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2013/08/26/texas-am-2013-preview-college-football-countdown/2702559/http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/08/21/florida-2013-preview-college-football-countdown/2682841/

8. Florida State - ACC
9. Boise State - Mountain West
10. Clemson - ACC
11. Nebraska - B1G
12. Texas - Big 12
13. Notre Dame - Independent

15. Oklahoma - Big 12
16. Louisville - AAC/ACC

Assuming that A&M moved out of the Lone Star State:

- the three SEC-B12 nonconference games will all take place in "Big 12 territory".

- #29 TCU vs #17 LSU @ Cowboys Stadium, a stone's throw from Fort Worth. Also, the stadium should be predominantly purple so it will be a Horned Frog crowd (tongue in cheek)

- #20 Oklahoma State vs #64 Mississippi State @ Texans' Reliant Stadium

-#12 Texas vs #47 Ole Miss in Austin @ DKR.

AND these are all three in the top 5 nonconference games for that dumpster fire conference

Top 50 by % of conference :

B 12 = 60.0% : 2 of 15 BCS MNC wins = 13.3%
B1G = 58.3% : 1 of 15 BCS MNC wins = 6.7%
PAC = 58.3% : 0 of 15 BCS MNC wins = 0.0%
SEC = 57.1% : 9 of 15 BCS MNC wins = 60.0% ******** How is the SEC in the 4th spot?
ACC = 50.0% : 1 of 15 BCS MNC wins = 6.7%
OTR = 40.0% : 0 of 15 BCS MNC wins = 0.0%



19 team gap between first 01 Big 5 (PAC) and last 01 Big 5 (B12)
12 team gap between first 02 Big 5 (PAC) and last 02 Big 5 (SEC)
29 team gap between first 03 Big 5 (PAC) and last 03 Big 5 (SEC)
16 team gap between first 04 Big 5 (B1G) and last 04 Big 5 (B12)
36 team gap between first 05 Big 5 (B1G) and last 05 Big 5 (B12)
27 team gap between first 06 Big 5 (SEC) and last 06 Big 5 (B12)
23 team gap between first 07 Big 5 (SEC) and last 07 Big 5 (B12)
18 team gap between first 08 Big 5 (SEC) and last 08 Big 5 (B12)
15 team gap between first 09 Big 5 (PAC) and last 09 Big 5 (B12)
11 team gap between first 10 Big 5 (ACC) and last 10 Big 5 (B12)
7 team gap between first 11 Big 5 (B1G) and last 11 Big 5 (PAC)
6 team gap between first 12 Big 5 (ACC) and last 12 Big 5 (PAC)



Big 12 looks like they get treated like they are winning at the very top in the same way the SEC is yet actual games do not bear this out.