Have I been exposed?

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7:43a, 3/24/20
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I got word last night that a friend, with whom I shared a meal on Sunday 3/15, tested positive for COVID. He had zero symptoms at the time. His symptoms started on the evening of 3/19. He's already feeling somewhat better. He has no idea at all when/where he was exposed.

Is it possible that he was asymptomatically contagious on Sunday 3/15? If so, is it possible that I'm asymptomatically contagious?
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7:45a, 3/24/20
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Not a doctor: Yes
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7:54a, 3/24/20
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A doctor: Yes.

Have you probably been exposed to multiple asymptomatic people who were viral carriers: yes.
Should you freak out: No
Should you be careful: yes
Should you wash your hands a lot, avoid touching your face, and take any routine medications you take: yes
Is a lot of the world in your same situation: yes (very subjective answer here)
Not trying to make light of your situation, but also not trying to unnecessarily increase your concern.
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7:55a, 3/24/20
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I think any doctor would say probably. You should definitely self-quarantine.
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7:57a, 3/24/20
You live in the US, so yes.
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7:58a, 3/24/20
T&P for you and your friend

Social distancing works on the premise
everyone is to act as if you are infected and everyone you meet is also also infected
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8:01a, 3/24/20
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Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

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In reply to McInnis 03 • 8:03a, 3/24/20
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Thanks for confirmation.

I'm actually not worried; I'm young and healthy and have a pretty level head on my shoulders. Honestly, I'd rather get it now and then recover so that I can be immune later.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 8:07a, 3/24/20
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McInnis 03 said:
Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

If fever presents, stick to tylenol, or if needed alternate tylenol/ibuprofen every 3 hours.

Please don't provide medical advice if not a physician. Your last sentence is wrong. Yes, I'm a physician.
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In reply to Sq 17 • 8:08a, 3/24/20
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Sq 17 said:
T&P for you and your friend

Social distancing works on the premise
everyone is to act as if you are infected and everyone you meet is also also infected
Well put
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In reply to Gizzards • 8:09a, 3/24/20
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Gizzards said:
McInnis 03 said:
Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

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Please don't provide medical advice if not a physician. Your last sentence is wrong. Yes, I'm a physician.
Sorry, that advice verbatim was given to me by several physicians. Please don't ban me.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 8:12a, 3/24/20
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McInnis 03 said:
Gizzards said:
McInnis 03 said:
Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

If fever presents, stick to tylenol, or if needed alternate tylenol/ibuprofen every 3 hours.

Please don't provide medical advice if not a physician. Your last sentence is wrong. Yes, I'm a physician.
Sorry, that advice verbatim was given to me by several physicians. Please don't ban me.
Those physicians were not "keeping up", or else that advice was given a while ago. Advil/ibuprofen is definitely not currently recommended at this point by the wider physician community in cases of suspected or confirmed Covid-19, Coronavirus, WuHan virus, Chinese virus, choose your moniker. At least as of 09:13 EST on 3/24/2020.
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In reply to Kool • 8:15a, 3/24/20
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Kool said:
McInnis 03 said:
Gizzards said:
McInnis 03 said:
Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

If fever presents, stick to tylenol, or if needed alternate tylenol/ibuprofen every 3 hours.

