11 Suicide Deaths in Montgomery County

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12:32a, 4/14/20
Since March 23. No matter your stance, or how much you want to be a hero or renegade, spend time with those who are alone and in need.

I say this as a single man who doesn't have a wife or kids. My closest family is 11.5 hrs away, my mom who is 68. She's in good health, but I'm pressured to go this alone for the good of society.

I have a good, rewarding job to keep me busy, and friends to text and talk to. I'm in good mental health,
but feel alone like many other people.

Yet there are others, good people in a bad situation,
that now feel powerless, alone, and have even less reason to reach out. They might think that their death serves and even greater good because of propaganda out now.

Do more than text. Do more than talk. Take a risk and love someone in person. That might just have a better chance at saving a life than staying at home.

https://m.chron.com/neighborhood/woodlands/news/article/Montgomery-County-officials-sound-concerns-over-15193220.php?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2WbYfPg7bPl3tVMl0Vz2C_lVt5dmV_e6IsHZaoDEuj2LzN9J3KhFIjFT0
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
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1:24a, 4/14/20
So true

Open it up!

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5:45a, 4/14/20
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The economic and mental health costs are really going to add up quickly. The cure is worse than the disease.
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In reply to Dr.HeadCase • 7:35a, 4/14/20
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I'm not "concerned" with it, but if it rises, it absolutely needs to be factored into the numbers. Everything needs to be factored into the numbers. As I've said from the beginning, we aren't saving everyone. But we need to find out the best and quickest way back to getting some kind of balance between normal life and staying under the curve of the overloaded health system. ASAP. So having every bit of data possible is the only way to make the best, most informed decision.
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8:36a, 4/14/20
I have continued to see my mother, who is in her 60s, and my inlaws, who are in their 80s.

There might be a world where I can no longer hug my kids or my parents, but it is not a world that I want to live in.
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8:45a, 4/14/20
I don't think it's fair to speculate why someone committed suicide.

If suicides have taken a drastic jump up from normal since activities have been limited, or if many or most are from the ranks of the recently unemployed, it should be looked at. But need bigger sample sizes. It's a tragedy no matter the cause and unfortunately has been on the rise in recent years, around 49,000 per year in the US and that would equate to nearly 100 in a year in a county the size of Montgomery. It's awful and has a life long impact on the people who loved that person.
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8:48a, 4/14/20
This should be counted as a "shutdown death." I don't care what a person's actual reason was, just like the medical folks don't care if someone is shot and bleeds to death. "If they had Corona, it's a Corona death."
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In reply to bmart97 • 8:50a, 4/14/20
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bmart97 said:
The economic and mental health costs are really going to add up quickly. The cure is worse than the disease.
There have presumably been some suicides that were at least partly influenced by the stress of this crisis, but note from the article linked in the OP, the article stated this:

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It is not known why the 11 chose to die by suicide, and several officials did not want to theorize that the deaths were related to COVID-19. Over the past five years, Montgomery County has seen more deaths by suicide in the months from January to June than other parts of the year.
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In reply to wargograw • 8:52a, 4/14/20
wargograw said:
This should be counted as a "shutdown death." I don't care what a person's actual reason was, just like the medical folks don't care if someone is shot and bleeds to death. "If they had Corona, it's a Corona death."
Thats already been determined in this thread.
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In reply to Dr.HeadCase • 10:03a, 4/14/20
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In reply to Dr.HeadCase • 10:09a, 4/14/20
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Dr.HeadCase said:
It's been interesting seeing how many people who never previously had any concern over our perennially underfunded and understaffed infectious disease prevention systems or the rise in outbreaks of zoonotic viruses before all of this are now suddenly concerned about infection statistics.
FIFY.
We're from North California, and South Alabam
and little towns all around this land...
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In reply to pocketrockets06 • 10:19a, 4/14/20
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pocketrockets06 said:
Amen. I'm also expecting the concerns over poverty and unemployment to carry over when this crisis is through.


Enough with all of y'all's pointless attempts to get a "gotcha" in on each other. It's so incredibly petty on both sides.

Any discussion of our the response to COVID19 which doesn't attempt to look at all the ramifications is just foolish. This is something that we can all logically agree on, but far too many of you are spending far too much time trying to paint the other side into a corner that really doesn't fit anyone.

