Are we immune if we get Covid-19?

3,584 Views | 24 Replies | Last: 5 yr ago by Player To Be Named Later
Rutedown
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I've heard you are immune if you get Covid-19, but then I see an article like this that states that there just isn't enough data yet to be 100% sure.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-antibodies/most-covid-19-patients-get-antibodies-but-immunity-unclear-uk-official-idUSKBN22G2AA
beerad12man
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I think it's pretty clear. If you get it, get over it, you likely won't become infected again. Or even in the 1 in a million chance you are, have already fought it off so why wouldn't you again?
Duncan Idaho
How long do you want to ignore this user?
No. it isnt pretty clear.

This hasn't been around long enough to know of immunity is durable or not or for how long. It might be 6 months? It might be a year, it might be for life.
cbr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
beerad12man said:

I think it's pretty clear. If you get it, get over it, you likely won't become infected again. Or even in the 1 in a million chance you are, have already fought it off so why wouldn't you again?
based upon what information?

i would say not only is it not at all clear, but that this information has not been made available to the public.

after 6 months, some people know the answer. yet we are still playing armageddon/lockdown despite inconsequential current statistics. (unless it affects you or someone you love).

something still does not add up at all.
eric76
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Rutedown said:

I've heard you are immune if you get Covid-19, but then I see an article like this that states that there just isn't enough data yet to be 100% sure.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-antibodies/most-covid-19-patients-get-antibodies-but-immunity-unclear-uk-official-idUSKBN22G2AA
Nobody really knows. It seems most likely that you will get some immunity, but nobody knows how long it will last.

The figures I've seen for other coronaviruses is that immunity from the ones that cause a cold last about about a year (one figure I saw was 45 weeks) and immunity from SARS is something like 2 or 3 years.
beerad12man
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm not saying it's for life. This strand could be completely different in 5 years. But for all intents and purposes, from this strand you'd likely be good to go. Just like will all others.

It's in every reveille post. Fauci said it's a reasonable assumption since it isn't changing much. Just what I've pieced together seems like a good bet even if not "100%" because quite frankly, what is 100% right now? We can make up hypotheticals for anything.
Player To Be Named Later
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A "reasonable assumption" is much different than "It's pretty clear"
FTAG 2000
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
beerad12man said:

I'm not saying it's for life. This strand could be completely different in 5 years. But for all intents and purposes, from this strand you'd likely be good to go. Just like will all others.

It's in every reveille post. Fauci said it's a reasonable assumption since it isn't changing much. Just what I've pieced together seems like a good bet even if not "100%" because quite frankly, what is 100% right now? We can make up hypotheticals for anything.
There is no scientific evidence as of yet to indicate that you will have immunity, or if so, for how long.

To state otherwise is irresponsible.

Based on the past of all viruses, there's likely some period of immunity, but we just don't know. And that also assumes that China didn't play god with this and engineer it to the extent no immunity confers.

Reveille
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AG 2000' said:

beerad12man said:

I'm not saying it's for life. This strand could be completely different in 5 years. But for all intents and purposes, from this strand you'd likely be good to go. Just like will all others.

It's in every reveille post. Fauci said it's a reasonable assumption since it isn't changing much. Just what I've pieced together seems like a good bet even if not "100%" because quite frankly, what is 100% right now? We can make up hypotheticals for anything.
There is no scientific evidence as of yet to indicate that you will have immunity, or if so, for how long.

To state otherwise is irresponsible.

Based on the past of all viruses, there's likely some period of immunity, but we just don't know. And that also assumes that China didn't play god with this and engineer it to the extent no immunity confers.


I disagree! We have a proven study with monkeys showing immunity after infection. Now of course we don't have human trials because we are not going to purposefully try to reinfect a human with SARS-COV2. But to say there is no scientific evidence of immunity is not correct. Now how long that immunity will last is a different question that we do not know.

Also if the virus has some significant mutation on the S or M protein this could possible effect immunity also but the coronavirus family is not historically known to have that type of mutation. It would also possible effect the viruses ability to infect cells as it uses these proteins to enter our cells, so I don't think this is likely at all.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
FTAG 2000
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Reveille said:

AG 2000' said:

beerad12man said:

I'm not saying it's for life. This strand could be completely different in 5 years. But for all intents and purposes, from this strand you'd likely be good to go. Just like will all others.

It's in every reveille post. Fauci said it's a reasonable assumption since it isn't changing much. Just what I've pieced together seems like a good bet even if not "100%" because quite frankly, what is 100% right now? We can make up hypotheticals for anything.
There is no scientific evidence as of yet to indicate that you will have immunity, or if so, for how long.

To state otherwise is irresponsible.

Based on the past of all viruses, there's likely some period of immunity, but we just don't know. And that also assumes that China didn't play god with this and engineer it to the extent no immunity confers.


I disagree! We have a proven study with monkeys showing immunity after infection. Now of course we don't have human trials because we are not going to purposefully try to reinfect a human with SARS-COV2. But to say there is no scientific evidence of immunity is not correct. Now how long that immunity will last is a different question that we do not know.

