Actually my take way from that is you don't want to get it if you have underlying conditions.
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Sex as well.
I've seen a few reports from media outlets highlighting someone who has no "underlying conditions" dying from this disease, then posts a picture of said person easily pushing 300+ pounds.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
Don't 50% of Americans have Hypertension? Therefore, at least 50% of Americans have an underlying condition?
According to the CDC, 78% of adults 55 and older have at least one chronic condition: "arthritis, current asthma, cancer, cardiovascular disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and diabetes"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/health_policy/adult_chronic_conditions.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/health_policy/adult_chronic_conditions.htm
Yeah the problem with the generic "underlying conditions" is that it could run the gamut from mild to severe.
Your average American likely has some kind of "underlying condition".
Your average American likely has some kind of "underlying condition".
Read a paper that COVID-19 pts with HTN 6% mortality. Vs 1.4% or so overall.
Arkansas case? Noticed that as well.Forum Troll said:
I've seen a few reports from media outlets highlighting someone who has no "underlying conditions" dying from this disease, then posts a picture of said person easily pushing 300+ pounds.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
I don't see obesity listed at the bottom. The 2 that died (ages 18-44) with no underlying conditions could have been 450 lb 44 year olds for all we know.Forum Troll said:
I've seen a few reports from media outlets highlighting someone who has no "underlying conditions" dying from this disease, then posts a picture of said person easily pushing 300+ pounds.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
Marcus Aurelius said:
Read a paper that COVID-19 pts with HTN 6% mortality. Vs 1.4% or so overall.
HTN?
hypertension
What's the rate of people walking around that don't know they have an underlying condition? And does it correlate with these numbers?
If they managed to get to 450 lbs and have NONE of the co-morbidities, other than obesity, it's a damned shame they passed away. They should have been in clinical studies to understand their miracle condition.Jet Black said:I don't see obesity listed at the bottom. The 2 that died (ages 18-44) with no underlying conditions could have been 450 lb 44 year olds for all we know.Forum Troll said:
I've seen a few reports from media outlets highlighting someone who has no "underlying conditions" dying from this disease, then posts a picture of said person easily pushing 300+ pounds.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
Was that untreated HTN, treated and controlled HTN, or both?Marcus Aurelius said:
Read a paper that COVID-19 pts with HTN 6% mortality. Vs 1.4% or so overall.
I would assume that is not HTN well controlled with meds? I can think of no pathophysiological reason if your blood pressure is 110/70 on meds would be any greater risk than if it was 110/70 on no meds.Marcus Aurelius said:
Read a paper that COVID-19 pts with HTN 6% mortality. Vs 1.4% or so overall.
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Depends on the guidelines. I was pre HTN for a bit, registering low 130s and mid-80s until I did all the lifestyle tricks and everything dropped back to good range. The American Heart Assocation then changed the guidelines and suddenly a huge chunk of the country was once again hypertensive. The definiton seems to jump around a good bit and many doctors have different views on the utility of a single threshold.Quote:
Don't 50% of Americans have Hypertension? Therefore, at least 50% of Americans have an underlying condition?
So I've got 2 strikes against me, plus hypertension...Quote:
- 14 of 1,139 deaths had no preexisting conditions (although plenty of preexisting conditions pending)
- 2 of those 14 were under 45
- 10 of 14 were male
What's quite clear is 45 & under carries very little risk. Being female carries greatly reduced risk.
Case in UK had a family attend a funeral for someone who died of COVID-19. Then I think 17 people caught it while at the funeral, including a lady who died in her 50s with "no underlying conditions" who had a picture where she is at least 350.Gumby said:Arkansas case? Noticed that as well.Forum Troll said:
I've seen a few reports from media outlets highlighting someone who has no "underlying conditions" dying from this disease, then posts a picture of said person easily pushing 300+ pounds.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
There was another article I saw on reddit from Michigan I think with a high school aged kid that played football who was also a very large individual that died in addition to family members I believe who were also extremely large.
I know that the media likes to stoke fear for clicks, but morbid obesity is a major problem and all this fat acceptance crap the last few years has to stop.
I feel like underlying conditions is so broad that I would really like to know the numbers just for those with underlying conditions (i.e. hospitalization/death rate vs Mild symptoms)
Have you seen this broken down age? All else equal, curious to see the mortality rate is for 40 with HTN (controlled or not controlled) versus 60+ with HTN (controlled or not controlled).Marcus Aurelius said:
Read a paper that COVID-19 pts with HTN 6% mortality. Vs 1.4% or so overall.
