Another loss

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And that sums up the season.
Who tries to advance to second down 2 with 2 outs in the top of the ninth and a runner going to be on third after hitting a single? SMH
Horrible coaching all year long.
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He represented the tying run. Getting into scoring position would've been significant. Needed a perfect throw to get him and it was. It happens.

There are a lot of other problems besides this play.
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No no no…you NEVER want the 3rd out to be bc of base running… he has to be situationally aware and he wasn't at all.
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203Raggie said:

He represented the tying run. Getting into scoring position would've been significant. Needed a perfect throw to get him and it was. It happens.

There are a lot of other problems besides this play.

At the risk of picking nits, this isn't accurate. He was out by a long shot, and it was not a difficult play for the CF at all.
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The ball got there way before binderup. Did not require a perfect throw at all.
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We just keep finding new ways to lose. Although I don't think we would've won even if he had stayed at first… It's still horrible to lose a game, making the last out extending a single into a double.
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He was out by a mile. That throw wasn't perfect but the guy on the bag had time to adjust and still get him. It was dumb base running, like someone who doesn't know the buttons on a video game and kept running on accident.
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203Raggie said:

He represented the tying run. Getting into scoring position would've been significant. Needed a perfect throw to get him and it was. It happens.

There are a lot of other problems besides this play.


Watch the replay, he wasn't even in the camera frame when the second baseman got the ball… That's how bad that decision was.
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While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.
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TxA&Mhunter said:

No no no…you NEVER want the 3rd out to be bc of base running… he has to be situationally aware and he wasn't at all.
no u never want to be the third out at 3rd base. Of course trying to go home or get in scoring position can be worth chancing the third out.
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203Raggie said:

While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.

Stop digging your hole. It's a bad take.

That was a routine play from the outfield and an easy throw. It could have bounced two more times on the way in and Binderup would still have been out. That's how BAD of a decision it was to go for 2nd.
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203Raggie said:

While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.


It was a great throw… which that guy makes all the time. He's an excellent defender. I'd imagine it's in the scouting report. That makes the decision even dumber.
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YellowPot_97 said:

203Raggie said:

While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.

Stop digging your hole. It's a bad take.

That was a routine play from the outfield and an easy throw. It could have bounced two more times on the way in and Binderup would still have been out. That's how BAD of a decision it was to go for 2nd.


We probably needed to push it. Again. If he makes it, a bloop can tie the game. We were not getting two more hits. You thinking we would is a bad take.

We haven't scored 4 runs in a single SEC game. Please tell me more about how we were suddenly gonna string it all together with 2 outs.
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tjack16 said:

203Raggie said:

While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.


It was a great throw… which that guy makes all the time. He's an excellent defender. I'd imagine it's in the scouting report. That makes the decision even dumber.


I'm not disputing that. But an offline throw means the tying run is standing in second. Or he gets thrown out and we are spared from watching Bear strike out.

Just think about the odds for a minute and get back to me.
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We were not getting two more hits.

We would have pinch run for Binderup. With speed at first, a double ties it and a HR would have given us the lead. Harrison who would have been at the plate already homered in the game.

The opportunity to do it with one swing of the bat or several is better than a baserunning blunder to end the game and eliminate those opportunities. This isn't 10U baseball. That wasn't some unique throw the guy made. He was playing basic baseball.
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Just stick to being wrong once. You don't have to repeat it over and over.
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Outfielder fielded it too cleanly to go for 2nd. Likely still lose anyway though even if get a run pushed across to extend the game.
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AggieBand2004 said:

Just stick to being wrong once. You don't have to repeat it over and over.


I'm sorry for trying to bring reason into your pity party of misery.
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203Raggie said:

tjack16 said:

203Raggie said:

While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.


It was a great throw… which that guy makes all the time. He's an excellent defender. I'd imagine it's in the scouting report. That makes the decision even dumber.


I'm not disputing that. But an offline throw means the tying run is standing in second. Or he gets thrown out and we are spared from watching Bear strike out.

Just think about the odds for a minute and get back to me.


So the strategy is banking on an elite defender making a bad throw? Interesting…

Imagine if buzz told our guys to leave Michigan's top 3 point shooter wide open all game because odds are he'll miss 6 out of 10.



It also wasn't even that great of a throw
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tjack16 said:

203Raggie said:

tjack16 said:

203Raggie said:

While I'm getting critiqued on the quality of the throw required. I support the idea of pushing it. This team was not going to get two more hits.

