An Interview with a Doctor who has, at this date, a 100% success rate treating CV

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4:58a, 3/29/20
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Start at the 1.30 mark

Though the interviewer interrupts and talks over the Doctor too much, the information the Dr. gives is outstanding.

Some will reject this because they don't like the interviewer, but I could careless about who is doing the interview. It's the info the Dr. is giving that is what is important!
"only one thing is important!"
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6:03a, 3/29/20
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I watched the entire video. Thanks for posting!

The doctor is fantastic.

I'm also convinced that, as of now, this is the answer until we have a vaccine.
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7:47a, 3/29/20
It would be if we didn't have to get to the point of being deaths door for them not to consider you 'mild' and put you in the hospital to get the medication. There is a window of time for it to be effective. Lack of testing, inability to get results back quickly (in some areas), having to have severe symptoms to get admitted, lack of bed capacity, etc. mean that by the time you get to the point of hospital the window has often closed.
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In reply to L08 • 8:39a, 3/29/20
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L08 said:
It would be if we didn't have to get to the point of being deaths door for them not to consider you 'mild' and put you in the hospital to get the medication.
This doctor is prescribing the three drug cocktail for infected patients who are not hospitalized. Is that the exception around the country?
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In reply to L08 • 8:43a, 3/29/20
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You are so right.

The key is getting this "cocktail" before symptoms turn serious, requiring ICU.

The doc makes this clear.

And he is having near 100% success.
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In reply to TexAg91 • 8:44a, 3/29/20
TexAg91 said:
L08 said:
It would be if we didn't have to get to the point of being deaths door for them not to consider you 'mild' and put you in the hospital to get the medication.
This doctor is prescribing the three drug cocktail for infected patients who are not hospitalized. Is that the exception around the country?
Uh, yes that's the exception. We are on day 9 of waiting on results and the only reason we even got tested is because we traveled. Sent home without basically any advice let alone prescriptions...
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In reply to TexAg91 • 8:44a, 3/29/20
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TexAg91 said:
L08 said:
It would be if we didn't have to get to the point of being deaths door for them not to consider you 'mild' and put you in the hospital to get the medication.
This doctor is prescribing the three drug cocktail for infected patients who are not hospitalized. Is that the exception around the country?
Seems to be the case.
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In reply to L08 • 9:00a, 3/29/20
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POTP (post of the pandemic)

Is there a shortage of this drug? That would be the only rationale. But assuming the advil and botox factories have all or are currently being reconfigured to mass produce this, how long will it take to fill the pharmacies with it in every state but Michigan and Nevada?
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In reply to Cant Think of a Name • 10:52a, 3/29/20
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POTP (post of the pandemic)

Is there a shortage of this drug? That would be the only rationale. But assuming the advil and botox factories have all or are currently being reconfigured to mass produce this, how long will it take to fill the pharmacies with it in every state but Michigan and Nevada?


I'm pretty sure that whole "Advil makes it worse" thing is without any evidence.
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11:01a, 3/29/20
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This makes our current testing abilities/protocols as a Nation even more aggravating and frustrating.

Sure seems like we have a very effective medication treatment protocol that we are missing out on seeing full benefits from simply because we are sending people home with "too bad so sad" because of the testing Charlie Foxtrot.
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11:08a, 3/29/20
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That would have been a much better interview if Rudy had asked one question, "will you tell us what you have learned doctor?" and then let him talk.

This is what I got from it: zink kills the virus, hydroxy-chloroquine allows the zink to penetrate the virus (exactly what Dr. Reville has said), and Zithromax makes the combination much more effective perhaps by fighting off secondary infections but the doctor doesn't know the reason for sure. He's treated about 500 patients and none have needed intensive care.
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In reply to MemorialTXAg • 11:22a, 3/29/20
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No Pressure said:
Cant Think of a Name said:
POTP (post of the pandemic)

Is there a shortage of this drug? That would be the only rationale. But assuming the advil and botox factories have all or are currently being reconfigured to mass produce this, how long will it take to fill the pharmacies with it in every state but Michigan and Nevada?


I'm pretty sure that whole "Advil makes it worse" thing is without any evidence.
I think there's evidence from multiple countries that doctors are no longer using Advil.
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11:25a, 3/29/20
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This is why we need to be more proactive in getting these drugs to COVID-19 patients. The wait and see approach and the potential side effects are not a big enough risk to NOT prescribe to people that test positive.
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In reply to Cant Think of a Name • 11:32a, 3/29/20
To press out a 50,000,000 pills you need the active pharmaceutical ingredients. I am sure every nation in the world is trying to horde and manufacture it.

