Sterilizing suggestions

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jd1990
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Hello,

I work in one the "essential" industries. In our case telecommuting is not a possibility due to employees are needed to run the equipment. Our facility has over 700 people. I come in close contact with over 100 per day. We have taken some precautions. At home I have a 75 year old mom who lives with us and one of my kids has asthma. When i get off work I currently wash hands, change clothes and put them in washer, and shower. Should this be sufficient? I am curious what habits health care workers have when they get home to protect their families.
BlackGoldAg2011
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One other you might do that I've heard suggested is as part of your post work shower routine you could add a sinus rinse like the Neil med products. I've heard doing this at the end of the day can help flush out virus/bacteria that may have found its way there but is still in the early phase of getting into your system, flushing it out before it has a chance to make you sick. Never seen any actual studies on this but it made sense to me and can't hurt.
Tmoneyag99
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If it were my husband this would be my rules for him:

At the Job:
- Wear gloves (don't eat with them on. That defeats the purpose. Use disenfectants on the gloves and change them often. (this will actually help you with all the hand washing too). If you can't find disposable, get some dish gloves and disinfect them too.

- Wear a mask. Keep multiple masks on hand (see etsy for reusable ones. Don't buy the onese from the health care practitioners.) Switch them out periodically and have a ziploc to put them in during the day.

- Wear coveralls over your clothes.

At Home:

In this order:
- strip down in the garage.
- Put clothes directly in the washing machine and masks.
- Shower immediately. Use soap all over and scrub diligently
- Stick to only certain rooms. .


Everything should be sanitized Daily. Stay out of the at risk family member's rooms.



1) Fresh clothes would be required
combat wombat™
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I think the use of gloves is, generally, a waste of gloves. I believe that a thorough hand washing is probably just as effective, if not more so.
goatchze
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Tmoneyag99 said:

If it were my husband this would be my rules for him:

At the Job:
- Wear gloves (don't eat with them on. That defeats the purpose. Use disenfectants on the gloves and change them often. (this will actually help you with all the hand washing too). If you can't find disposable, get some dish gloves and disinfect them too.

- Wear a mask. Keep multiple masks on hand (see etsy for reusable ones. Don't buy the onese from the health care practitioners.) Switch them out periodically and have a ziploc to put them in during the day.

- Wear coveralls over your clothes.

At Home:

In this order:
- strip down in the garage.
- Put clothes directly in the washing machine and masks.
- Shower immediately. Use soap all over and scrub diligently
- Stick to only certain rooms. .


Everything should be sanitized Daily. Stay out of the at risk family member's rooms.



1) Fresh clothes would be required


Geez. Glad I'm not your husband.

Wash hands often, use social distancing, shower, change clothes.

Sounds pretty complete.
Rusty GCS
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I wouldn't want to chance much with a 75 year old and a child with asthma
Lunar_Pulse
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As a RN, here are the things that I have always done after a shift:

Take off clothes in garage
Take shoes off in garage (soak soles in bleach water if I had a C-diff patient)
Put clothes immediately in washer and start a cycle
Take a shower with lots of soap (lather twice for c-diff)
Don't touch your face as much as you can
Wash your hands, ALWAYS before eating
Try not to touch your food in general

If I was taking care of COVID positive patients I would:
All of the above plus
Self isolate from my family
Send family to live with relatives if possible
Wear a mask in public to protect public in case I have caught the virus
Sanitize my car after work

Healthcare workers need more PPE. We must protect the frontline staff. Some sites are asking staff to ignore what they know about contact precaution safety and make do with one mask per shift. I have seen pictures of nurses wearing trash bags for gowns. This makes me beyond upset. God help us if our healthcare workers start getting sick.
jd1990
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Thank you all for responses. Some I had not been doing and will start. I'll also be sharing with our Top Manger to see if we can give out information to all our employees. We have been given alot about keeping safe at work but none about what to do when you go home.
Tmoneyag99
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goatchze said:

Tmoneyag99 said:

If it were my husband this would be my rules for him:

At the Job:
- Wear gloves (don't eat with them on. That defeats the purpose. Use disenfectants on the gloves and change them often. (this will actually help you with all the hand washing too). If you can't find disposable, get some dish gloves and disinfect them too.

- Wear a mask. Keep multiple masks on hand (see etsy for reusable ones. Don't buy the onese from the health care practitioners.) Switch them out periodically and have a ziploc to put them in during the day.

- Wear coveralls over your clothes.

At Home:

In this order:
- strip down in the garage.
- Put clothes directly in the washing machine and masks.
- Shower immediately. Use soap all over and scrub diligently
- Stick to only certain rooms. .


