Good News LA county study infection numbers way higher than first thought

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https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-shows-hundreds-of-thousands-l-a-county-infected

"The estimated infection numbers are 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed COVID-19 cases L.A. County had reported at the time of the study in early April."

Death rate would be way lower than thought. That's good news.
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That would certainly fall in line with this. Good news indeed.

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3107920
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Will be even better news when/if we find out these antibody tests are accurate. But isn't this just another article referencing the USC study that has been posted about already? Or is this a new and different study?
Windy City Ag
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Same study already dissected in other threads.
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If this whole thing has taught us anything, it's that we should temper enthusiasm / concerns with any newly released studies / information. The waves of euphoria / panic in response to every article (many of which fade away in the wind due to not being accurate).

I don't know why we haven't learned that from the media yet..... (Jessie Smollet, etc, etc, etc)
DadHammer
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sorry I thought that was a different study
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Windy City Ag said:

Same study already dissected in other threads.
You sure. That link was much fewer.

The results were determined from antibody testing of about 863 people who were representative of L.A. County, the researchers said, according to the L.A. Times.

The estimated infection numbers are 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed COVID-19 cases L.A. County had reported at the time of the study in early April.

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Let's see how these antibody studies play out. We were all super excited about HCQ and nobody seems to be talking about that as much either.

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/current-covid-19-antibody-tests-aren-t-accurate-enough-for-mass-screening-say-oxford
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Player To Be Named Later said:

If this whole thing has taught us anything, it's that we should temper enthusiasm / concerns with any newly released studies / information. The waves of euphoria / panic in response to every article (many of which fade away in the wind due to not being accurate).

I don't know why we haven't learned that from the media yet..... (Jessie Smollet, etc, etc, etc)
Because people post the same things day after day as if it's yet another study and others believe it's so. Also, it sure seems to me very few people apply common sense and free thought to anything anymore. They just allow their media source of choice to spoon feed them and never challenge the data.
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Well, it's a good thing then that the media thoroughly delves into the studies and makes sure they are sound before they run with them.
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Player To Be Named Later said:

Let's see how these antibody studies play out. We were all super excited about HCQ and nobody seems to be talking about that as much either.




Wait what? I was told that it was a proven treatment.
bay fan
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The media reports the existence of a study, they don't validate it. Its like reporting a plane crash....it crashed, the media doesn't know why.

It's up to individuals to use their ability to think freely and apply reason. Blaming the media is silly when you have your very own brain.
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Player To Be Named Later said:

Let's see how these antibody studies play out. We were all super excited about HCQ and nobody seems to be talking about that as much either.

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/current-covid-19-antibody-tests-aren-t-accurate-enough-for-mass-screening-say-oxford

Actually, many of us were not super excited we were saying show me the proof which others said meant we didn't want there to be an effective treatment. What it actually meant ties into the other part of our conversation on this thread, some applied logic and the need for data before they bought in to obviously unscientific propaganda while others ran with it.
Windy City Ag
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Yes, same study from USC estimating 220-440K infected.

It was red meat for the arguments raging in the Stanford Study thread.

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3107364/6
DadHammer
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Physician Poll: Treating COVID-19 Patients with Antimalarial Drugs
65 Percent of Physicians in New Survey Would Give Anti-Malaria Drugs to Their Own Family to Treat COVID-19

https://jacksoncoker.com/about/in-the-news/physician-poll-on-covid-19-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine/

ATLANTA, April 8, 2020 -- Sixty-five percent of physicians across the United States said they would prescribe the anti-malaria drugs chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine to treat or prevent COVID-19 in a family member, according to a new survey released today by Jackson & Coker, one of the country's largest physician staffing firms.
Only 11 percent said they would not use the drug at all.
Meanwhile, 30 percent of the surveyed doctors said they would prescribe the medications to a family member prior to the onset of symptoms if they had been exposed to the novel coronavirus, a highly contagious virus that causes a pneumonia-like infection of the lungs.
"Working in healthcare, we've learned the best way to get a candid perspective on treatment options from a physician is to ask: 'Would you give this to your family?'" said Tim Fischer, President of Jackson & Coker. "Families across the U.S. and the world really want to know what they can do to protect and save their loved ones."
DadHammer
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Cool, thx.
Duncan Idaho
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I am not sure how that shows it is a proven treatment.

Of course an MD would prescribe or take it if they had covid-19. Any chance is better than no chance.

Never mind that the article is 3 weeks old.
DadHammer
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So what is your point?
Duncan Idaho
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My point is that your article about a survey is pretty worthless.

Fwiw I know this is hard for you to believe but I hope it works. Hell I am taking zinc and Quercetin.

We just can't act like it does until it is show to work
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Why is the HCQ issue being merged with an antibody study of who has already been infected with the Covid virus?
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That study is trash and will likely fail peer review and be redacted.

If you want to know the details help yourself.

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Duncan Idaho
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Those ****ers that wrote this paper are going to get a lot of people killed.
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Honestly at this point it's just proving that dadhammer is incapable of linking multiple days points into a rational thought
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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/20/838943211/73-of-inmates-at-an-ohio-prison-test-positive-for-coronavirus

Sure hope some researcher and reporter follows up on this. Could be a good indication of asymptomatic and paucisymptomatic percentages since they tested everyone.
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Keegan99 said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/20/838943211/73-of-inmates-at-an-ohio-prison-test-positive-for-coronavirus

Sure hope some researcher and reporter follows up on this. Could be a good indication of asymptomatic and paucisymptomatic percentages since they tested everyone.
Very interesting! I wish they would give more details like what test kits they used.

Still a good captive audience to test!
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Duncan Idaho
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Keegan99 said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/20/838943211/73-of-inmates-at-an-ohio-prison-test-positive-for-coronavirus

Sure hope some researcher and reporter follows up on this. Could be a good indication of asymptomatic and paucisymptomatic percentages since they tested everyone.

When life hands you lemons....

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As an aside to this..... if 73% are already testing positive, what would the benefit be to releasing thousands of inmates? Wouldn't you just be releasing a possibly large number of contagious individuals out into society?

I would understand if it was a low number testing positive and trying to "save" people.... but at 73% that cat is already out of the bag and I'm not understanding the battle cry to release people. Except that it's the ACLU clamoring for that I suppose.

But from a pure scientific standpoint, it doesn't make much sense.
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