How is this NOT going to lead to a spike in cases?
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Last: 5 yr ago by DCAggie13y
If we have a spike in Texas, this is why. Not because of opening up businesses. On the other hand, if we don't overwhelm the hospitals in the next two weeks? Time to get back to 100% normal.
That's basically a single football game.
I really hope we don't see a spike. Its a natural expirement that will either prove or disprove the dangers of outdoor transmission.
agreed, and after watching some of the videos, it appears that an overwhelming majority of people at the protest yesterday in Houston were wearing masks, so with minimal effort football could be in a relatively normal state this fall.Gumby said:
I really hope we don't see a spike. Its a natural experiment that will either prove or disprove the dangers of outdoor transmission.
Mid day news just had a medical expert on talking about how we should be concerned about Ebola (9 cases) in the Congo as well as a measles outbreak in Africa. You also saw the medical group coming out that racism is a bigger threat to the public than Covid and the protests should continue.
The crisis is moving on.
The crisis is moving on.
Are those church people meeting out in the open again!
Politics aside, I hope we don't see a spike for the health of everyone involved, and it will mean that the virus is less dangerous than we feared and more of our economy can open up.
Don't care
We need to be open full steam ahead and those at higher risk need to take precautions
We need to be open full steam ahead and those at higher risk need to take precautions
Same, it's better for everyone if there isn't a spike.
T&P for footballOKG2000 said:agreed, and after watching some of the videos, it appears that an overwhelming majority of people at the protest yesterday in Houston were wearing masks, so with minimal effort football could be in a relatively normal state this fall.Gumby said:
I really hope we don't see a spike. Its a natural experiment that will either prove or disprove the dangers of outdoor transmission.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/three-oklahoma-state-players-test-positive-for-coronavirus-freshmen-told-not-to-report-to-campus/
"After attending a protest in Tulsa AND being well protective of myself, I have tested positive for COVID-19," Ogbongbemiga said on Twitter. "Please, if you are going to protest, take care of yourself and stay safe."AggieOO said:T&P for footballOKG2000 said:agreed, and after watching some of the videos, it appears that an overwhelming majority of people at the protest yesterday in Houston were wearing masks, so with minimal effort football could be in a relatively normal state this fall.Gumby said:
I really hope we don't see a spike. Its a natural experiment that will either prove or disprove the dangers of outdoor transmission.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/three-oklahoma-state-players-test-positive-for-coronavirus-freshmen-told-not-to-report-to-campus/
That seems awfully fast - exposure over the weekend and testing positive on Tuesday?Dazed and Confused said:
"After attending a protest in Tulsa AND being well protective of myself, I have tested positive for COVID-19," Ogbongbemiga said on Twitter. "Please, if you are going to protest, take care of yourself and stay safe."
Also - even the peaceful protests people are yelling, masked or not. Will for sure be an interesting couple of weeks as people go back home.
I think symptoms can start as early as 3 days after infection so it seems plausible.
I bet there aren't many 80 year olds in that crowd. We're probably fine.
I think you are right. Cases not Deaths. Unless they go home and expose a bunch of old/at-risk folks.
That's an overreaction.
Gizzards said:
That's an overreaction.
Your point? You think there won't be more of this stuff as we get closer to football season? What happens when cases pop up during training camp? Maybe the overreacting gets worse.
Regardless of the side you are on, this could be problematic.
It's an overreaction because having some players from each team test positive is absolutely expected given the percentage of asymptomatic carriers that exist. This will likely repeat itself multiple times. T&P for the season implies that this could cause it to be cancelled. If that actually occurs then those decision makers should go ahead and cancel now as they clearly aren't up to speed on the epidemiological here. Isolate the ones who test positive from the outset and continue a system of regular testing as the season goes on. It's really that simple and shouldn't mean we need to extend thoughts and prayers for the season.
You obviously took T&P way too literally.