Everything should be sanitized Daily. Stay out of the at risk family member's rooms.



1) Fresh clothes would be required


Geez. Glad I'm not your husband.

Wash hands often, use social distancing, shower, change clothes.

Sounds pretty complete.
Did you miss the part where he said "Close Contact with over 100 people a day" Each of those people are in contact with 3-4 people at minimum. That's actually 400 people he's in contact with in a day.

His child and mother are at high risk of being critical if they get it.

Those factors taken then he needs to be extra careful. Folks with low risk members can be a bit more lax but he is at high risk of contact and his family members are high risk for critical care. The gloves and mask are probably the most important of all of this and washing his hands of course but if I had a kid with asthma I wouldn't play around at all.
Tmoneyag99
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combat wombat said:

I think the use of gloves is, generally, a waste of gloves. I believe that a thorough hand washing is probably just as effective, if not more so.
Excessive handwashing can dryout and damage the skin.

Wearing gloves makes you even more concentous. Take the gloves off before you leave work.

Just an added level of control to reduce the risk of cross contamination. Remember this crap can live on surfaces for 3 days.

So if you have a habit of wearing gloves at work while you are at work and then taking them off outside before you get to your car you have created a control in place to reduce cross contamination.

You might forget to wash your hands but you won't forget to change those damned gloves.
combat wombat™
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My hands are very dry. I use hand lotion.

Gloves pick up all the germs. Can yoy effectively walk those gloves throughout there day? Are you going to touch your face with the gloves? For that to be effective you basically need to wash your gloves as many times as yoi would wash your hands throughout the day.
Sid Farkas
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Quote:

- strip down in the garage.

- Put clothes directly in the washing machine
I have a set of 'outside' clothes (warm ups) that I keep in the garage. I change in to them when I leave and wash up & change back when I get home...

Fwiw, Ive only left the house twice in the last 12 days and have not come close to contact with a person other than my wife the whole time.

I carefully (neurotically?) clean anything we bring into the house
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You could also consider swabbing your ears(and nose) with Hydrogen Peroxide before and after work. I've heard it suggested a couple of places.
Tmoneyag99
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combat wombat said:

My hands are very dry. I use hand lotion.

Gloves pick up all the germs. Can yoy effectively walk those gloves throughout there day? Are you going to touch your face with the gloves? For that to be effective you basically need to wash your gloves as many times as yoi would wash your hands throughout the day.
I used to work in a research lab at TAMU. Yes I could walk all day wearing them because I had to. Granted I changed gloves between cleaning out each room or doing animal health checks. Except for when I was changing gloves yes I wore them all day. It's possible. IMO with rubber gloves I'll be less likely to touch my face. You're more cognazant.

It seems to me that it would be better for your skin if you're going to be washing that much to wear gloves. Especially if you have dry skin. Washing hourly or every time you come in contact to one of 100 people in a day will dry the crap out of your skin even more. But ultimately its the practice of taking them off before you get to your car is the control here. You will likely forget to wash your hands at some point. You won't forget to take your gloves off. But you are right, gloves pick up the same germs your hands do and require the same washing. But gloves don't have nails. Gloves don't have knuckles or other groves and crevices for bacteria to hide. If your hands are dry they get more crevices. Reusable gloves can be stuck in a bucket of bleach water at the end of your day (or beginning) for additional sanitation to help reduce the spread..

Plus you can handle stronger chemicals more frequently if you are wearing gloves. Like purell or isopropyl alcohol if there's no soap/water immediately available.

Most women know to put lotion on before putting on the glove to keep your skin soft and hydrated. Unless you're using something like Kiehls Creme de Corps or Aquifor Eurcerin you're not doing much to repair the moisture barrier to your skin.

We have always kept rubber gloves at our house. It's a habit I got into after working at the research lab. We use them to handle meat and eggs to prevent accidental cross contamination. I use dish washing gloves when I am washing the dishes. They allow me to wash at the hottest temperature without scalding your hands and drying out/damaging your skin. Heck, When our great dane had wounds on her foot that had to be treated daily with a yellow goo that had a huge warning "Dangerous to human reproduction" I wore rubber gloves to treat her.

Rubber gloves (reusable or disposable) should probably be a staple in everyone's home.

Even then, I'm not so asinine to think that we can stop the spread with these techniques but for someone that has high risk of exposure and high risk hospitilzation at home, he needs to double down and maybe triple down on his efforts. As some have said even self isolation might be best. Maybe a group of his co-workers need to rent out a local hotel and self isolate.
EMY92
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Another option would be to self isolate from your family. Many hotels/short term rentals are now charging almost nothing.
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