What are the chances my daughter had this in January?

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11:30p, 3/14/20
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Reading a lot of Reveille and other sources, and my 5-year old daughter stayed home from school for several days in January with these symptoms. My wife and I discussed that this morning. We couldn't get over the fact her flu test from the pediatrician came back negative. She had never run a fever or had the chills/shakes like that before. Kinda scary!

Not a real contribution to this forum, I know. Just curious.

I'm so amazed by the resiliency of children and their immune systems.
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Horn_in_Aggieland
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11:35p, 3/14/20
Mine was diagnosed with walking pneumonia in December. Shortness of breath but no fever.

Around the same time the wife and an extended family member who we spend a lot of time with family member had a cough that would just not go away. No fever. No shortness of breath.

We were kinda wondering the same thing as OP.

ETA: walking
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11:36p, 3/14/20
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For whatever reason, from what I understand, children are getting this disease at a lower rate than adults. Take that, combined with the fact most people with these symptoms end up testing negative and the fact it was on the ramp up in China and odds are your child did not have it.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 11:38p, 3/14/20
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I had a cough for about 3 weeks. Went to Fredericksburg 2and weekend in February. Came back and just never felt right for awhile but nothing major, no fever and certainly no shortness of breath, but a cough I couldn't shake until a week ago. Who knows. There are so many viruses going around it could be anything.
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In reply to grizzo • 11:45p, 3/14/20
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grizzo said:
Reading a lot of Reveille and other sources, and my 5-year old daughter stayed home from school for several days in January with these symptoms. My wife and I discussed that this morning. We couldn't get over the fact her flu test from the pediatrician came back negative. She had never run a fever or had the chills/shakes like that before. Kinda scary!

Not a real contribution to this forum, I know. Just curious.

I'm so amazed by the resiliency of children and their immune systems.
VERY unlikely, unless you or someone you know had been in Wuhan previously. Also, she's under 10 and for reasons nobody knows they almost can't get it.
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11:46p, 3/14/20
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This started in China and spread out from there in February. No single government or company disputes that. Sniffles, fever, headache, etc in the US in January was not this virus.

(IMO of course)
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In reply to grizzo • 11:56p, 3/14/20
grizzo said:
Reading a lot of Reveille and other sources, and my 5-year old daughter stayed home from school for several days in January with these symptoms. My wife and I discussed that this morning. We couldn't get over the fact her flu test from the pediatrician came back negative. She had never run a fever or had the chills/shakes like that before. Kinda scary!

Not a real contribution to this forum, I know. Just curious.

I'm so amazed by the resiliency of children and their immune systems.


What about RSV? It has been gangbusters.
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12:21a, 3/15/20
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There were a lot of "crud" upper resp infections going around this year that had similar symptoms. I had a cough for three weeks in November. Upper resp infections and flu have similar symptoms to the mild symptoms of Wuhan.
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In reply to grizzo • 12:22a, 3/15/20
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grizzo said:
Reading a lot of Reveille and other sources, and my 5-year old daughter stayed home from school for several days in January with these symptoms. My wife and I discussed that this morning. We couldn't get over the fact her flu test from the pediatrician came back negative. She had never run a fever or had the chills/shakes like that before. Kinda scary!

Not a real contribution to this forum, I know. Just curious.

I'm so amazed by the resiliency of children and their immune systems.


The answer to your question is probably very, very low. We saw a lot of cases of flu this year that swabbed negative during the first 24 hours after symptoms onset but would subsequently swab positive over the next few days. As mentioned before RSV is also another real possibility in how you describe your daughter's case. If you had not been traveling abroad around that time the chances she had Covid-19 are very, very low.
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In reply to FriscoKid • 12:39a, 3/15/20
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This started in China and spread out from there in February. No single government or company disputes that. Sniffles, fever, headache, etc in the US in January was not this virus.

(IMO of course)


Can we be sure of that? The first cases in China were in November, and then gained major traction in December, there were several weeks, maybe even two months from the time the virus began to when we stopped traffic from Wuhan.
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1:32a, 3/15/20
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I'm convinced this was around in January. Our company had three employees attend CES in Las Vegas the week of January 6th. If you've ever been to CES before you know that it's heavily attended by Asians, particularly Chinese.

