Sports fan attendance waiver

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RandyAg98
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Would you sign a waiver releasing Texas A&M of all COVID-related liability to be able to attend games at Kyle Field this fall IN PERSON?
RandyAg98
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My answer is YES
GAC06
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Why would a sports venue need a waiver in the first place?
BowSowy
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I think most would. But they aren't going to allow fans at sports venues just because the fans sign a waiver
Franklin Delano Bluth
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Sure

I'll also sign a Kyle field waver for werewolf attacks & vampire bites
NorthFultonAg07
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I would sign one! Kyle needs to be loud or it wont be the same!
zachsccr
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Need to see my odds of COVID complications vs rabies complications from bat bites first.
Belton Ag
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Franklin Delano Bluth said:

Sure

I'll also sign a Kyle field waver for werewolf attacks & vampire bites
A vampire bite would probably solve the immunity issue when it comes to COVID so you may be on to something.
swampdog01
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Make no mistake, liability is going to play a bigger factor in attendance than actual virus statistics. Sad but that's where we are in the world since we shut it down.
And I have no hope that our government will get something passed to eliminate the impasse.
BigRobSA
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GAC06 said:

Why would a sports venue need a waiver in the first place?


Do we also have to sign one for the flu, the yearly pandemic?
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
One Eyed Reveille
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Does Kyle Field need to sign a waiver since it houses all those bats,?
jjdad1111
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How would one prove that a disease was acquired at the sports venue? Why is liability now an issue when, for years, you've possibly been exposed to TB, deadly versions of flu, etc.?
RandyAg98
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It just will be. Anyone hesitant about "re-opening" has liability front of mind. If you think someone won't take this opportunity to sue, you are naive.
jjdad1111
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They're also gonna have to answer my first question.
MJ20/20
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Absolutely.
twk
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A&M doesn't need one, since, as a state institution, it has sovereign immunity.

Now, I suppose some private schools and pro sports teams might theoretically find them somewhat useful, but I'm not sure that a signed waiver is really going to be required. They can probably print a warning on the tickets and achieve the same thing.
Dddfff
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I wonder how many fans know what is on the back of tickets...
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Beat the Hell said:

I wonder how many fans know what is on the back of tickets...
Constructive notice is a wonderful concept.
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RandyAg98 said:

My answer is YES
FamousAgg
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Do I need to sign one to watch from my house?
MJ20/20
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You have a multi pass, you're good.
nai06
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twk said:

A&M doesn't need one, since, as a state institution, it has sovereign immunity.

Now, I suppose some private schools and pro sports teams might theoretically find them somewhat useful, but I'm not sure that a signed waiver is really going to be required. They can probably print a warning on the tickets and achieve the same thing.
Sovereign Immunity doesn't absolve Texas A&M of any and all liability. It creates an additional hurdle but doesn't bar anyone from ever suing the state or Texas A&M.
twk
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nai06 said:

twk said:

A&M doesn't need one, since, as a state institution, it has sovereign immunity.

Now, I suppose some private schools and pro sports teams might theoretically find them somewhat useful, but I'm not sure that a signed waiver is really going to be required. They can probably print a warning on the tickets and achieve the same thing.
Sovereign Immunity doesn't absolve Texas A&M of any and all liability. It creates an additional hurdle but doesn't bar anyone from ever suing the state or Texas A&M.
Sovereign immunity, for the state, grants immunity from suit and immunity from liability. Both have to be waived in order for one to actually recover. Of course, these are affirmative defenses, and there is nothing to stop anyone from filing a suit where ultimate recovery will be barred by the doctrine. But, subtantively, Texas may well have the broadest sovereign immunity protection of any state in the Union, and, procedurally, the state even has the right to take an interlocutory appeal from a trial court order denying summary judgment on that ground.
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twk said:

nai06 said:

twk said:

A&M doesn't need one, since, as a state institution, it has sovereign immunity.

Now, I suppose some private schools and pro sports teams might theoretically find them somewhat useful, but I'm not sure that a signed waiver is really going to be required. They can probably print a warning on the tickets and achieve the same thing.
Sovereign Immunity doesn't absolve Texas A&M of any and all liability. It creates an additional hurdle but doesn't bar anyone from ever suing the state or Texas A&M.
Sovereign immunity, for the state, grants immunity from suit and immunity from liability. Both have to be waived in order for one to actually recover. Of course, these are affirmative defenses, and there is nothing to stop anyone from filing a suit where ultimate recovery will be barred by the doctrine. But, subtantively, Texas may well have the broadest sovereign immunity protection of any state in the Union, and, procedurally, the state even has the right to take an interlocutory appeal from a trial court order denying summary judgment on that ground.


And everything you just posted doesn't mean A&M could never be sued or held liable in a civil suit. You said yourself it could be waived. That actually happens (as I'm sure you know). Its definitely a high hurdle but it's not impossible. I should have referenced the ability to waive immunity in my response.
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A&M isn't going to waive it. In fact, I believe the Legislature would have to do so, but someone with more experience in that area can correct me on that.
Burrus86
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Would the waiver also apply to Levy concessions? That may be the underlying motive with COVID as a smokescreen.
TexasAggie008
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Would sign one covering 100% of everything if that's the answer to more being open / accessible

Takes a special kind of a hole to get covid and then think "who can I sue!?"
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