Kent made schloss look like a tardcicle

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Redfishag93
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8:57a, 7/12/24
How in the hell was Kent not in the lineup all year? No offense to chestnut…his speed is amazing and he had a good year until late (no thanks to schlobnobber's "encouragement").

Bench players do not do what Kent did in the postseason. It appears very obvious to me that schlobb's evaluation skills are slipping. To be fair, we just had our two best seasons of all time with him so he's a very good coach, no doubt.

But his poor eval of Kent made him look like a complete dumbass before Kent's performance took away all doubt.

Considering his former best recruiter, vitello, just won the national championship and his most recent best recruiter, Earley, is kicking the **** out of him in the portal, schlobnobber might just figure out it has way more to do with the players than it does him.
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greg.w.h
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9:04a, 7/12/24
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We should hire Schloss and fire him for being so stupid…
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akm91
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In reply to Redfishag93 • 9:05a, 7/12/24
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Think Kent had opportunities to win the job early in the season but Chestnut beat him out.
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9:06a, 7/12/24
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Kent had his shot early in the year when we were desperately looking for a 2B. He was pretty lost in the batter's box at that time and Nutt was hitting the ball. I think that was the deciding factor.

Who knows what was happening in practice though.
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9:27a, 7/12/24
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Because who do you take out of the lineup to put him in?
Look. There are lots of reasons to pick on Schloss. This isn't one of them. Only 9 players can be on the field. We had very talented players sitting on the bench because we had very talented players in the field.
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In reply to akm91 • 9:28a, 7/12/24
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akm91 said:
Think Kent had opportunities to win the job early in the season but Chestnut beat him out.
To be fair Chesnut had an unreal OBP for most of the year.
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9:32a, 7/12/24
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Nothing against chestnut, but that's who you take out. Kent was the best hitter on the team after Monty got hurt. Kent was that damn good.

If the best hitter on the team during the most clutch time of the season is sitting on the bench if not for an injury, that means the coach did a poor job evaluating that player.
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10:00a, 7/12/24
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From the interviews, even together, Schloss and Kent seemed to bump heads a lot. Kent seemed to have a similar personality as his dad which was telling the truth no matter what and being a bit hard headed (I have nothing wrong with that as long as you back it up and Kent definitely did). Schloss didn't care what anyone else thought and was a my way or the highway type.

But Chesnut killed it at the beginning of the year, he earned that spot. Kent just took more time to get it going
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In reply to SW AG80 • 10:02a, 7/12/24
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SW AG80 said:
Kent had his shot early in the year when we were desperately looking for a 2B. He was pretty lost in the batter's box at that time and Nutt was hitting the ball. I think that was the deciding factor.

Who knows what was happening in practice though.
This. At times it seemed like Schloss wanted Kent to take the job and Chestnutt kept performing better.
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10:02a, 7/12/24
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I am starting to get a little bit tired of these threads. We wouldn't be seeing them if his name was Kaeden Smith and not Kaeden Kent.

We basically held open auditions for second base early in the season, and Kent simply didn't do well enough to win the job. On a lesser team, he likely would have found a spot in the lineup and been given a chance to work through his hitting issues, but the prior staff, whatever their faults, weren't going to play him simply because his dad was a successful big leaguer.

He may have a great year for us next year; he certainly finished the year as one of our hottest hitters. It won't change the fact that he couldn't beat out Chestnutt for the job when we had an open competition early last season.
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In reply to Redfishag93 • 10:04a, 7/12/24
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Nothing against chestnut, but that's who you take out. Kent was the best hitter on the team after Monty got hurt. Kent was that damn good.

If the best hitter on the team during the most clutch time of the season is sitting on the bench if not for an injury, that means the coach did a poor job evaluating that player.


If Kent was that clutch at that time he would have been in the lineup, but he wasn't. To his credit when given the opportunity when Monty got hurt, he was
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In reply to ensign_beedrill • 10:09a, 7/12/24
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Because who do you take out of the lineup to put him in?
Look. There are lots of reasons to pick on Schloss. This isn't one of them. Only 9 players can be on the field. We had very talented players sitting on the bench because we had very talented players in the field.


Kent > Chestnut

Chestnut would have been best used as your pinch runner late in a game. Kent was clutch even before the super regionals (played great against Sam, LSU, and various other spots)
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10:15a, 7/12/24
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Some of you need to go watch the Chestnut interview. His batting started going down the same time Schloss took the sip job and Schloss started belittling him bc of his lack of character and guilt.

Chestnut and Kent are both great. But it is pretty clear Schloss treated him like a black sheep. Schloss most likely had to be more careful with his interactions towards Kent for obvious reasons.
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11:46a, 7/12/24
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Kent has great in the post season and I'm very glad he's returning. He has a chance to be very good.

That said it might be possible that people are reacting to a hot streak, granted a nuclear one, too much. Kent had chances early but didn't take the job away from anyone. He's also a bit of a free swinger and that goes against schloss' philosophy of patience and passing to the next guy if you don't get your pitch.

Another thing to remember. I think Chestnut had the best batting average on the team during sec play. He might not have been clubbing bombs constantly but he was on base a ton. Chestnut had a brutal CWS. Awful time to be in a funk.

Baseball is a game of streaks. You can't make knee jerk reactions based on streaks whether good or bad.
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In reply to MosesHallRAB04 • 11:50a, 7/12/24
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Totally agreed with your sentiment
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11:54a, 7/12/24
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Kent, by default, was given the starting job to start conference play. Started 6 straight and went 3 for 20 with no extra base hits, no walks, 5 K. And 1 of those hits was against Prairie View.

