Trying to Understand What Gov. Abbott Did Today

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So, I'm watching the news tonight, and apparently, the governor ordered schools closed through May 4 and put forth a lot of restrictions on businesses. I was under the impression that a state order would supersede local shelter in place orders, but then the news went on to interview B/CS mayors about a re-iteration of the local shelter in place.

I'm really confused about where I should look for what I should do. Other states just put a statewide shelter in place, but Texas is confusing me. Are these things announced for Texas today mandatory or just guidelines? Do I have to read local, state, and USA press releases and put together a meta-analysis that covers everything?

Help!
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6:19p, 3/31/20
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I think the Governor had to intervene specifically because of Austin's local ordinance that was over reaching. No real change versus local ordinances other than in Austin.
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6:24p, 3/31/20
Except May 4 schools, I guess.
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6:33p, 3/31/20
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May the 4th be with you always.
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I watched his statement. He basically extended the stay at home recommendation for all of April. He mandated schools stay closed until May 4th at the earliest. Not much really, but important because the initial 2 week recommendation was coming to an end.
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6:42p, 3/31/20
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Y'all know the kids aren't going back to school this year, right?
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In reply to Barnyard96 • 6:44p, 3/31/20
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May the 4th be with you always.
Speech therapy can help you with that lisp
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In reply to $3 Sack of Groceries • 6:51p, 3/31/20
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Yelnick McWawa said:
Y'all know the kids aren't going back to school this year, right?
Checked our ISD calendar...

Going back to school on May 5th would leave 13 days left on the school calendar...

It would take teachers at least 5 days to get students back on track for normal learning...

The school year, as far as in-class learning is concerned, is over...

Hopefully they can return in August...
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In reply to FireAg • 6:54p, 3/31/20
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FireAg said:
Yelnick McWawa said:
Y'all know the kids aren't going back to school this year, right?
Checked our ISD calendar...

Going back to school on May 5th would leave 13 days left on the school calendar...

It would take teachers at least 5 days to get students back on track for normal learning...

The school year, as far as in-class learning is concerned, is over...

Hopefully they can return in August...


Why don't we just call this a long spring break and start back May 15 - August 15th, take a two week break, kind of like "spring break" and then start back Sept 1?
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In reply to FireAg • 6:56p, 3/31/20
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FireAg said:
Yelnick McWawa said:
Y'all know the kids aren't going back to school this year, right?
Checked our ISD calendar...

Going back to school on May 5th would leave 13 days left on the school calendar...

It would take teachers at least 5 days to get students back on track for normal learning...

The school year, as far as in-class learning is concerned, is over...

Hopefully they can return in August...


You know, I understand it would only be two weeks and not much would get done on the lessons side.

But my kids are desperate to see their friends. I think the two weeks of social activities would be worth it, even if they got no learning.

2nd and 5th grade.
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In reply to agsalaska • 6:57p, 3/31/20
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They will need to set up play dates this summer, assuming there are easing on restrictions...

They aren't going back to school this semester...
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In reply to dallasag00 • 6:58p, 3/31/20
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I think the Governor had to intervene specifically because of Austin's local ordinance that was over reaching. No real change versus local ordinances other than in Austin.
I honestly don't know. How did Austin over reach?
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In reply to FireAg • 6:59p, 3/31/20
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They will need to set up play dates this summer, assuming there are easing on restrictions...

They aren't going back to school this semester...
Unfortunately I agree with you.


My point was it aint all about the learning.



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In reply to Premium • 7:00p, 3/31/20
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Premium said:
FireAg said:
Yelnick McWawa said:
Y'all know the kids aren't going back to school this year, right?
Checked our ISD calendar...

Going back to school on May 5th would leave 13 days left on the school calendar...

It would take teachers at least 5 days to get students back on track for normal learning...

The school year, as far as in-class learning is concerned, is over...

Hopefully they can return in August...


Why don't we just call this a long spring break and start back May 15 - August 15th, take a two week break, kind of like "spring break" and then start back Sept 1?


Because helicopter parents would ***** about McKynnley not getting her summer vacation to horse camp.
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In reply to agsalaska • 7:01p, 3/31/20
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agsalaska said:
FireAg said:
Yelnick McWawa said:
Y'all know the kids aren't going back to school this year, right?
Checked our ISD calendar...

Going back to school on May 5th would leave 13 days left on the school calendar...

It would take teachers at least 5 days to get students back on track for normal learning...

The school year, as far as in-class learning is concerned, is over...

Hopefully they can return in August...


You know, I understand it would only be two weeks and not much would get done on the lessons side.

But my kids are desperate to see their friends. I think the two weeks of social activities would be worth it, even if they got no learning.

2nd and 5th grade.


I'm a teacher, and I agree with you (assuming the numbers for this virus are declining, and it's safe to resume). Not only do I miss my students already, but they all miss school and each other as well. We generally spend the last month reviewing for STAAR, taking the STAAR exam, and celebrating our year. I would be thrilled to get 2-3 weeks with my students in May (our last day is May 22nd.
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There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.
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There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.
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7:09p, 3/31/20
seems likely if the kids go back they will go through the first week of june, i dont think they are going back but extending the end of school a week or two is pretty easy to do
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zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
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nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)
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nai06 said:
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zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.
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cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.
I fundamentally disagree with you.
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Like the OP, I'm still not clear what was ordered today. Other than schools to May 4. The Gov referenced a webpage, but I didn't find it on the state website.
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cityagboy said:
Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.
I fundamentally disagree with you.


