Our pitchers all hang around 92. He hit 94 a few times. Also, would anyone like to see Partida throw an inning or two?

SS should have the arm. But might not turn out well. He has to want it and would rather he figure it out during a less crucial time???

Pretty sure he has been up in velocity in general this year as a whole.

More than anything, he seemed to finally have some good command and his change up was solid. Not perfect...room for improvement. But I loved what I saw as more upside.

None of our pitchers will dominate. They just can't give up bases or big hits w runners on base. That's the model. Throws strikes, let em hit, trust your defense, trust your offense to outscore them. Rinse and repeat.

I sure hope Earley can score a few big 97-100 mph arms next season. Miss that.

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Pretty sure he has been up in velocity in general this year as a whole.

More than anything, he seemed to finally have some good command and his change up was solid. Not perfect...room for improvement. But I loved what I saw as more upside.

None of our pitchers will dominate. They just can't give up bases or big hits w runners on base. That's the model. Throws strikes, let em hit, trust your defense, trust your offense to outscore them. Rinse and repeat.

I sure hope Earley can score a few big 97-100 mph arms next season. Miss that.

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We've had 1 guy like that recently, Chris Cortes. If you go back to Childress then Asa Lacy would be another.

There aren't that many arms out there who are consistently upper 90s like that. Prager was dominant and he sat at 88-90.

Velo buys you more room to make mistakes but we've been teeing off on those guys. Give me a guy sitting 93 who locates, changes speed, and has movement with multiple pitches.

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This. The amount of high velo guys who can command the zone is not that great. Cortes struggled mightily at times. Just because you can throw hard doesn't make you a great pitcher. That's not to say we don't need to step up our recruiting on the mound; we certainly do. But the guys that we have seem capable of getting us deep into the postseason if they will perform as they have the last couple of weeks.

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TarponChaser said:

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dcg4403 said:

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Pretty sure he has been up in velocity in general this year as a whole.

More than anything, he seemed to finally have some good command and his change up was solid. Not perfect...room for improvement. But I loved what I saw as more upside.

None of our pitchers will dominate. They just can't give up bases or big hits w runners on base. That's the model. Throws strikes, let em hit, trust your defense, trust your offense to outscore them. Rinse and repeat.

I sure hope Earley can score a few big 97-100 mph arms next season. Miss that.

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We've had 1 guy like that recently, Chris Cortes. If you go back to Childress then Asa Lacy would be another.

There aren't that many arms out there who are consistently upper 90s like that. Prager was dominant and he sat at 88-90.

Velo buys you more room to make mistakes but we've been teeing off on those guys. Give me a guy sitting 93 who locates, changes speed, and has movement with multiple pitches.

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This. The amount of high velo guys who can command the zone is not that great. Cortes struggled mightily at times. Just because you can throw hard doesn't make you a great pitcher. That's not to say we don't need to step up our recruiting on the mound; we certainly do. But the guys that we have seem capable of getting us deep into the postseason if they will perform as they have the last couple of weeks.

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We can go deep in the postseason with the guys we have as long as we stay out of the losers bracket. If we are forced to go to our 7-10 deep in this staff it might be a problem against postseason competition.

I think the gun at LSU was running a little hot. I think all our guys were up 1-2mph. So not sure if Moss was really throwing harder.

LSU had no shortage of guys throwing high 90's. May be better to list the number of guys they have that don't throw high 90's.

Velo does not equate to pitching. Ask Maddux. But Velo does erase mistakes as reaction time is shorter. Thus guys with control and velo tend to dominate.

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Pretty sure he has been up in velocity in general this year as a whole.

More than anything, he seemed to finally have some good command and his change up was solid. Not perfect...room for improvement. But I loved what I saw as more upside.

None of our pitchers will dominate. They just can't give up bases or big hits w runners on base. That's the model. Throws strikes, let em hit, trust your defense, trust your offense to outscore them. Rinse and repeat.

I sure hope Earley can score a few big 97-100 mph arms next season. Miss that.

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We've had 1 guy like that recently, Chris Cortes. If you go back to Childress then Asa Lacy would be another.

There aren't that many arms out there who are consistently upper 90s like that. Prager was dominant and he sat at 88-90.

Velo buys you more room to make mistakes but we've been teeing off on those guys. Give me a guy sitting 93 who locates, changes speed, and has movement with multiple pitches.

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According to D1's Heat Sheet, there are 100 pitchers in D1 who have thrown 97+ in games this year. We may be the only (if not one of the few) SEC team that doesn't really have any power arms. Doesn't mean we can't succeed with what we've got, but we definitely need to level up.

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Pretty sure he has been up in velocity in general this year as a whole.

More than anything, he seemed to finally have some good command and his change up was solid. Not perfect...room for improvement. But I loved what I saw as more upside.

None of our pitchers will dominate. They just can't give up bases or big hits w runners on base. That's the model. Throws strikes, let em hit, trust your defense, trust your offense to outscore them. Rinse and repeat.

I sure hope Earley can score a few big 97-100 mph arms next season. Miss that.

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We've had 1 guy like that recently, Chris Cortes. If you go back to Childress then Asa Lacy would be another.

There aren't that many arms out there who are consistently upper 90s like that. Prager was dominant and he sat at 88-90.

Velo buys you more room to make mistakes but we've been teeing off on those guys. Give me a guy sitting 93 who locates, changes speed, and has movement with multiple pitches.

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According to D1's Heat Sheet, there are 100 pitchers in D1 who have thrown 97+ in games this year. We may be the only (if not one of the few) SEC team that doesn't really have any power arms. Doesn't mean we can't succeed with what we've got, but we definitely need to level up.

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There are 300 D1 programs which carry about 15 pitchers per roster. That's 4500 kids so about 2% are hitting 97+. Obviously those top-2% in velo are generally clustered at top P4 programs.

And those are velos for "touching" not "sitting" - most of those guys touching 97-99 are generally going to sit 94-96. I haven't seen every single pitch our guys have made but they're consistently sitting 92-93.

Again, velo is great. It means that if you get behind in the count and need to blow a fastball past somebody you can get it done a lot of the time. But in an era when the kids playing at the D1 level (especially P4) have been seeing 90mph since they were 15 velocity just isn't enough. A flat 98 will get hit a lot more often than 93 with life. Then if you can throw secondary pitches for strikes, change speeds, and locate your pitches your velocity plays up and you're even harder to hit. Especially if you can tunnel your pitches so they look the same coming out of your hand.

Go look at guys like Prager and Aschenbeck who were dominant for us- both of them topped out about 91 and sat 88-89.

Prager started getting lit up last year when his top speed dropped below 90 for the majority of innings. In SEC guys need to hit 93+ on fastballs (with good command of location) to get by without one or more wipeout off speed pitches in their arsenal