Lots of talk here but I posted yesterday that the first two people that I can call friends died last week of the virus. One was 41 and he had no underlying conditions. Ex Marine and in perfect health as one could be. Just had a physical in January and was told by Doc he would live to be a 100. He went to the gym every morning, ran 4 miles in the evening, never smoked etc. etc.
The other friend has just turned 51. Did not even have high blood pressure and also about as in shape and healthy. I had hunted with him in Colorado and he would climb mountains better than the mules we used. I never even knew him to even get a cold.
Risk factors and numbers can be analyzed and discussed all you want.....all I know is the first two people I know who die of this damn disease are two of the most healthy guys I know of all my friends. One of the Docs said he surely could not explain it. It scares the heck out of me.
Take care all you good Ags out there and take as good a care as you can of yourselves. Don't want to loose any Texags friends either!!
The other friend has just turned 51. Did not even have high blood pressure and also about as in shape and healthy. I had hunted with him in Colorado and he would climb mountains better than the mules we used. I never even knew him to even get a cold.
Risk factors and numbers can be analyzed and discussed all you want.....all I know is the first two people I know who die of this damn disease are two of the most healthy guys I know of all my friends. One of the Docs said he surely could not explain it. It scares the heck out of me.
Take care all you good Ags out there and take as good a care as you can of yourselves. Don't want to loose any Texags friends either!!
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What if it is controlled due to meds, in my case an ADR, Benicar. What others have said puts me at risk the meds. Yet while on it my blood pressure stays great.
I thought folks that were on ace inhibitors for hbp were potentially at increased risk?
There was a research article posted in one of the other threads, link to the article here. I'm wondering if some of these "younger" patients who are in really good shape happened to die due to fluid overload, as cited in the article. Of course, it doesn't change the fate of your friends or anyone else, but just a thought that ran through my head.Gunny456 said:
Lots of talk here but I posted yesterday that the first two people that I can call friends died last week of the virus. One was 41 and he had no underlying conditions. Ex Marine and in perfect health as one could be. Just had a physical in January and was told by Doc he would live to be a 100. He went to the gym every morning, ran 4 miles in the evening, never smoked etc. etc.
The other friend has just turned 51. Did not even have high blood pressure and also about as in shape and healthy. I had hunted with him in Colorado and he would climb mountains better than the mules we used. I never even knew him to even get a cold.
Risk factors and numbers can be analyzed and discussed all you want.....all I know is the first two people I know who die of this damn disease are two of the most healthy guys I know of all my friends. One of the Docs said he surely could not explain it. It scares the heck out of me.
Take care all you good Ags out there and take as good a care as you can of yourselves. Don't want to loose any Texags friends either!!
wouldnt that affect O2 adsorption?Marcus Aurelius said:
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Well given the current political climate, I'm now changing my gender pronoun to she/her. I can't do anything about my HTN that is genetic.
I don't think anyone has said zero risk for those under 65.
If I recall in that paper I read (sorry no links I can't find it) it did not break down controlled or uncontrolled HTN. Rather simply HTN.
No.Ragoo said:wouldnt that affect O2 adsorption?Marcus Aurelius said:
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Forum Troll said:Case in UK had a family attend a funeral for someone who died of COVID-19. Then I think 17 people caught it while at the funeral, including a lady who died in her 50s with "no underlying conditions" who had a picture where she is at least 350.Gumby said:Arkansas case? Noticed that as well.Forum Troll said:
I've seen a few reports from media outlets highlighting someone who has no "underlying conditions" dying from this disease, then posts a picture of said person easily pushing 300+ pounds.
I'm guessing this is more official and likely includes morbid obesity as a underlying condition.
There was another article I saw on reddit from Michigan I think with a high school aged kid that played football who was also a very large individual that died in addition to family members I believe who were also extremely large.
I know that the media likes to stoke fear for clicks, but morbid obesity is a major problem and all this fat acceptance crap the last few years has to stop.
Saw something similar for a family in NJ. Most of them looked obese but the report said they had no underlying conditions. I'm about 15 pounds overweight and I've lost 5 pounds since this thing started. Survival is a damn good weight loss motivation.
That is incredibly tragic and what makes this thing so incredibly frustrating. I read of 90 year old folks surviving and then I read this. Unbelievable.Quote:Quote:
Risk factors and numbers can be analyzed and discussed all you want.....all I know is the first two people I know who die of this damn disease are two of the most healthy guys I know of all my friends. One of the Docs said he surely could not explain it. It scares the heck out of me.
Take care all you good Ags out there and take as good a care as you can of yourselves. Don't want to loose any Texags friends either!!
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