No one is saying to shut down society forever to prevent a few people from dying sooner than they otherwise would have.

No one is saying that zero precautions should be taken to reduce the infection rates and death tolls.

Yet y'all spend most of your time on here arguing past each other at positions no one is taking.

What are you getting out of that, exactly?
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In reply to DTP02 • 10:30a, 4/14/20
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You're right. That was petty. Forgive me for my frustration because I feel like I'm in the category of people that do count the costs on both sides but I see many people here who appear to be using the damage caused by the shutdown as a political weapon and not an issue they actually care about based on posting history. I'll delete my post.
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In reply to NASAg03 • 10:51a, 4/14/20
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Thank you for posting this as it is something the rib and I we have been discussing with friends and family for weeks now. Hopefully your point is not missed with folks attempting to score thread points.

I am blessed to have a wife and two dogs to keep me company. We are also blessed with a circle of family/friends who live very close. Multiple times we have driven by and had "driveway-time" where we bring a couple folding chairs and visit at distance.

It hurts my heart when I think of all of those who have to do this alone. So many young, single service industry workers who have served us lunch/dinner or drinks are out of a job and have little more than a small, empty apartment. If you know people in this situation, have a driveway visit. Call them and "ask them In for dinner. Login to Uber eats or door dash and schedule food/drink to be delivered to them and then have a video meeting with them during dinner.

Hang in there NASAag03. I hope more folks will take some time to check in on those who are on their own.
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In reply to pocketrockets06 • 11:12a, 4/14/20
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pocketrockets06 said:
You're right. That was petty. Forgive me for my frustration because I feel like I'm in the category of people that do count the costs on both sides but I see many people here who appear to be using the damage caused by the shutdown as a political weapon and not an issue they actually care about based on posting history. I'll delete my post.


Sorry to seem to single you out. There were others on this thread I could have responded to as well, but yours was the last one I read.

It's frustrating to me that while we are all going thru this shared ordeal, so many people on here are entrenched in "camps" that demonize and mischaracerize the other camp.

I would have expected to see a little more unity coming from this. Not only are we all going thru this together, but I think most people are a lot closer philosophically on how we should be responding than many seem to think.
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11:42a, 4/14/20
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It is good that people will now start to look and see how high suicide numbers are and how much of a mental health issue we really have.

Even before all of this Corona Virus issue, you would all be shocked at how many of our calls at the PD are mental health related. We probably get more suicidal person, mental health related types of calls than domestics, etc. It seems there are lots of days that they are the majority of our calls.

Before this, I'd bet that most of the "open it up" crowd was blissfully unaware of just how much of an issue it is these days. It will be a good thing if this opens people's eyes to the issue. It has dramatically increased since I started 18 years ago. And right now we don't seem to be getting any more of those types of calls than we were 4 months ago.

Covid19 hasn't seemed to have made this any worse than it was already where I am.

Texas ranks near last for Mental Health funding. That's a far bigger issue than what Covid19 is doing to it. If you are truly concerned, I expect you to be contacting your State Reps to let them know that's unacceptable. Unless you're just looking for Interweb Gotcha Points to "open it up"
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In reply to bmart97 • 11:43a, 4/14/20
bmart97 said:
The cure is worse than the disease.

NO
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In reply to Player To Be Named Later • 12:11p, 4/14/20
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Player To Be Named Later said:


Before this, I'd bet that most of the "open it up" crowd was blissfully unaware of just how much of an issue it is these days. It will be a good thing if this opens people's eyes to the issue. It has dramatically increased since I started 18 years ago. And right now we don't seem to be getting any more of those types of calls than we were 4 months ago.

if the repeated acts of mass violence committed by mentally disturbed individuals, resulting threat to second amendment rights, and massive increases in homelessness, haven't woken people up i'm not as optimistic an increase in suicide rates will do the trick.

hope i'm wrong, but...

We're from North California, and South Alabam
and little towns all around this land...
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In reply to California Ag 90 • 12:13p, 4/14/20
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Just as in those cases, most people only care about the mental health issue when it suits their narratives
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12:20p, 4/14/20
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On the positive side, the lock downs have caused a reduction in traffic and pollution related deaths.
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