Young adults: A reminder of your mortality (21 year old from Spain)

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TheAngelFlight
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12:13a, 3/17/20
A 21 year old soccer coach has died from coronavirus (ESPN)

It turns out this fit, athletic guy had leukemia. They discovered it when he went in and tested positive for coronavirus.

I'm old. But I still remember. You feel healthy. You're living the dream. But you never know. Be safe out there.

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AggieKO
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12:38a, 3/17/20
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I'm 25 and like to think I'm healthy. Almost never get sick and when I do, almost always resolves itself in a matter of days. But stories like these make me be cautious.
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Buck Compton
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2:57a, 3/17/20
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Well, I'd say that's a pretty large comorbidity...

If you've been to the doctor for a checkup within the last year, you should have a pretty good idea of your current risk profile.
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FrioAg 00
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7:16a, 3/17/20
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I'm willing to take that remote risk to protect the economy
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wangus12
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7:23a, 3/17/20
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I'm 29. Pretty fit. Workout most days. Work in medicine. Pretty much guaranteed to be exposed at some point. I'm not overly concerned about dying from it, but I am concerned about the long term effect on my lungs if I do get it.
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10:41a, 3/17/20
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That's why annual preventive doctor checks and blood tests are important even while young and healthy.
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chickenfingers
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10:43a, 3/17/20
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Wow, I was 25 once. Really makes you think
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In reply to BigOil • 10:48a, 3/17/20
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BigOil said:
That's why annual preventive doctor checks and blood tests are important even while young and healthy.
Physical and blood work every year
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Capitol Ag
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10:57a, 3/17/20
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It does bring home the point that, as has been mentioned, even if you feel young and healthy you should always get a checkup once a year. In this particular case, his leukemia may not have been discovered until too late even without the viral infection, but we also should consider that it would have been obviously better to have found out at a higher stage but been alive and infection free than to find out in the middle of a pandemic.

And can we stop all of this "economy is still more important" talk on this forum. Debate in the political forum. We get it, a lot of you have expressed your opinion about economic issues. This isn't the forum.
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11:22a, 3/17/20
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I'm 25 and had the flu 5 years in a row. Eventually it starts getting not as bad as the year before believe it or not. Hopefully all those times have prepared me for this!
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11:23a, 3/17/20
Lets double down and work harder to scare the kids
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In reply to FrioAg 00 • 11:28a, 3/17/20
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FrioAg 00 said:
I'm willing to take that remote risk to protect the economy
Bless your heart you little capitalist. (patting you on the head)
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In reply to FrioAg 00 • 11:41a, 3/17/20
FrioAg 00 said:
I'm willing to take that remote risk to protect the economy
So Grandma and Grandpa dying is ok as long as the economy is protected?
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In reply to farmrag • 11:48a, 3/17/20
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farmrag said:
FrioAg 00 said:
I'm willing to take that remote risk to protect the economy
So Grandma and Grandpa dying is ok as long as the economy is protected?


I'll take a 30% market drop and 10% unemployment to make it 5% of grandma/grandpas rather than 10% (the highest estimates)

That's what shutting down the month of March has already done.


April through July or August, throwing us into Depression era economics? No. More people would suffer and die worldwide from the depression than the number of grandparents we'd be saving.
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In reply to farmrag • 11:54a, 3/17/20
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farmrag said:
FrioAg 00 said:
I'm willing to take that remote risk to protect the economy
So Grandma and Grandpa dying is ok as long as the economy is protected?
They should take the proper precautions themselves. If they don't, it isn't society's fault. This crisis can't be solved by action plans revolving around a single goal of "reduce the number of deaths From the virus" or "prolong the peak". There are other considerations at play and they all must be considered. It does not appear that they are.

I'm not asking society to pay that high price for my elderly relatives. This is going to be social meltdown in a few weeks if we don't pull our heads out and let this continue into the summer. This is what happens when you disrupt the supply chain in a JIT world.

"If even one life is saved" isn't a valid approach to allocation of resources. Millions of otherwise unaffected people are going to be out of jobs. Thousands or tens of thousands of bankrupt businesses because of mandatory government shutdowns. Many more people will die because if that than because of the disease.

It remains to be seen If their austerity measures will help relieve this financial burden. Either way, there's a point of no return there.
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11:56a, 3/17/20
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We'd save a lot of lives if we banned cars and made everyone get by on bicycles.

Every day we make trade offs with lives - some people just lack the mental maturity to come to grips with that
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In reply to FrioAg 00 • 11:59a, 3/17/20
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FrioAg 00 said:
We'd save a lot of lives if we banned cars and made everyone get by on bicycles.

Every day we make trade offs with lives - some people just lack the mental maturity to come to grips with that
Yep. Actuaries actually put a value on lives every day.

We as a society can't let the circumstances forced upon us by this virus (and our own poor decisions in the past) destroy our country. There's a path out of this, but it isn't "stay inside until the virus goes away"...
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In reply to Buck Compton • 12:06p, 3/17/20
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Buck Compton said:
FrioAg 00 said:
We'd save a lot of lives if we banned cars and made everyone get by on bicycles.

Every day we make trade offs with lives - some people just lack the mental maturity to come to grips with that
Yep. Actuaries actually put a value on lives every day.

We as a society can't let the circumstances forced upon us by this virus (and our own poor decisions in the past) destroy our country. There's a path out of this, but it isn't "stay inside until the virus goes away"...


So you know more about the path forward than experts, leadership and medical professionals around the world? Texags really does know stuff
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In reply to Drip99 • 12:12p, 3/17/20
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JesusQuintana said:
Buck Compton said:
FrioAg 00 said:
We'd save a lot of lives if we banned cars and made everyone get by on bicycles.

Every day we make trade offs with lives - some people just lack the mental maturity to come to grips with that
Yep. Actuaries actually put a value on lives every day.

We as a society can't let the circumstances forced upon us by this virus (and our own poor decisions in the past) destroy our country. There's a path out of this, but it isn't "stay inside until the virus goes away"...


So you know more about the path forward than experts, leadership and medical professionals around the world? Texags really does know stuff


TexAgs also has experts, leaders and medical professionals from around the world who post here
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In reply to Buck Compton • 12:21p, 3/17/20
Our country is worthless if we as a society can't bring ourselves to help those that helped us.

Those old people are the ones that took us to school, put food on our tables and roofs over our heads. Staying inside for 2 weeks doesn't begin to repay them.
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In reply to Choobadooba • 12:25p, 3/17/20
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blakegrimez said:
Our country is worthless if we as a society can't bring ourselves to help those that helped us.

Those old people are the ones that took us to school, put food on our tables and roofs over our heads. Staying inside for 2 weeks doesn't begin to repay them.
Jesus. Can no one separate themselves from emotion? I guess not.

I didn't say anything about two weeks. I said if this continues into April/May/summer. We are already doing a good job of helping those elderly... but we can't push ourselves into another Great Depression to do it. Where to draw the line on those trade offs is the decision that needs to be made. Identifying the point of no return for our economy is crucial.

What good is helping them live if our society collapses in on itself and they die in 2 years anyway because we bankrupted our citizenry?
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In reply to Buck Compton • 12:47p, 3/17/20
Read some peer-reviewed articles about mortality rates during the great depression.

Mortality rates didn't increase, in fact they decreased.

By far the greatest increase in mortality rates the US has seen since 1900 was in 1918, the year of the Spanish Flu.
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12:53p, 3/17/20
In this thread, a whole bunch of 19 year olds who just read Atlas Shrugged for the first time.
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