The employees came back on Saturday afternoon and all three got sick with some sort of crazy virus between that Saturday night and Monday night. The guy that got sick Monday night was at work Monday and gave it to others. Over the course of ~2 weeks the entire floor got it except for two people. The symptoms were exactly as described for COVID 19. It was like a nasty flu with high fever for 48 hours and then that was it. Highly contagious but never life threatening for anyone. No one went to the hospital.
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In reply to Picard • 8:22a, 3/15/20
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Picard said:
I'm convinced this was around in January. Our company had three employees attend CES in Las Vegas the week of January 6th. If you've ever been to CES before you know that it's heavily attended by Asians, particularly Chinese.

The employees came back on Saturday afternoon and all three got sick with some sort of crazy virus between that Saturday night and Monday night. The guy that got sick Monday night was at work Monday and gave it to others. Over the course of ~2 weeks the entire floor got it except for two people. The symptoms were exactly as described for COVID 19. It was like a nasty flu with high fever for 48 hours and then that was it. Highly contagious but never life threatening for anyone. No one went to the hospital.


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In reply to Picard • 8:36a, 3/15/20
Picard said:
I'm convinced this was around in January. Our company had three employees attend CES in Las Vegas the week of January 6th. If you've ever been to CES before you know that it's heavily attended by Asians, particularly Chinese.

The employees came back on Saturday afternoon and all three got sick with some sort of crazy virus between that Saturday night and Monday night. The guy that got sick Monday night was at work Monday and gave it to others. Over the course of ~2 weeks the entire floor got it except for two people. The symptoms were exactly as described for COVID 19. It was like a nasty flu with high fever for 48 hours and then that was it. Highly contagious but never life threatening for anyone. No one went to the hospital.


That doesn't sound like covid to me. Symptoms don't usually appear after a few days. It's usually closer to a week. Also, I've never seen anyone say the symptoms go away after two days. It's usually closer to two weeks.
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In reply to FriscoKid • 8:45a, 3/15/20
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I've literally heard nobody that would agree with that statement.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 8:47a, 3/15/20
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AustinAg2K said:
Picard said:
I'm convinced this was around in January. Our company had three employees attend CES in Las Vegas the week of January 6th. If you've ever been to CES before you know that it's heavily attended by Asians, particularly Chinese.

The employees came back on Saturday afternoon and all three got sick with some sort of crazy virus between that Saturday night and Monday night. The guy that got sick Monday night was at work Monday and gave it to others. Over the course of ~2 weeks the entire floor got it except for two people. The symptoms were exactly as described for COVID 19. It was like a nasty flu with high fever for 48 hours and then that was it. Highly contagious but never life threatening for anyone. No one went to the hospital.


That doesn't sound like covid to me. Symptoms don't usually appear after a few days. It's usually closer to a week. Also, I've never seen anyone say the symptoms go away after two days. It's usually closer to two weeks.


They had been there an entire week
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In reply to Picard • 8:57a, 3/15/20
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Picard said:
I'm convinced this was around in January. Our company had three employees attend CES in Las Vegas the week of January 6th. If you've ever been to CES before you know that it's heavily attended by Asians, particularly Chinese.

The employees came back on Saturday afternoon and all three got sick with some sort of crazy virus between that Saturday night and Monday night. The guy that got sick Monday night was at work Monday and gave it to others. Over the course of ~2 weeks the entire floor got it except for two people. The symptoms were exactly as described for COVID 19. It was like a nasty flu with high fever for 48 hours and then that was it. Highly contagious but never life threatening for anyone. No one went to the hospital.


There are a lot of bugs that go around every winter which do the exact same thing. The difference with this one is that it seems to be killing old people. If this were around in significant numbers in January hospitals would have seen a pretty big influx in elderly patients with respiratory symptoms that could not be attributed to the flu or anything else. Nursing homes, like the one in Washington, would have been overrun. I'm not saying it isn't a possibility, but the data on hospital admissions for the most susceptible people doesn't match.
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In reply to grizzo • 11:24a, 3/15/20
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There is another thread suggesting this exact thing ... this stuff may have been here already
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11:49a, 3/15/20
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The problem is there are a ton of viruses that go undiagnosed, or unnamed, because frankly there isn't much value in knowing which one it is.

Tens of thousands of viruses have the same treatment - which is limited to supportive care where we treat the symptoms. Hydration, fever, oxygen enriched air and ultimately intubation - those are our tools beyond rest and nutrition.

I don't think most people realize how many hospitalizations (many very serious) result from unnamed viruses beating someone's immune system. I wound bet it's a quarter of our ICU days without seeing the data.

Is it possible CV19 has been here for a while and we didn't know? It sure seems possible to me.
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