Which again leads us back to social distancing and flattening the curve
Hopefully this works hopefully they can Ramp up production of Api then actual doses in a few weeks which means slowing the growth rate is pretty important for another couple of weeks.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 11:35a, 3/29/20
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Given the current testing mess, I'm wondering if it's feasible to prescribe to folls who are showing very bad symptoms but still not meeting criteria for a test.

Wrong emoticon...
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In reply to Sq 17 • 11:51a, 3/29/20
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Sq 17 said:
NM... wrong forum
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11:53a, 3/29/20
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It might be just me, but I don't trust 95% of what I read on on the internet right now. This sounds awesome, and there's plenty of anecdotal evidence from even the Trustworthy doctors on Texags that this could work, but I just don't buy it until I see it in some official capacity, specifically from the CDC.
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In reply to John Matrix • 11:54a, 3/29/20
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The same CDC who gave us the screwed up tests?
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In reply to John Matrix • 12:00p, 3/29/20
even if the drug regimen works it is going to take a week to straighten out the supply schain get the doses where they are needed and get the drugs to the patients most likely to benefit. After that happens then work on gettting another 50 million doses manufactured
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In reply to John Matrix • 12:29p, 3/29/20
The CDC is a major reason the testing (or lack thereof) we are experiencing is such a snafu
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In reply to OPAG • 12:40p, 3/29/20
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OPAG said:


Start at the 1.30 mark

Though the interviewer interrupts and talks over the Doctor too much, the information the Dr. gives is outstanding.

Some will reject this because they don't like the interviewer, but I could careless about who is doing the interview. It's the info the Dr. is giving that is what is important!
Rudy's deposition style added to the interview for me. The doctor has incredible information and experiences to describe. Rudy helped to bring out some info and underline the importance of other info. Sure, they stepped on each other's toes, but the final product was improved by Rudy.

Thank you for posting the YouTube!
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In reply to Aggie95 • 1:35p, 3/29/20
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Aggie95 said:
No Pressure said:
Cant Think of a Name said:
POTP (post of the pandemic)

Is there a shortage of this drug? That would be the only rationale. But assuming the advil and botox factories have all or are currently being reconfigured to mass produce this, how long will it take to fill the pharmacies with it in every state but Michigan and Nevada?


I'm pretty sure that whole "Advil makes it worse" thing is without any evidence.
I think there's evidence from multiple countries that doctors are no longer using Advil.
You are correct, they aren't using advil(ibuprofen), but its out of an abundance of caution. Ibuprofen is processed through the kidney's and some people with covid-19 have had kidney(renal) issues, so the thinking is that ibuprofen could make it harder on your kidney's if you have covid-19. There's no evidence that I've seen that ibuprofen or any nsaid's have harmed anyone. We have acetaminophen that does the same thing for fevers so why take the chance is what I've seen mentioned by many.
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2:40p, 3/29/20
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The video is better than I expected. My takeaways:

  • He says he's treated north of 500 cases. That's frightening because it suggests the infection rate is much higher than we know. Kiryas Joel is basically 25,000 people and are the entire population of Palm Tree, NY. Palm Tree had 234 reported cases as of Friday at 6 pm. BTW, that's 3 times more than any other town in Orange County, NY (population 375,000). Kiryas Joel has 20% of the reported cases in Orange County (1,142) with 6% of the population. If he's treated 500 himself, clearly many more people are infected than testing positive. On the flipside, the high numbers in Palm Tree could also mean they are aggressively testing in comparison to the rest of the county.

  • He's been treating for 7-9 days? Basically by telemedicine? Without test results? The video was posted yesterday, but I couldn't figure out what day the interview occurred. The treatment results were first published 10 days ago, right? That's a bold move to treat 500+ people without positive tests with an experimental treatment when you are not actually in contact with any of those people. Very Bold.

  • He refused to treat some people. How are they doing?
  • Ignoring those with compromised immune systems, It isn't clear whether or not the mortality risk is related to viral load or some genetic component (blood type, etc). A community almost entirely comprised of people genetically linked by religion may not be the best place to test whether a certain drug cocktail works on the general population.

We should all pray that this treatment works. That any treatment works. But this video didn't convince me.
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3:33p, 3/29/20
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Interview was Thursday based on his comment about 9 days of treatments
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In reply to Player To Be Named Later • 5:01p, 3/29/20
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The same CDC who gave us the screwed up tests?


The same CDC who manages to keep ebola in vials in level 4 containment for decades, but can't seem to work on a vaccine until somebody lands in Dallas with the infection.
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In reply to 94chem • 5:05p, 3/29/20
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We're from the Govt and we're here to help.
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5:19p, 3/29/20
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It bugs me that Hydroxy is the name we are using.