Please don't provide medical advice if not a physician. Your last sentence is wrong. Yes, I'm a physician.
Sorry, that advice verbatim was given to me by several physicians. Please don't ban me.
Those physicians were not "keeping up", or else that advice was given a while ago. Advil/ibuprofen is definitely not currently recommended at this point by the wider physician community in cases of suspected or confirmed Covid-19, Coronavirus, WuHan virus, Chinese virus, choose your moniker. At least as of 09:13 EST on 3/24/2020.
I understand the correlation of the NSAIDS with a higher propensity to propagate the virus but wouldn't you fight a little harder with a stubborn high fever with the alternating of the acetaminophen and ibuprofen if the former isn't able to break it?
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 8:23a, 3/24/20
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I would not. And I am speaking a bit off of the "reservation" here when I say that a fever can be an important part of the body's immune response to an infection. Raising the core body temperature can help kill off viral particles, as well as bacteria. Too high of a temperature can also lead to central nervous system damage. Again, speaking "off the reservation", I think sometimes we do more harm than good in trying to eliminate any unpleasant symptom we get when we are sick. And these comments are more from the point of view of an individual and not necessarily shared within the medical community. How's that for a disclaimer?
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In reply to Kool • 8:29a, 3/24/20
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Kool said:
I would not. And I am speaking a bit off of the "reservation" here when I say that a fever can be an important part of the body's immune response to an infection. Raising the core body temperature can help kill off viral particles, as well as bacteria. Too high of a temperature can also lead to central nervous system damage. Again, speaking "off the reservation", I think sometimes we do more harm than good in trying to eliminate any unpleasant symptom we get when we are sick. And these comments are more from the point of view of an individual and not necessarily shared within the medical community. How's that for a disclaimer?
I appreciate the answer!
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8:30a, 3/24/20
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Why would you fight a fever unless it was dangerously high? A fever is your body fighting off the virus. Let your body do work.
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In reply to Hogties • 8:52a, 3/24/20
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Hogties said:
Why would you fight a fever unless it was dangerously high? A fever is your body fighting off the virus. Let your body do work.
People might fight a moderately-high (102-103) fever because it's VERY unpleasant. The stress that comes with such an unpleasant symptom can make keeping it detrimental overall.
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8:58a, 3/24/20
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what's to say the OP didn't give it to his buddy?
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In reply to Ornlu • 9:09a, 3/24/20
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Ornlu said:
Thanks for confirmation.

I'm actually not worried; I'm young and healthy and have a pretty level head on my shoulders. Honestly, I'd rather get it now and then recover so that I can be immune later.


I have seen the 'rather get it now or glad I got it now, and get over with' phrase a few times here and there, so just a comment.

A 13-year old in my city passed away from this thing yesterday. A couple of 49-50 year old former college basketball players with no known notable previous health conditions passed away from this thing yesterday in New York.

While grandpa and somebody with other health issues is a higher risk, that does not mean 'no risk' to somebody young and healthy. You never know for sure how your body will react. There have been plenty of cases of people younger than 50 who had to least be hospitalized.

So I wouldn't advocate anyone letting their guard down completely trying to avoid catching this thing because you are in a 'low risk' category and have a 'rather get it sooner than later anyways' mindset. preference should still be to avoid getting infected, or your kids infected, IMO.
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 10:18a, 3/24/20
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Pumpkinhead said:

While grandpa and somebody with other health issues is a higher risk, that does not mean 'no risk' to somebody young and healthy.


Nothing in life is ever "no risk". Every time you drive, or cook, or even shower you risk dear from crashes/burns/slips. The differentiation between low risk and no risk is a false dichotomy because one does not exist. The fact is that being part of a functioning society depends on taking acceptible risks. We can't just lock ourselves into sterile padded rooms for eternity.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 10:20a, 3/24/20
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McInnis 03 said:
Gizzards said:
McInnis 03 said:
Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

....

Please don't provide medical advice if not a physician. Your last sentence is wrong. Yes, I'm a physician.
Sorry, that advice verbatim was given to me by several physicians. Please don't ban me.
Not a doctor: ban him, 24 hours and then every 7 days =)
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In reply to Ornlu • 10:23a, 3/24/20
Ornlu said:
Pumpkinhead said:

While grandpa and somebody with other health issues is a higher risk, that does not mean 'no risk' to somebody young and healthy.


Nothing in life is ever "no risk". Every time you drive, or cook, or even shower you risk dear from crashes/burns/slips. The differentiation between low risk and no risk is a false dichotomy because one does not exist. The fact is that being part of a functioning society depends on taking acceptible risks. We can't just lock ourselves into sterile padded rooms for eternity.
Everything may have risks but you don't walk into a burning building without getting burned.
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In reply to Ornlu • 10:26a, 3/24/20
Ornlu said:
I got word last night that a friend, with whom I shared a meal on Sunday 3/15, tested positive for COVID. He had zero symptoms at the time. His symptoms started on the evening of 3/19. He's already feeling somewhat better. He has no idea at all when/where he was exposed.

Is it possible that he was asymptomatically contagious on Sunday 3/15? If so, is it possible that I'm asymptomatically contagious?
Not a doctor, but you're gonna be ok.

