Just curious why these share a forum instead of having their own?
Same Forum for Baseball & Softball
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Because the softball board would basically be dead other than the ongoing game thread.
Softball has it's own forum after the ladies made a run at the NC (2000s?), but the forum simply did not have enough activity to warrant it's own real estate. With the new coach in place, I hope she develops the program enough that it is finally warranted.
[SOFTBALL WAS GROUP IN THE OTHER SPORTS FORUM, IN THE WORLD SERIES RUN, SOFTBALL WAS ADDED TO THE TITLE IN THE BASEBALL FORUM. NEITHER GENERATES ENOUGH ACTIVITY FOR SEPARATE FORUMS. THE ONLY TIME THE FORUM IS REALLY HOPING IS MAY & JUNE. -STAFF]
[SOFTBALL WAS GROUP IN THE OTHER SPORTS FORUM, IN THE WORLD SERIES RUN, SOFTBALL WAS ADDED TO THE TITLE IN THE BASEBALL FORUM. NEITHER GENERATES ENOUGH ACTIVITY FOR SEPARATE FORUMS. THE ONLY TIME THE FORUM IS REALLY HOPING IS MAY & JUNE. -STAFF]
They need to be separate. Even if there are just 20 posters in that forum, they shouldn't have to sift through baseball threads all day.
This comes up every year
Muy said:
They need to be separate. Even if there are just 20 posters in that forum, they shouldn't have to sift through baseball threads all day.
Leaving them together gives softball more visibility. I usually follow the softball thread but wouldn't go over it to a softball forum.
The bigger issue is that women should play baseball instead of softball, a sport invented to be baseball without all of the running around (same number of defenders covering lots less ground).
I had a great aunt who played baseball in New Orleans in the 1940s. If we had a women's baseball team, I'd actually watch it.
I had a great aunt who played baseball in New Orleans in the 1940s. If we had a women's baseball team, I'd actually watch it.
Softball is definitely an inferior game.
It did? I remember a lot of traffic about those teams in the early '00s but I remember them as part of the Baseball Board.Agsncws said:
Softball has it's own forum after the ladies made a run at the NC (2000s?), but the forum simply did not have enough activity to warrant it's own real estate. With the new coach in place, I hope she develops the program enough that it is finally warranted.
I think this year's run by the ladies shows there really not enough traffic to justify a separate board for softball. Sure it sorta sucks for them that it gets lost among the baseball posts but it is what it is.
They more or less handle it this year by having a season thread like the Other Baseball Board has season threads for the 'Stros, Rangers. Cubs, Orioles, Braves, etc.Muy said:
They need to be separate. Even if there are just 20 posters in that forum, they shouldn't have to sift through baseball threads all day.
Sea Pony 07 said:
Because the softball board would basically be dead other than the ongoing game thread.
Soccer has a board and 98% of it is all soccer but Aggie Soccer. Get all that crap off the Soccer board and share that one with Softball.
Ghost of Bisbee said:
This comes up every year
This comes up every year for a reason…because nobody thinks it's a good idea for the boards to be combined. Well I guess somebody thinks it's a good idea because this is currently the way it is, but they clearly appear to be in the minority.
You would still need a futbol forum for "all that crap." You might get a TexAgs soccer "riot" if you took away that board from the die hard soccer fans.
powerbelly said:Muy said:
They need to be separate. Even if there are just 20 posters in that forum, they shouldn't have to sift through baseball threads all day.
Leaving them together gives softball more visibility. I usually follow the softball thread but wouldn't go over it to a softball forum.
I am just thinking more about the softball posters. If they don't want to use just one thread, the others will quickly fall off the baseball page.
powerbelly said:
Softball is definitely an inferior game.
I wouldn't say "inferior game" as I love the game when I start watching it in the post season. Definitely inferior as far as fan support for sure.
It isn't about having too many forums presenting any additional maintenance/expense/etc. They are using the baseball board to promote softball. I don't ever remember softball having it's own board. It's entirely possible that it did, and I've forgotten, but it isn't happening again.
If you move it to its own board, you get the diehard fans, but lose the casual fans. As a casual fan of the softball team I certainly prefer it this way but understand the argument to change it. Unfortunately, there probably isn't enough traffic to have a softball only board so it would be relegated to the Other sports board with Track, tennis, volleyball, etc.
dabo man said:
It isn't about having too many forums presenting any additional maintenance/expense/etc. They are using the baseball board to promote softball. I don't ever remember softball having it's own board. It's entirely possible that it did, and I've forgotten, but it isn't happening again.
It did used to have its own board. In the long ago.
I want to say it merged in '08… maybe '09.
What does this mean? We're not talking about real estate here - there's unlimited space.themissinglink said:
If you move it to its own board, you get the diehard fans, but lose the casual fans. As a casual fan of the softball team I certainly prefer it this way but understand the argument to change it. Unfortunately, there probably isn't enough traffic to have a softball only board so it would be relegated to the Other sports board with Track, tennis, volleyball, etc.