Better to put us in a position to try to tie it with one hit. Binderup needs to drop the anchor.

And that throw was pretty darn good. I'll rewatch the replay but I think the throw was better than most of yall are giving RJ credit for. Just on arm strength alone.

ETA: I watched it again. That was a strong throw. I stand my ground on that.


It was a great throw… which that guy makes all the time. He's an excellent defender. I'd imagine it's in the scouting report. That makes the decision even dumber.


I'm not disputing that. But an offline throw means the tying run is standing in second. Or he gets thrown out and we are spared from watching Bear strike out.

Just think about the odds for a minute and get back to me.


So the strategy is banking on an elite defender making a bad throw? Interesting…

Imagine if buzz told our guys to leave Michigan's top 3 point shooter wide open all game because odds are he'll miss 6 out of 10.



It also wasn't even that great of a throw


I'm not saying it was the smartest decision. I'm just saying that I get the idea of pushing a guy into scoring position.

The throw was better than everyone is giving him credit for and binderup apparently is slower than most would think.

I'm not even saying a bad throw gets him in. But the CF is moving backwards to field the ball. Turns and fires a shot into second. It's a significantly better than average throw for college baseball.

He didn't make it. Everyone that wants to be upset can point that out. I'd rather push our luck and maybe get a bloop to tie that game rather than rely on a team that struck out 30 times to try to swing for the fences or get two more hits.
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203Raggie said:

He represented the tying run. Getting into scoring position would've been significant. Needed a perfect throw to get him and it was. It happens.

There are a lot of other problems besides this play.


NOT TRUE. NEVER should he have tried for a double in that situation. He was gunned out by a MILE.

Some of the dumbest base running and coaching I have seen even in youth baseball this year. Baffling.
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203Raggie said:

AggieBand2004 said:

Just stick to being wrong once. You don't have to repeat it over and over.


I'm sorry for trying to bring reason into your pity party of misery.

Pity party of misery? You must be new around here
tjack16
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We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on this one. It was a bad decision.
Was that the only reason we lost? No of course not (like you said earlier, we had more issues than just that), but you just never know what could have happened next. Who knows, first pitch to Bear could have been a wild pitch and Binderup ends up on second anyways.

It just seemed like that play was a microcosm for how this season has gone which is probably the most frustrating bit.
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dcg4403 said:

203Raggie said:

He represented the tying run. Getting into scoring position would've been significant. Needed a perfect throw to get him and it was. It happens.

There are a lot of other problems besides this play.


NOT TRUE. NEVER should he have tried for a double in that situation. He was gunned out by a MILE.

Some of the dumbest base running and coaching I have seen even in youth baseball this year. Baffling.


I just feel like that was our best chance at getting two runs across with the next batter. Statistically would probably back me up on that.
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203Raggie said:

dcg4403 said:

203Raggie said:

He represented the tying run. Getting into scoring position would've been significant. Needed a perfect throw to get him and it was. It happens.

There are a lot of other problems besides this play.


NOT TRUE. NEVER should he have tried for a double in that situation. He was gunned out by a MILE.

Some of the dumbest base running and coaching I have seen even in youth baseball this year. Baffling.


I just feel like that was our best chance at getting two runs across with the next batter. Statistically would probably back me up on that.


Maybe with a different runner. But Bindy is not fast. And at this level- he should know that about himself. He screwed up in a big moment last night. The loss isn't on him, but he certainly didn't help in an effort to win.

And I'm betting you will post at least once more in an effort to "get the last word" on here
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TxA&Mhunter said:

No no no…you NEVER want the 3rd out to be bc of base running… he has to be situationally aware and he wasn't at all.
I'd say he was pretty situationally aware. 1b coach sent him to second and he did exactly what he was told.
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Just curious, did the first base coach actually send him? All the video I have seen shows the catch and throw from the outfield - the first base coach is never in view. Is there another angle I haven't seen?

Unfortunately, I think this was all a Bindy decision.
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LOL, it was RJ Austin…. Arguably the best centerfielder in the SEC.
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What you saw there on that play is what's wrong with the team.
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Umm. That video sums up how trash this season is. He is out by a mile and just another ignorant ass decision for us
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JR Ewingford said:

Umm. That video sums up how trash this season is. He is out by a mile and just another ignorant ass decision for us


I feel like he almost ahd time to turn around and run back to first after 2B caught the ball, and still have a better chance at being safe than he did sliding into 2nd.
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