Any additional research into why children seem to fare so well?

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Out of 15,251 deaths currently cataloged by the CDC, the age breakdown is:

0-1 years - 0
1-4 years - 2
5-14 years - 1
15 - 24 years - 14

That is approximately 0.1% of all fatalities from a cohort that represents roughly 33% of the population.

Why?

Do any other viruses affect humans in such a pronounced way?
One Eyed Reveille
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They actually can walk it off.
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0.1% even

totally agree. is it just that kids have fewer ACE2 receptors?
Seven Costanza
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Edit: non-productive guessing out of ass.
jt16
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Because we're too afraid to say that being obese and unhealthy is the leading factor to not faring well with this disease. Children are largely not obese even if they're already living unhealthy lifestyles
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I have been listening to experts on Dr. Radio and they have no clue.....and that was exactly how one expert said it, no clue. They are grateful that the information does show That kids are not affected at the rate adults are.
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jt16 said:

Because we're too afraid to say that being obese and unhealthy is the leading factor to not faring well with this disease. Children are largely not obese even if they're already living unhealthy lifestyles
Who's afraid of saying that? That's literally the overwhelming factor I hear everywhere.
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Belton Ag said:

jt16 said:

Because we're too afraid to say that being obese and unhealthy is the leading factor to not faring well with this disease. Children are largely not obese even if they're already living unhealthy lifestyles
Who's afraid of saying that? That's literally the overwhelming factor I hear everywhere.


Really? Because all I hear is that this virus kills at random.
Belton Ag
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jt16 said:

Belton Ag said:

jt16 said:

Because we're too afraid to say that being obese and unhealthy is the leading factor to not faring well with this disease. Children are largely not obese even if they're already living unhealthy lifestyles
Who's afraid of saying that? That's literally the overwhelming factor I hear everywhere.


Really? Because all I hear is that this virus kills at random.
Yes really.

I'm shocked that you haven't heard that obesity is the major contributor to COVID deaths of those who aren't elderly.
TAMU1990
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Reveille thinks one of the reasons is that kids have higher rates of melatonin than adults. He's advising his patients to take melatonin at night.
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Belton Ag said:

jt16 said:

Belton Ag said:

jt16 said:

Because we're too afraid to say that being obese and unhealthy is the leading factor to not faring well with this disease. Children are largely not obese even if they're already living unhealthy lifestyles
Who's afraid of saying that? That's literally the overwhelming factor I hear everywhere.


Really? Because all I hear is that this virus kills at random.
Yes really.

I'm shocked that you haven't heard that obesity is the major contributor to COVID deaths of those who aren't elderly.
Of course we who frequently visit an information board are going to find that out. He isn't saying that he has never heard this.

A lot of average people who just watch the media probably don't understand this. How often do you actually hear the national media touch on the topic?
KidDoc
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I have theories but no proof.

Several viruses that are totally different than COVID are easier for kids to handle, especially prior to teen years. These include mono and chicken pox primarily. I believe this is because children younger than 12ish have a significantly more active immune system. Their lymphoid tissue is much larger, they get higher fevers, they produce greater amounts of inflammatory mediators.

With COVID I think they are able to defeat the virus when it is still in the nasopharynx and prevent lung infection. It seems to be nothing more than a common coronavirus to their robust immune systems. However, it is VERY likely they are spreading it like crazy when they are fighting it off as they do not do well covering coughs or sneezes.

Just my theory from 21 years in Pediatrics.
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beerad12man
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Probably a pretty sound theory
chimpanzee
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KidDoc said:

However, it is VERY likely they are spreading it like crazy when they are fighting it off as they do not do well covering coughs or sneezes.

Just my theory from 21 years in Pediatrics.
Perhaps true broadly, but this data point would point in the opposite direction for COVID. French ski chalet, numerous infections over a short period of time, one 9-year old contracts it as well and despite being in contact with many over the following days/weeks, no transmission from the kid was detected.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa424/5819060

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The fact that an infected child did not transmit the disease despite close interactions within schools suggests potential different transmission dynamics in children.

ETA - this was published 10 days ago, I haven't seen it until today.

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chimpanzee said:

KidDoc said:

However, it is VERY likely they are spreading it like crazy when they are fighting it off as they do not do well covering coughs or sneezes.

Just my theory from 21 years in Pediatrics.
Perhaps true broadly, but this data point would point in the opposite direction for COVID. French ski chalet, numerous infections over a short period of time, one 9-year old contracts it as well and despite being in contact with many over the following days/weeks, no transmission from the kid was detected.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa424/5819060

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The fact that an infected child did not transmit the disease despite close interactions within schools suggests potential different transmission dynamics in children.

ETA - this was published 10 days ago, I haven't seen it until today.


Thanks that is really interesting and very confusing! That germy kid had picorno and flu at the same time as COVID wow. Talk about a good immune system!

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This thread posed a mechanism that would explain age dependency. Unfortunately, I am too ignorant to understand it.
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3107265
Belton Ag
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beerad12man said:

Belton Ag said:

jt16 said:

Belton Ag said:

jt16 said:

Because we're too afraid to say that being obese and unhealthy is the leading factor to not faring well with this disease. Children are largely not obese even if they're already living unhealthy lifestyles
Who's afraid of saying that? That's literally the overwhelming factor I hear everywhere.


Really? Because all I hear is that this virus kills at random.
Yes really.

I'm shocked that you haven't heard that obesity is the major contributor to COVID deaths of those who aren't elderly.
Of course we who frequently visit an information board are going to find that out. He isn't saying that he has never heard this.

A lot of average people who just watch the media probably don't understand this. How often do you actually hear the national media touch on the topic?
I didn't learn it from this board, I heard it by listening to the docs in the national media. I'm not going to say that the average person completely understands this, but that's not because "we're afraid of saying it."
KidDoc
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WTF- this virus is so confusing. One case had virus in his trachea but not nose. From that article:

Case 13 had an endotracheal aspirate (ETA) positive at D4 with SARS-CoV-2 (viral load of 2.4 log10 copies/1000 cells), while negative in the nasopharyngeal swabs (NPS) collected since admission (8 days). The NPS of the same day and the following days remained negative. The daily follow-up revealed a short-lasting excretion with only two successive ETA with a lower viral load (2.4 log10 and 1.1 log10 copies/ 1000 cells, respectively, Figure 4), the subsequent ETA remained negative. All cases were negative for other viruses except for the pediatric case, who had a SARS-CoV-2 + picornavirus (rhinovirus or enterovirus) + influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 co-infection. His two siblings were negative for the SARS-CoV-2, but had an Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 infection, and an Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 + picornavirus co-infection
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