Which part? Why should teachers be exempt from a furlough if they can't do their job?
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Premium said:
cityagboy said:
Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.
I fundamentally disagree with you.


Which part? Why should teachers be exempt from a furlough if they can't do their job?
Most of them are currently working.

I also feel like they are underpaid based on the importance of their job. I'm not going to debate that sentence if you disagree.
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Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.


Incorrect. Teachers are paid to teach 9 months out of the year. They elect to divide their pay up over 12 months so they have money coming in all 12 months. This is why teachers get paid to teach summer school. Teachers are curently expected to work now offering online content or the state won't fund the school. This crisis should have taught us how under paid teachers are.
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Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.


Incorrect. Teachers are paid to teach 9 months out of the year. They elect to divide their pay up over 12 months so they have money coming in all 12 months. This is why teachers get paid to teach summer school. Teachers are curently expected to work now offering online content or the state won't fund the school. This crisis should have taught us how under paid teachers are.


It sounds like you agree with me. Delay school for 5 weeks during the quarantine and fulfill the remainder of the 9 months after the day.
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I had to go to Forum 16 to get accurate info about the Governor's EO. If that ain't a sign of the end times, I don't know what is.
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Lunar_Pulse said:
Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.


Incorrect. Teachers are paid to teach 9 months out of the year. They elect to divide their pay up over 12 months so they have money coming in all 12 months. This is why teachers get paid to teach summer school. Teachers are curently expected to work now offering online content or the state won't fund the school. This crisis should have taught us how under paid teachers are.


While I agree with all of this, the last statement is questionable. This crisis shows to me how important content creators on YouTube are. The online content teachers are putting out is something out of a public Access TV station in the 60s. Why do we need 200 people teaching the same common lesson on acute angles?

Texas ISD should be able to centralize some of this content while having teachers do remote tutoring in small groups. Or something.
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Premium said:
Lunar_Pulse said:
Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.


Incorrect. Teachers are paid to teach 9 months out of the year. They elect to divide their pay up over 12 months so they have money coming in all 12 months. This is why teachers get paid to teach summer school. Teachers are curently expected to work now offering online content or the state won't fund the school. This crisis should have taught us how under paid teachers are.


It sounds like you agree with me. Delay school for 5 weeks during the quarantine and fulfill the remainder of the 9 months after the day.
One major problem (outside of pay) with this idea is the unknown. What if this (covid/ social distancing) goes into the summer. Then kids COMPLETELY lost the second half of the year. That really messes up high school kids.

We need at least high school kids to continue as much as possible. I say as much as possible because I know there are MANY factors that could limit certain kids/ families.
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Like the OP, I'm still not clear what was ordered today. Other than schools to May 4. The Gov referenced a webpage, but I didn't find it on the state website.


He extended the social distancing order until the end of april

No school for a while

And

Most importantly, he said the entire state will follow the guidelines set forth by the federal govt concerning what is considered essential and that state policy will supersede county or city policy.

It was a pretty direct attack at adler and eckhardt.
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culdeus said:
Lunar_Pulse said:
Premium said:
cityagboy said:
nai06 said:
Premium said:
zachsccr said:
There are a lot of low income families and families with 2 working parents that would greatly benefit from even 2-3 work weeks with their kids back in school.
I wouldn't want to be a teacher in that situation but it would be a huge ease of burden for a LOT of people. Not to mention the ancillary services that just follow the local ISD decisions.


Also, just add 4 weeks on the end of the school year. So perplexing why this isn't being thought about.


Because you are going to have to pay teachers 20 additional days of pay. That's about an extra $6K per teacher. That's going to bankrupt a lot of districts who haven't budgeted for that increase in payroll
I would say that investment would be worth it for State and National govt to step in and cover that cost. (If it's safe to go back to school then)


Teachers should have to suck it up with the kids. They are paid to teach a full school year and just because you can't work properly doesn't mean you can't make it up later. Maybe we should just furlough all of the teachers for the next 5 weeks and see if they want to make it up the following 5 weeks.


Incorrect. Teachers are paid to teach 9 months out of the year. They elect to divide their pay up over 12 months so they have money coming in all 12 months. This is why teachers get paid to teach summer school. Teachers are curently expected to work now offering online content or the state won't fund the school. This crisis should have taught us how under paid teachers are.


While I agree with all of this, the last statement is questionable. This crisis shows to me how important content creators on YouTube are. The online content teachers are putting out is something out of a public Access TV station in the 60s. Why do we need 200 people teaching the same common lesson on acute angles?

Texas ISD should be able to centralize some of this content while having teachers do remote tutoring in small groups. Or something.
More central education is not the answer, at least in the broad spectrum. In this covid world... maybe it is, I don't know.
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In reply to who?mikejones • 8:12p, 3/31/20
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who?mikejones said:
Thomas Ford 91 said:
Like the OP, I'm still not clear what was ordered today. Other than schools to May 4. The Gov referenced a webpage, but I didn't find it on the state website.


He extended the social distancing order until the end of april

No school for a while

And

Most importantly, he said the entire state will follow the guidelines set forth by the federal govt concerning what is considered essential and that state policy will supersede county or city policy.

It was a pretty direct attack at adler and eckhardt.
I asked earlier and didn't get an answer. I honestly don't know. What were the issues with overreach in Austin?

Side note- I hate Adler
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