Chestnut came back from injury and was on fire through Georgia. Chestnut ended up leading the team in SEC play in batting average (.322) and ob% (.453). He was also a scoring machine. Led in runs per at bat. He was even 4th against SEC in OPS (1.012) right behind the big 3 (Jace, Braden and Gavin).

Kent finished SEC only with a .214 avg., .267 ob% and a .696 OPS. I agree with twk. Maybe on another team he is given a longer leash and works through his issues sooner. As it was, he started to show improved ABs in May in his few opportunities and was on fire in the post-season. Glad he kept at it and got hot. Hopefully he's turned a corner and we'll see that Kent all season. Because he will start next year.
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In reply to MosesHallRAB04 • 11:58a, 7/12/24
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MosesHallRAB04 said:
Kent has great in the post season and I'm very glad he's returning. He has a chance to be very good.

That said it might be possible that people are reacting to a hot streak, granted a nuclear one, too much. Kent had chances early but didn't take the job away from anyone. He's also a bit of a free swinger and that goes against schloss' philosophy of patience and passing to the next guy if you don't get your pitch.

Another thing to remember. I think Chestnut had the best batting average on the team during sec play. He might not have been clubbing bombs constantly but he was on base a ton. Chestnut had a brutal CWS. Awful time to be in a funk.

Baseball is a game of streaks. You can't make knee jerk reactions based on streaks whether good or bad.


There were a few threads in the middle of the season and before postseason clamoring for Kent to start

First one I distinctly remember was after he came in late in the Sam Houston game and came up huge in both at bats he had
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12:29p, 7/12/24
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I agree both were amazing players. The notion Chestnut shouldn't be at the plate as a regular is silly. Kent on the other hand got an early look.

Blaming Schloss is just excuse generation for future teams. Maybe we just celebrate that Schloss left instead…
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In reply to tjack16 • 12:37p, 7/12/24
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He was 1 for 2 against Sam with a double and a walk. We then started SEC play and Kent was the starter. And then struggled as I mentioned above. His average dropped about 60 points over the next two weeks.
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In reply to ensign_beedrill • 2:40p, 7/12/24
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ensign_beedrill said:
Because who do you take out of the lineup to put him in?
Look. There are lots of reasons to pick on Schloss. This isn't one of them. Only 9 players can be on the field. We had very talented players sitting on the bench because we had very talented players in the field.

This. We had some of the same dynamic in '89.

If I remember correctly, all nine starters were drafted and a couple off the bench.

I may be off a little with those numbers, but we had a lot of really good players on that team.
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3:29p, 7/12/24
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So many people on these Kent > Chestnut threads who clearly only started paying attention to the baseball team in May. There is nothing wrong with that, but it means you weren't around to see Kent flounder in the first months of the season
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In reply to Randy Rhodes • 4:07p, 7/12/24
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Randy Rhodes said:
Redfishag93 said:
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Nothing against chestnut, but that's who you take out. Kent was the best hitter on the team after Monty got hurt. Kent was that damn good.

If the best hitter on the team during the most clutch time of the season is sitting on the bench if not for an injury, that means the coach did a poor job evaluating that player.


If Kent was that clutch at that time he would have been in the lineup, but he wasn't. To his credit when given the opportunity when Monty got hurt, he was
I think people have short memories. Chestnut absolutely earned the starting spot, both offensively and defensively. He outplayed both Kent and Bell. Kent definitely came into his own after Monty's injury and shuffle. He was one of our best hitters. But with baseball expect that to cycle from good to bad to good moving forward. Those number would be extremely hard to sustain. But I love that he is in a position to maintain them. People need to realize though that he is still young and prone to defensive mistakes, so people should refrain from over reacting and tearing him down after an error.
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In reply to ahpetty33 • 5:09p, 7/12/24
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ahpetty33 said:
So many people on these Kent > Chestnut threads who clearly only started paying attention to the baseball team in May. There is nothing wrong with that, but it means you weren't around to see Kent flounder in the first months of the season


Probably has more to do with some looking for anything to lash out at Schloss.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 5:35p, 7/12/24
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That's when the big slump for everyone started. It's so dang obvious looking back.
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5:39p, 7/12/24
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..............you weren't around to see Kent flounder in the first months of the season
I prefer to believe that POS ruined Kent's confidence early and Chestnutt's late. I KNOW at least half of that is true.
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8:02a, 7/13/24
All I know is POS is gone and Kent is coming back and I'm happy about both.
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In reply to twk • 12:19p, 7/13/24
twk said:
I am starting to get a little bit tired of these threads. We wouldn't be seeing them if his name was Kaeden Smith and not Kaeden Kent.

We basically held open auditions for second base early in the season, and Kent simply didn't do well enough to win the job. On a lesser team, he likely would have found a spot in the lineup and been given a chance to work through his hitting issues, but the prior staff, whatever their faults, weren't going to play him simply because his dad was a successful big leaguer.

He may have a great year for us next year; he certainly finished the year as one of our hottest hitters. It won't change the fact that he couldn't beat out Chestnutt for the job when we had an open competition early last season.


These threads are usually started by posters who dont watch aggie baseball until the post season. Kent had his chances during the regular season. His approach to the plate did look different after Monty got hurt.
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