Fauci on Remdesivir

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1:04p, 4/29/20
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Probably the only drug he's had something positive to say.

And if you want something negative to talk about, the WHO is saying it's too early to comment on the results so attack them
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In reply to Crocs • 1:05p, 4/29/20
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which is weird cuz the WHO was the first official body to front run Remdesivir
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1:11p, 4/29/20
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It seems like a great first step towards getting a handle on this thing.
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1:15p, 4/29/20
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WHO - There is no evidence of COVID19 human to human transmission.

After putting out that statement i have become automatically skeptical anytime the WHO starts a sentence with "There is no evidence".
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1:17p, 4/29/20
Probably got his stock portfolio shifted around.
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1:21p, 4/29/20
Definitely not enough evidence and study design not such to really show real clinical significance in my opinion. I am hopeful but would prefer something far more robust than what they are doing currently.
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In reply to Crocs • 1:25p, 4/29/20
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Crocs said:


Probably the only drug he's had something positive to say.

And if you want something negative to talk about, the WHO is saying it's too early to comment on the results so attack them
The WHO and China came out earlier in the week and said it didn't work. Not sure where you saw too early, they straight up said it doesn't work (while China was also trying to make its own version of the drug and patent it).

Funny that Fauci supports this but trashes the HCQ/Zinc/Zpac, when we're not seeing much difference in outcomes with these (meanwhile, this is about a grand a dose versus like $10 for the trifecta).
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In reply to Crocs • 1:30p, 4/29/20
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Fauci hasn't been wrong to hold his water until a decent trial had positive results. Because of his honesty, I have real faith we are on the right track. He isn't a man prone to chasing sparkly objects and having to retract or pretend he didn't say it so now I believe this has a chance of being a break through.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 1:36p, 4/29/20
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AG 2000' said:
Crocs said:


Probably the only drug he's had something positive to say.

And if you want something negative to talk about, the WHO is saying it's too early to comment on the results so attack them
The WHO and China came out earlier in the week and said it didn't work. Not sure where you saw too early, they straight up said it doesn't work (while China was also trying to make its own version of the drug and patent it).

Funny that Fauci supports this but trashes the HCQ/Zinc/Zpac, when we're not seeing much difference in outcomes with these (meanwhile, this is about a grand a dose versus like $10 for the trifecta).
Bingo - $900 vs $10
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In reply to bay fan • 1:37p, 4/29/20
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Exactly. This at least means we are on the right path.
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In reply to bay fan • 1:38p, 4/29/20
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Him and Gottlieb both bullish on this today. Speaks volumes IMO.
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1:38p, 4/29/20
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The WHO seems to be influenced by pressure from China, or makes premature assessments too often. It does appear now that remdesivir does what it was engineered to do, and cuts back on the viral load by interfering with replication. If a patient isn't already too damaged for their immune system to get ahead, or doesn't have an immune overreaction, it would seem logical that this medication would reduce the severity of the disease and speed recovery in most, and more effectively if given earlier than later.
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In reply to Pulmcrit_ag • 1:38p, 4/29/20
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the NIH study isn't robust enough?
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In reply to TAMU1990 • 1:39p, 4/29/20
Wendy 1990 said:
AG 2000' said:
Crocs said:


Probably the only drug he's had something positive to say.

And if you want something negative to talk about, the WHO is saying it's too early to comment on the results so attack them
The WHO and China came out earlier in the week and said it didn't work. Not sure where you saw too early, they straight up said it doesn't work (while China was also trying to make its own version of the drug and patent it).

Funny that Fauci supports this but trashes the HCQ/Zinc/Zpac, when we're not seeing much difference in outcomes with these (meanwhile, this is about a grand a dose versus like $10 for the trifecta).
Bingo - $900 vs $10
So is the new conspiracy that this is a ruse to charge higher drug prices?
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 1:47p, 4/29/20
AG
I thought the hydroxycloroquine stuff wasn't working?
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In reply to Charpie • 1:50p, 4/29/20
Don't let that small fact get in the way of the new narrative
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1:52p, 4/29/20
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Almost every analyst that looked at the China outcome discarded it as they could not find enough folks to participate in the study.

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A trial in China testing Gilead Sciences Inc's antiviral drug, remdesivir, in those with mild symptoms of COVID-19 has been suspended due to a lack of eligible patients, according to a website maintained by the U.S. government.

The study was conducted by researchers in China and the suspension was posted on Wednesday on clinicaltrials.gov , a database maintained by the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Criteria for inclusions in the study included a positive COVID-19 lab test, hospitalization with fever and cough, and fewer than eight days since the onset of the illness.





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In reply to terradactylexpress • 1:53p, 4/29/20
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I know that, Dino! Long time no see!

Wish we could keep garbage like that off of these threads

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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 1:56p, 4/29/20
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The WHO and China came out earlier in the week and said it didn't work. Not sure where you saw too early, they straight up said it doesn't work (while China was also trying to make its own version of the drug and patent it).

This is not true. The WHO either leaked or accidentally shared some preliminary findings on its website and then quickly retracted the document. No one officially said anything.

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2:04p, 4/29/20
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I thought Trump cut all funding to the WHO? seems they are wanting this to spread more and they like causing fear
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In reply to DCAggie13y • 2:08p, 4/29/20
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Gumby said:
WHO - There is no evidence of COVID19 human to human transmission.

After putting out that statement i have become automatically skeptical anytime the WHO starts a sentence with "There is no evidence".
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The January WHO tweet reported "preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".

But in the same week top WHO officials were briefing health leaders around the world to keep looking out for signs of such transmission, and to take precautions as if it was already happening.
...meh; what ever gets your feathers ruffled I guess.

I would say this distraction outrage is just another example of why Twitter sucks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/who-cited-human-transmission-risk-in-january-despite-trump-claims
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In reply to Charpie • 2:21p, 4/29/20
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Charpie said:
I thought the hydroxycloroquine stuff wasn't working?


Very much TBD still. Still lots of anecdotal support for it, and one highly flawed study showing no efficacy. I think the point is that the trifecta working as the anecdotes suggest it does would be a much bigger development because, if it works it can be effective much earlier in the infection and it's widely available and cheap as dirt. As treatments go, that's the holy grail, which is a big part of why people have been so hopeful for it (rather than politics as many suggest, since Trump boosted Remdesivir in the same presser he boosted hydroxychloroquine).
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