Flattening the curve

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DeWrecking Crew
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I just got back from a week in Japan. To figure out if the theories of flattening the curve are accurate Japan will be the country to watch. While it is damn near a worst case scenario in terms of proximity of people ( lots of people in a small space), I would estimate that 95% of the population is wearing masks at all times, many people are avoiding travel, hand sanitizers available everywhere (some places greet you at the entrance of a place and require you use the hand sanitizer before entry). As a society as a whole they are smarter than we are in terms of common sense regarding an infectious virus, and are more cognizant of what practices to proceed with and what practices to avoid. If flattening the curve is the best practice, Japan will be the country that proves it.
TRADUCTOR
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Buildings need to start hiring greeters with hand sanitizer and Clorox wiper patrol peoples that don't cough or run fever.

'Learn to wipe'
TyHolden
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law-apt-3g said:


'Learn to wipe'
the corona battle cry
Drip99
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So by smarter do u mean actually staying home or are they lined up next to each other in heb and bragging about being at crowded restaurants and Bars on Facebook?
fullback44
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Oh I agree, we have plenty of our own people that couldn't add 6 + 8 ... and come up with say at least 13

Not trying to be "noxious" as you say... just speaking the truth and stating reality of our society today
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For all practical purposes, S. Korea and Italy were exposed to COVID-19 about the same time. The difference in approach and result between the two countries are very telling. S. Korea seems to have successfully flatten their curve while Italy is on the growth part of the curve. Unfortunately, we seem to mirror Italy in approach and likely result.



DeWrecking Crew
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Little things like no hand shaking or fist bumps, instead they bow their head. They don't take money directly from one another. You put money in a tray, they pay attention to which area you touched on the money, pick up the opposite end, return any change in a tray. They keep to a minimum the amount of time they are facing one another in close proximity, if they are standing on a train they face the door, not their neighbor. Most of the doors are automated, even the the cab doors they don't want you touching, they are opened and closed by the driver from his seat. Food is served on a tray (the servers don't touch your plate, only the cooks who don't interact with the public). Obviously it's not 100%, but touch and contact is minimized and the people are just more cognizant and aware of not touching their face, etc.
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Fat Bib Fortuna
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fullback44 said:

DeWrecking Crew said:

I just got back from a week in Japan. To figure out if the theories of flattening the curve are accurate Japan will be the country to watch. While it is damn near a worst case scenario in terms of proximity of people ( lots of people in a small space), I would estimate that 95% of the population is wearing masks at all times, many people are avoiding travel, hand sanitizers available everywhere (some places greet you at the entrance of a place and require you use the hand sanitizer before entry). As a society as a whole they are smarter than we are in terms of common sense regarding an infectious virus, and are more cognizant of what practices to proceed with and what practices to avoid. If flattening the curve is the best practice, Japan will be the country that proves it.
They obviously are a very intelligent form of human being, much like the South Koreans. The Japanese are a very smart and educated country..

that being said I doubt they have 40,000,000 illegals in their country that are uneducated and have very basic skills. We will struggle because of the uneducated people we have in this country.. but we will eventually make it.

A country can have all the power in the world and contain some of the best facilities, weapons, Doctors, hospitals, and on and on and on, but when it comes to something like this virus, your weakest link is what will set you back.... we all know our countries weakest link, it's not having a fully educated population like some d the Asian countries like Japan that allow less than 5-10,000 immigrants a year into their country.

Your post is well taken, when this is all over and calmed down and results can be reviewed, I suspect countries like the Japanese will fare better even with their super high density population. The US won't be far behind but we may struggle a bit



https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/486092-why-outbreaks-like-coronavirus-drive-xenophobia

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/4/21157825/coronavirus-pandemic-xenophobia-racism


TXAggie2011
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If that's what you believe, so be it. But those people are here and they're not going away any time soon.

Your comments aren't helpful, and at best are a distraction from what could be a helpful discussion about hygienic practices.

At the minimum, that discussion belongs in its own thread.
hatchback
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Please take this to the politics board. You're not being helpful.

And, to set the record straight, there aren't 40 million illegals in the country - it's more like 10-12 million undocumented. However, total foreign born residents (naturalized citizens, permanent residents, and yes, illegals) in the US is near 44 million.
74OA
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From the staff post pinned up-top: "To be clear: This is not a place to post your opinion as fact or to post information not rooted in clear facts. This is not a place to have political arguments or to detail your opinions about how well or poorly the government is handling the issue. This is not a place to rant about media conspiracies. This is not a place to critique other people for their level of concern or efforts to prepare. There are forums for (some of) those conversations, but they don't belong here."
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