Has any website combined all the EU countries cases and deaths versus the ones from the States? I was not able to find one.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

If you go there, you can tab over to Europe and see collected numbers. You can also see USA by itself.

France, England, Germany, Italy and Spain have a combined population similar to the US. They have a combined 117,000 deaths.

This is what I was looking for. Thank you.

Semi off topic, but long after this is over that will be the debate - how many people actually died from it and who counted correctly. We know that lots of countries are likely undercounting (China, Russia etc), we also know average deaths and where we are against that, some places are counting probables some aren't, some are missing nursing homes some aren't, so the statistical analysis when this is done will be really interesting.

My personal guess is that we are somewhat understating it in the developed democratized world but not by a lot, but way undercounting in most other places either because of politics or lack of ability to test. Who knows how many people actually died in China - and Russia is reporting a death rate under 1 percent. With the health of that country that seems highly unlikely, even with decent reporting and testing.

Socialized medicine for the win'

queso1 said:

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Socialized medicine for the win'

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Coupled with a demographic that smells like Ben Gay and garlic. Perfect storm.