Probably were to existing players that ended up staying. So no idea if that makes them less useful. Or if there's even just one that Earley sent, nothing is going to happen.

Its not like the recruits that switched are going to provide any evidence.

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And we were going to nail them on significant recruiting violations? That was a fun lie I let myself believe for a while.

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There was likely contact between t.u. affiliated NIL agents and players regarding transfer opportunities and NIL. But those affiliated agents are NOT t.u. employees.

There were likely burner phones.

There are likely screenshots.

But if burner phones weren't given to the players by Schloss or A&M assistant coaches then there is deniability.

Likewise, If the screenshots don't show direct dialogue between Schloss' staff and aggie players then there is deniability.

Now I don't know what the "rules" are about contact between outsiders (t.u. NIL agents) and players who aren't in the transfer portal. But coaches around the country have been complaining about that for the last 2 years and NCAA has done nothing because those agents tend to not be direct employees of NCAA affiliated institutions. Thus it would probably require legal actions in court instead of an NCAA panel. Since they NCAA hasn't had much success in courts, its unlikely they will pursue those matters.

The NCAA just settled an anti-trust civil liability suit by agreeing to allow athletes to be paid for prior constraints on athletes soliciting name image and likeness deals.

If they had the foresight to know they would lose they might have ushered in the Olympics NIL model, but the problem is that the schools will not naturally play nice without some means of creating compliance mechanisms that provide transparency and avoid tampering.

Until there is a collective bargaining agreement the settlement is a lame attempt to not have a collective bargaining agreement…

What is Earley's salary? I hadn't seen it published yet. I'm sure I just missed it though.

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BCO07 said:

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And we were going to nail them on significant recruiting violations? That was a fun lie I let myself believe for a while.

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There was likely contact between t.u. affiliated NIL agents and players regarding transfer opportunities and NIL. But those affiliated agents are NOT t.u. employees.

There were likely burner phones.

There are likely screenshots.

But if burner phones weren't given to the players by Schloss or A&M assistant coaches then there is deniability.

Likewise, If the screenshots don't show direct dialogue between Schloss' staff and aggie players then there is deniability.

Now I don't know what the "rules" are about contact between outsiders (t.u. NIL agents) and players who aren't in the transfer portal. But coaches around the country have been complaining about that for the last 2 years and NCAA has done nothing because those agents tend to not be direct employees of NCAA affiliated institutions. Thus it would probably require legal actions in court instead of an NCAA panel. Since they NCAA hasn't had much success in courts, its unlikely they will pursue those matters.

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I just don't think it's possible for screenshots to show direct dialogue.

If it's a burner phone...."I've never had a burner phone, must be someone else just posing as me to try and get us in trouble."

Not that he's dumb enough to use his phone but if he is it's not difficult to create/edit contacts for screenshots. Still plenty of deniability. Now, that could lead to looking at phone records but highly doubt that will happen.

So.....TLDR....screen shots were never going to and never will prove anything.

BCO07 said:

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And we were going to nail them on significant recruiting violations? That was a fun lie I let myself believe for a while.

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Hopium is one helluva drug.

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I'm in the minority here. Brauny said there were pictures of burner phones, that they would come out, and that the whole thing was "even slimier" than earlier believed. If you call yourself a journalist, level those accusations at Schlossnagle, and promise evidence, you either deliver or you retract and apologize. He did neither.

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I honestly don't remember him saying anything about promising to deliver evidence.

Either way, as above, it's clear that there are two likely options. There is evidence but not enough to hold someone accountable enough to take it to court. We may have the gun but it's not smoking. Or there is mud on both sides and a quiet ceasefire was agreed to and call that round a draw. Or maybe both. We are riding a high right now of salvaging both the team and the staff in what is probably the absolute best case scenario we could have hoped for after tu coach left. What circumstantial evidence that may exist will probably damage that somewhat at this stage.

Point is, it's a dead end in all likelihood and looks like everyone that can/will be directly affected has moved on. I am doing the same.

I really think the screenshot thing got overblown. Several players have come on the radio and said that they heard rumors but were still surprised when he left. If they aren't letting current players know, they aren't going to tell recruits who could literally do anything.

I suspect what happened was some people switched recruiting from their A&M cell phone to their personal cell phone number a few weeks before so they could recruit them more easily after they left and turned in their A&M cell phone.

It's kind of hard to accuse someone of wrongdoing or harm when you go and hire one of the perpetrators.

You must be on a lot of ignore lists if you didn't get a bite with that one.

Or Schloss knew he had dirt on us since he did stuff when he was with us, knew the university would not come after him and it would only hurt us if we did. Kept our players, got the coach the players wanted, time to move on.

My guess is that Brauny saw or heard a rumor somewhere about there being pictures of burner phone(s), got emotional, and passed it along as though it were something substantive, when it never was.

I'm no longer thinking much about things that happened before Michael Earley.

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If there are screenshots, my assumption is that both sides may have people without clean hands.

Kendall said that it'd be best for both sides to let it die. Due to our roster return and recruiting, that would make sense for letting it die and moving forward (at least on a public scale).

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Word on the street is that this is the winner.

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Word on the street is that this is the winner.

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Source? Empty conjecture is all the rage on this board these days.

I suspect tu backed off real quick on trying to recruit anyone KNOWING what we KNOW. Not saying, that like Poncho and Lefty, "they could have had them any day", but I suspect it was pretty obviously legally that no one had better show up in Austin, or else.

Would that be good enough? Would I like to see tu publicly humiliated in court or in media? Oh yea. But, then I'm just a fan.

What do we KNOW?!? I keep seeing things that are assumed to be fact but for which I've not seen any evidence.

All I KNOW is that Schlossnagle was unhappy at A&M for a long time and made the decision to leave weeks before the season was over. I know his players hated him universally and succeeded, at least in part, because of the togetherness that came from their hatred of him. I know that he had "wife issues" that necessitated him leaving Fort Worth (and I've known that since we hired him). I know that I wouldn't let my kid play for him.

What I don't know anything about is their being any evidence to support a charge that he recruited for Texas while employed by Texas A&M. That's a hell of an accusation to toss around, unsupported.

Unsupported? The whole nation was talking about it. Not like I had a dream.

What is the whole nation talking about? Enlighten me. What is factual and has been supported by available evidence?

I live in Missouri. No one here talks college baseball unless one of the non-Mizzou schools makes postseason.

The deets will eventually come out.

I can't think of a single A&M sports scandal that we haven't learned about...unless there are some so good/bad that nothing was ever heard of them.

My guess is both sides had dirt on each other, so letting it go became the obvious thing to do.