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5:32p, 3/29/20
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Didn't watch the whole thing. 2 ?s How is he getting the assay back so fast ? and how does he have such easy access to the drug outpt?
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In reply to Player To Be Named Later • 5:49p, 3/29/20
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The same CDC who gave us the screwed up tests?
The CDC did not manufacturer the early tests with faulty reagents. It's understandable that people at the Centers thought that fixing the faulty reagents for the public-health labs would be faster than shifting to an entirely different protocol. But why were we relying only on the CDC at this early and crucial point? What the FDA could have done, and eventually did do, is say, 'You can use other approaches.' " But it's not quite fair to totally blame the FDA for this either. The FDA can design an approach to support the public-health strategy, but someone has to tell the FDA the public-health goal. The delay in clearly establishing those goals shows why the decision to shut down the NSC directorate was so consequential. Why does it matter that the Trump administration closed the White House office on pandemic preparedness? This is one reason.
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In reply to Marcus Aurelius • 6:21p, 3/29/20
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Marcus Aurelius said:
Didn't watch the whole thing. 2 ?s How is he getting the assay back so fast ? and how does he have such easy access to the drug outpt?
He isn't relying on testing. I don't know where he's getting the drugs.
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6:59p, 3/29/20
Looks like this guy might be completely full of it.

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20200324/kiryas-joel-leaders-urge-doctor-to-stop-making-videos-about-kj-virus-cases

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Village leaders and community groups issued a joint statement on Tuesday rebuking a local doctor's predictions about the spread of the coronavirus and urging him to stop posting videos online about the outbreak or else leave Kiryas Joel and the Hasidic community out of them.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
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In reply to Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag • 7:15p, 3/29/20
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
Looks like this guy might be completely full of it.

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20200324/kiryas-joel-leaders-urge-doctor-to-stop-making-videos-about-kj-virus-cases

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Village leaders and community groups issued a joint statement on Tuesday rebuking a local doctor's predictions about the spread of the coronavirus and urging him to stop posting videos online about the outbreak or else leave Kiryas Joel and the Hasidic community out of them.


Are you telling me that someone duped Sean Hannity?!?!
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In reply to Diyala Nick • 8:09p, 3/29/20
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Diyala Nick said:
Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
Looks like this guy might be completely full of it.

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20200324/kiryas-joel-leaders-urge-doctor-to-stop-making-videos-about-kj-virus-cases

Quote:
Village leaders and community groups issued a joint statement on Tuesday rebuking a local doctor's predictions about the spread of the coronavirus and urging him to stop posting videos online about the outbreak or else leave Kiryas Joel and the Hasidic community out of them.


Are you telling me that someone duped Sean Hannity?!?!
The fact that this guy is only on Hannity and wherever they have designated Rudy is telling.

The most dangerous part of this story is how week old claims have been recycled over and over the last 7 days and only bits and pieces are shown (kinda like that Iceland story).

A simple look at the numbers shows the guys is using 100's of people that haven't tested positive yet, and also his 100% claim came before his patients had even finished is treatment schedule. Dr. has since been in isolation because he is immunodeficient.

The quote above is not entirely legit either because it had to do with something unrelated. The village leaders were pissed because he said 90% of the area was (or soon would be) positive after getting 9 positives on his first 14 tests which led to some perceived antisemitic behavior.
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In reply to Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag • 8:32p, 3/29/20
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
Looks like this guy might be completely full of it.

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20200324/kiryas-joel-leaders-urge-doctor-to-stop-making-videos-about-kj-virus-cases

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Village leaders and community groups issued a joint statement on Tuesday rebuking a local doctor's predictions about the spread of the coronavirus and urging him to stop posting videos online about the outbreak or else leave Kiryas Joel and the Hasidic community out of them.

Sounds like they were ticked about him talking about the community and his predictions on its spread - not his treatment of the virus.

"Kiryas Joel leaders said in their letter to Zelenko that he's an "important and respected health care provider" and that they wrote to him "with heavy hearts." They welcomed working with him on the coronavirus crisis, but urged him to stop posting videos that are "putting our community in an unfair and undeserved spotlight."
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In reply to Diyala Nick • 3:12p, 3/30/20
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Diyala Nick said:
Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
Looks like this guy might be completely full of it.

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20200324/kiryas-joel-leaders-urge-doctor-to-stop-making-videos-about-kj-virus-cases

Quote:
Village leaders and community groups issued a joint statement on Tuesday rebuking a local doctor's predictions about the spread of the coronavirus and urging him to stop posting videos online about the outbreak or else leave Kiryas Joel and the Hasidic community out of them.


Are you telling me that someone duped Sean Hannity?!?!
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