Also if the virus has some significant mutation on the S or M protein this could possible effect immunity also but the coronavirus family is not historically known to have that type of mutation. It would also possible effect the viruses ability to infect cells as it uses these proteins to enter our cells, so I don't think this is likely at all.
Good deal, I stand corrected. Hadn't seen the monkey study.
Reveille
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AG 2000' said:

Reveille said:

AG 2000' said:

beerad12man said:

I'm not saying it's for life. This strand could be completely different in 5 years. But for all intents and purposes, from this strand you'd likely be good to go. Just like will all others.

It's in every reveille post. Fauci said it's a reasonable assumption since it isn't changing much. Just what I've pieced together seems like a good bet even if not "100%" because quite frankly, what is 100% right now? We can make up hypotheticals for anything.
There is no scientific evidence as of yet to indicate that you will have immunity, or if so, for how long.

To state otherwise is irresponsible.

Based on the past of all viruses, there's likely some period of immunity, but we just don't know. And that also assumes that China didn't play god with this and engineer it to the extent no immunity confers.


I disagree! We have a proven study with monkeys showing immunity after infection. Now of course we don't have human trials because we are not going to purposefully try to reinfect a human with SARS-COV2. But to say there is no scientific evidence of immunity is not correct. Now how long that immunity will last is a different question that we do not know.

Also if the virus has some significant mutation on the S or M protein this could possible effect immunity also but the coronavirus family is not historically known to have that type of mutation. It would also possible effect the viruses ability to infect cells as it uses these proteins to enter our cells, so I don't think this is likely at all.
Good deal, I stand corrected. Hadn't seen the monkey study.
No problem!
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
VKint
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
COVID is closely related to SARS. From a Chinese study (therefore huge grain of salt):
"SARS-specific antibodies were maintained for an average of 2 years [...] Thus, SARS patients might be susceptible to reinfection 3 years after initial exposure.

Common cold corona virus gives ~ 8 month immunity.

Bottom line is no one knows what will happen re immunity, there will in all likelihood be immunity for months to years. Vaccine is the ultimate answer of course.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
Player To Be Named Later
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
That's good news..... and bad. I'm pretty sure a lot of people who've had this and recovered are not too excited to ride that bull a 2nd time.
Duncan Idaho
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Player To Be Named Later said:

A "reasonable assumption" is much different than "It's pretty clear"

Wait a second...I have a reasonable assumption that I am fantastic in bed. Are you saying that might not be the case?
Player To Be Named Later
How long do you want to ignore this user?
eric76
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
VKint said:

COVID is closely related to SARS. From a Chinese study (therefore huge grain of salt):
"SARS-specific antibodies were maintained for an average of 2 years [...] Thus, SARS patients might be susceptible to reinfection 3 years after initial exposure.

Common cold corona virus gives ~ 8 month immunity.

Bottom line is no one knows what will happen re immunity, there will in all likelihood be immunity for months to years. Vaccine is the ultimate answer of course.
As I understand it, having a disease usually gives a better and longer lasting immunity than a vaccine in most cases, but there are some vaccines that provide better immunity than the disease.

Do you have any guesses about how long might we reasonably think that the immunity from a covid-19 vaccine would last?

Also, could the immunity from a mild case of covid-19 be expected to be about the same as the immunity from a more serious case? Or would it possibly be more like the immunity from having a coronavirus that causes a common cold?
TXAggie2011
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A lot of these comments by the professionals are in response to a policy sphere where things like, among others, "infection passports" are being suggested. (Example chosen because that's what sparked the WHO statement that caused some people some grief.)

Its absolutely appropriate to exert caution here, lest policy decisions could be made and relied upon that fail catastrophically at some point. Maybe they don't fail next month. Maybe its 6 months from now. Or whenever.

(*The point is not to say assume there is no immunity for no amount of time, but to caution against misappropriated confidence. Common mistake among policymakers. You end up in trouble when the useful life of your policy choices reach its end. Especially if that end is considerably sooner than contemplated.)
fullback44
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
If you get it take HQ, Zpac and Zinc...

This seems to be the real answer...
johnnyblaze36
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Player To Be Named Later said:

That's good news..... and bad. I'm pretty sure a lot of people who've had this and recovered are not too excited to ride that bull a 2nd time.
Except for the fact that most people never even knew they hopped on the bull to begin with.
DadHammer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Player To Be Named Later said:

That's good news..... and bad. I'm pretty sure a lot of people who've had this and recovered are not too excited to ride that bull a 2nd time.

More than likely they will have some immunity. With the low numbers of people that get really sick compared to not sick at all, the second round may be like the normal cold. Who knows, but I don't see it being too much of an issue in a few months.

Life just has to go on.
Player To Be Named Later
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Yes, yes, we all know how you feel by now.
DadHammer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
And you as well my friend.
beerad12man
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Player To Be Named Later said:

A "reasonable assumption" is much different than "It's pretty clear"


Nah. Not really
OKC~Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I would have said that once you get it, you should be immune for rest of the season until it mutates...

now scientist are saying that it already mutated and if you had first variant, you may get a mutated version again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-mutant-coronavirus-has-emerged-even-more-contagious-than-the-original-study-says/ar-BB13COF3?OCID=ansmsnnews11

bottom line, how long your immunity will last remains unknown.
Betoisafurry
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Player To Be Named Later
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Goodness that would be really bad news. More contagious and screwing with the ability to create vaccines? Let's pray that this is not the case.
Refresh
Page 1 of 1
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.