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In reply to Ornlu • 10:43a, 3/24/20
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Ornlu said:
Pumpkinhead said:

While grandpa and somebody with other health issues is a higher risk, that does not mean 'no risk' to somebody young and healthy.


Nothing in life is ever "no risk". Every time you drive, or cook, or even shower you risk dear from crashes/burns/slips. The differentiation between low risk and no risk is a false dichotomy because one does not exist. The fact is that being part of a functioning society depends on taking acceptible risks. We can't just lock ourselves into sterile padded rooms for eternity.
I wasn't talking about locking oneself in a padded room, but also during the peak period of this pandemic/epidemic that does not yet have a vaccine and while they are still learning/working out treatments, I would recommend people following reasonable precautions to try avoid catching this thing, regardless of their age or health status.
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10:48a, 3/24/20
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There is no evidence I am aware of that you cannot get COVID twice. The vast majority of coronavirus infections(e.g the common cold) do not give long term immunity. Most RNA viruses do not lend themselves to long term immunity. This is not chicken pox or herpes. There is a high probability of repeated infections with native immunity waning 4-6 weeks after you recover.

Again I know of no data supporting either stance just reporting what is well known with other coronavirus infections.
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In reply to McInnis 03 • 9:09a, 3/25/20
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McInnis 03 said:
Kool said:
McInnis 03 said:
Gizzards said:
McInnis 03 said:
Not a doctor: Absolutely yes.

Virus shedding can occur 6-7 days prior to symptoms being present and you were with the person during that timeline.

Time to find some good books, games, shows, movies, and hole-up in your residence. Pay close attention to your body for signs of symptoms.

If fever presents, stick to tylenol, or if needed alternate tylenol/ibuprofen every 3 hours.

Please don't provide medical advice if not a physician. Your last sentence is wrong. Yes, I'm a physician.
Sorry, that advice verbatim was given to me by several physicians. Please don't ban me.
Those physicians were not "keeping up", or else that advice was given a while ago. Advil/ibuprofen is definitely not currently recommended at this point by the wider physician community in cases of suspected or confirmed Covid-19, Coronavirus, WuHan virus, Chinese virus, choose your moniker. At least as of 09:13 EST on 3/24/2020.
I understand the correlation of the NSAIDS with a higher propensity to propagate the virus but wouldn't you fight a little harder with a stubborn high fever with the alternating of the acetaminophen and ibuprofen if the former isn't able to break it?
Here is a bit of an update on the topic yesterday.
Myth busting: setting the record straight on ibuprofen and Covid-19
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 9:30a, 3/25/20
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Pumpkinhead said:
Ornlu said:
Thanks for confirmation.

I'm actually not worried; I'm young and healthy and have a pretty level head on my shoulders. Honestly, I'd rather get it now and then recover so that I can be immune later.


I have seen the 'rather get it now or glad I got it now, and get over with' phrase a few times here and there, so just a comment.

A 13-year old in my city passed away from this thing yesterday. A couple of 49-50 year old former college basketball players with no known notable previous health conditions passed away from this thing yesterday in New York.

While grandpa and somebody with other health issues is a higher risk, that does not mean 'no risk' to somebody young and healthy. You never know for sure how your body will react. There have been plenty of cases of people younger than 50 who had to least be hospitalized.

So I wouldn't advocate anyone letting their guard down completely trying to avoid catching this thing because you are in a 'low risk' category and have a 'rather get it sooner than later anyways' mindset. preference should still be to avoid getting infected, or your kids infected, IMO.

Good post and that's tough hearing about a 13 year old.

Was just telling someone yesterday its obvious this thing attacks different people, or different genetics in different ways. We seem to have lots and lots of people who report their worst symptoms as being runny nose, slight fever, slight dry cough, cold like symptoms, and maybe loss of taste. Then they are pretty much recovered within a few days. (See the list of celebs especially that seem to go this route). We even have people with no symptoms or who barely show even one symptom and are "normal" after about 24 hours. Then you have lotsa young, healthy, in shape, never had a preexisting condition people you hear about that are dying or ending up in ICU on a ventilator. There really seems to be no rule Covid is following on how intensely it attacks any particular kind of person.
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