IIRC the justification for the merge was to get more eyes on softball threads by baseball folks who didn't go to the Softball board.
Ever heard of internet traffic?RARay said:What does this mean? We're not talking about real estate here - there's unlimited space.themissinglink said:
If you move it to its own board, you get the diehard fans, but lose the casual fans. As a casual fan of the softball team I certainly prefer it this way but understand the argument to change it. Unfortunately, there probably isn't enough traffic to have a softball only board so it would be relegated to the Other sports board with Track, tennis, volleyball, etc.
If you clutter up the site with hundreds of forums, it's hard to find the topic you would like to discuss and people you want to interact with. It would detract from the site.
I'm not against a softball only forum, but I would probably never visit it and would have less knowledge of what's going on.
During the season, the softball thread was a fixture on the first page. It's just that we've seen some unprecedented attention on our baseball program lately, and the number of threads has exploded. Give it a month or so and things will calm down.Muy said:powerbelly said:Muy said:
They need to be separate. Even if there are just 20 posters in that forum, they shouldn't have to sift through baseball threads all day.
Leaving them together gives softball more visibility. I usually follow the softball thread but wouldn't go over it to a softball forum.
I am just thinking more about the softball posters. If they don't want to use just one thread, the others will quickly fall off the baseball page.
There is a lot of excitement around our softball program, and there will be more threads during the season when things fire back up. Also, I appreciate having both in the same place so I can see news on softball that I wouldn't necessarily see if I had to click on a new board.
Not that it is worse or inferior but despite its many similarities it is a different game just like rugby and football.Muy said:powerbelly said:
Softball is definitely an inferior game.
I wouldn't say "inferior game" as I love the game when I start watching it in the post season. Definitely inferior as far as fan support for sure.
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I'm intrigued by softball and will watch it. One big thing is ... how in the world do those pitchers throw so hard with that motion? I've tried to replicate it and it feels so unnatural. Hats off to them for that talent!
Well for one that second Gif is an illegal pitch, they are not allowed to leap forward like that with both feet leaving the ground together. But otherwise typical softball pitches are not nearly as hard as baseball pitches. Even top male fastpitch pitchers are not hitting 90 to 100 mph on a pitch period, much less regularly. Second the mound is considerably closer to the hitter in softball versus baseball. So the hitter has less time to find and react to the ball even though it is moving slower and is larger.
Just a suggestion, but could we create a board for all other Aggie sports/teams? Right now we have a Texas A&M Soccer board that has all pro soccer that dominates the board. Then we have an Other Sports board that hosts a wide range of sports/teams. Would be nice to have just an Aggie Sports/teams board for all Aggie teams that don't generate enough activity to have their own board.
I was about to say sticky this since it's an annual discussionGhost of Bisbee said:
This comes up every year
I'm pretty sure this past season the NCAA remove the "crow hop" rule that prevented pitchers from having both feet off the ground simultaneously.ShouldastayedataTm said:
Well for one that second Gif is an illegal pitch, they are not allowed to leap forward like that with both feet leaving the ground together. But otherwise typical softball pitches are not nearly as hard as baseball pitches. Even top male fastpitch pitchers are not hitting 90 to 100 mph on a pitch period, much less regularly. Second the mound is considerably closer to the hitter in softball versus baseball. So the hitter has less time to find and react to the ball even though it is moving slower and is larger.
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Softball should have its own folder, or forum as it is called here.
Just because football is more popular than volleyball does not mean we should bury the 'minor' sport or sports.
Indeed, each Aggie sport should have its own forum. The players are all Texas Aggies, regardless of sport. Regardless of mens or womens sports. The site is TexAgs. If a person wants to check out stuff on Aggie soccer he or she should not have to scroll through posts on every soccer team, league, etc. in the world. Many pages of them. For Aggies who like 'other' soccer there could be a forum called 'Soccer - Other' in addition to 'Texas Aggie Soccer'.
The women's tennis and golf teams were very successful this year. Equestrian, too. National champions. All three sports. To find new information on them (has been coaching changes, transfers, etc.) have to scroll through a LOT of posts to find 'their' threads.
Should be one for each 'team' listed on the 12thman.com website under 'teams'. Should not matter if some do not get as much traffic because the total traffic is the same regardless of the number of folders so same storage requirements.
Yes, there are slow periods. This happens in every sport. Right now the season for Spring sports is over but there is traffic concerning coaching changes, transfer portal, transfers in and out, discussions on possible lineups for next season, Fall ball, etc.
Recall during the CWS we heard many times that an Aggie team has not won a national championship in a 'big three' sport since 1939. This sucks. Really does. But the 'other' sports have won a LOT of them. The players on those teams are Former Students and current students. All Aggies. They should not be shortchanged. Their successes should not be buried.
Some say they would not go to the softball forum if it was not mixed in with baseball. That's their choice. But if all the Aggie sports are listed in order he or she might see the softball (or volleyball or soccer or ...) forum because they are all together and in BOLD and decide to check it out. Perhaps after he or she has read somewhere else (Batt, Eagle, KBTX, etc.) about the AGGIES on a 'minor' team having won a big game, signed a huge recruit, etc.
In the old days when I actually had a subscription to a real newspaper (was the B-CS Eagle) I did not skip the news section because it was not mixed in with the sports section. I did not 'overlook' the news pages - I knew they were there. But I read the sports pages first. Priority. If an Aggie has even a slight interest in one of the 'minor' sports they would be a simple mouse click away. Their priority sport(s) first and then other sports. Would be really easy if the 'other' sports were not buried!
Basically, nothing wrong with making it easier for the followers of each sport. As simple as that.
I grew up playing baseball (catcher and third base) but I still love softball. It is quick. Have to have great reaction times. Some darn good athletes. A quality double play is awesome be it baseball or softball. A centerfielder throwing out a runner at home with an awesome throw is just as great in baseball or softball. It is easily possible to watch and like BOTH of them.
Gig 'Em !!
Just because football is more popular than volleyball does not mean we should bury the 'minor' sport or sports.
Indeed, each Aggie sport should have its own forum. The players are all Texas Aggies, regardless of sport. Regardless of mens or womens sports. The site is TexAgs. If a person wants to check out stuff on Aggie soccer he or she should not have to scroll through posts on every soccer team, league, etc. in the world. Many pages of them. For Aggies who like 'other' soccer there could be a forum called 'Soccer - Other' in addition to 'Texas Aggie Soccer'.
The women's tennis and golf teams were very successful this year. Equestrian, too. National champions. All three sports. To find new information on them (has been coaching changes, transfers, etc.) have to scroll through a LOT of posts to find 'their' threads.
Should be one for each 'team' listed on the 12thman.com website under 'teams'. Should not matter if some do not get as much traffic because the total traffic is the same regardless of the number of folders so same storage requirements.
Yes, there are slow periods. This happens in every sport. Right now the season for Spring sports is over but there is traffic concerning coaching changes, transfer portal, transfers in and out, discussions on possible lineups for next season, Fall ball, etc.
Recall during the CWS we heard many times that an Aggie team has not won a national championship in a 'big three' sport since 1939. This sucks. Really does. But the 'other' sports have won a LOT of them. The players on those teams are Former Students and current students. All Aggies. They should not be shortchanged. Their successes should not be buried.
Some say they would not go to the softball forum if it was not mixed in with baseball. That's their choice. But if all the Aggie sports are listed in order he or she might see the softball (or volleyball or soccer or ...) forum because they are all together and in BOLD and decide to check it out. Perhaps after he or she has read somewhere else (Batt, Eagle, KBTX, etc.) about the AGGIES on a 'minor' team having won a big game, signed a huge recruit, etc.
In the old days when I actually had a subscription to a real newspaper (was the B-CS Eagle) I did not skip the news section because it was not mixed in with the sports section. I did not 'overlook' the news pages - I knew they were there. But I read the sports pages first. Priority. If an Aggie has even a slight interest in one of the 'minor' sports they would be a simple mouse click away. Their priority sport(s) first and then other sports. Would be really easy if the 'other' sports were not buried!
Basically, nothing wrong with making it easier for the followers of each sport. As simple as that.
I grew up playing baseball (catcher and third base) but I still love softball. It is quick. Have to have great reaction times. Some darn good athletes. A quality double play is awesome be it baseball or softball. A centerfielder throwing out a runner at home with an awesome throw is just as great in baseball or softball. It is easily possible to watch and like BOTH of them.
Gig 'Em !!
You use your hips to snap he ball. The motion is a lot less violent than baseball and the shorter travel from softball circle to home plate makes 66mph look like 100mph.ObviousLazyRiverIsObvious said:
I'm intrigued by softball and will watch it. One big thing is ... how in the world do those pitchers throw so hard with that motion? I've tried to replicate it and it feels so unnatural. Hats off to them for that talent!
The angle at release of the hips to parallel to the plate is about 45 degrees iirc. Also keep in mind pitch movement is impacted by release rotation and underhand tends to cause forward rotation which sinks. The release changes that of course if not just below the center of the ball.
Also a ton of surface area creates more drag than baseball.
GIJOE said:
Just curious why these share a forum instead of having their own?
They should be separate. The Lady Aggies are kicking a__ now, so they'll have plenty of fans from now on.
I am a softball and baseball fan. (proof text......I know everyone remembers Tom Chandler but does anyone remember Bill Galloway, Dave Shakel, Kay Don..... Google is your friend)
It has always been difficult to find softball info but this year it has been almost impossible.
Both sports are exploding and it is time for them to have their own boards.
It has always been difficult to find softball info but this year it has been almost impossible.
Both sports are exploding and it is time for them to have their own boards.
I come here for softball updates and M&W board for baseball. Unless it's football season.
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