This is an excellent point. Nobody would have been able to do this as an experiment but it turns out it is a great test of large outdoor uncontrolled events like tail-gating and football.Gumby said:
I really hope we don't see a spike. Its a natural expirement that will either prove or disprove the dangers of outdoor transmission.
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I was just discussing the timing of all this with a friend yesterday. COVID went from being literally the most talked about event of our lifetimes, with no end in sight, to suddenly, within 48 hours, hardly anyone discussing it at all - something I'm still somewhat in shock over, and obviously never could have predicted.
But yeah, knock on wood, *if* these protest somehow don't result in a new spike in cases, we could not have asked for a better experiment or blessing, so to speak. The protests will not only have caused what is increasingly appearing to be a genuine change, racially, but they will have "cured" our fear of COVID as well.
That's just incredible to me.
But yeah, knock on wood, *if* these protest somehow don't result in a new spike in cases, we could not have asked for a better experiment or blessing, so to speak. The protests will not only have caused what is increasingly appearing to be a genuine change, racially, but they will have "cured" our fear of COVID as well.
That's just incredible to me.
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So if there isn't a spike is that enough evidence that we can at least move on from this disaster? Everyone seems to agree there should be one based on everything we have been told. Fingers crossed this is just one more piece of evidence that we should get on with our lives.
that's some mighty fine wishful thinking you got going
Haven't posted on this board in a while. Good to see you're still the same ol' Negative Nancy as always.
shoot the heretic
how dare you question germ theory
don't you know nature will look past vulnerabilities if your cause is righteous
how dare you question germ theory
don't you know nature will look past vulnerabilities if your cause is righteous
Dude. Chill. There's a big fat "if" in my post, a "knock on wood," etc. I caveated my comments in every way possible. Still, it's ok to speak hopefully every so often.
i'm also hopeful that the two months of warnings about killing grandma that maintained with regard to mass gatherings, even outside ones, were just bull**** and we can just ignore them at will
especially when it's for something really important
especially when it's for something really important
Well we are seeing a spike here in Texas.
Without more data we can only guess that the two are related. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Could be that we have a ton of smaller clusters from bars. That said, the protests would certainly be a leading candidate for an explanation.
If Texas is anything like Florida, however, the new infections are predominantly among a much younger, healthier demographic.
It's almost as if the state should focus on protecting care facilities, the remainder of the at-risk population should protect themselves, and the rest of the population should be good, kind, respectful citizens, but otherwise get on with life.
If Texas is anything like Florida, however, the new infections are predominantly among a much younger, healthier demographic.
It's almost as if the state should focus on protecting care facilities, the remainder of the at-risk population should protect themselves, and the rest of the population should be good, kind, respectful citizens, but otherwise get on with life.
It looks like we lost on this one.TCTTS said:
I was just discussing the timing of all this with a friend yesterday. COVID went from being literally the most talked about event of our lifetimes, with no end in sight, to suddenly, within 48 hours, hardly anyone discussing it at all - something I'm still somewhat in shock over, and obviously never could have predicted.
But yeah, knock on wood, *if* these protest somehow don't result in a new spike in cases, we could not have asked for a better experiment or blessing, so to speak. The protests will not only have caused what is increasingly appearing to be a genuine change, racially, but they will have "cured" our fear of COVID as well.
That's just incredible to me.
We have definitely had a spike.
Of course, now the powers that be are trying to blame this spike on bars and Memorial Day, but I guess that's not unexpected.
People of integrity expect to be believed, when they're not, they let time prove them right.
Dad-O-Lot said:It looks like we lost on this one.TCTTS said:
I was just discussing the timing of all this with a friend yesterday. COVID went from being literally the most talked about event of our lifetimes, with no end in sight, to suddenly, within 48 hours, hardly anyone discussing it at all - something I'm still somewhat in shock over, and obviously never could have predicted.
But yeah, knock on wood, *if* these protest somehow don't result in a new spike in cases, we could not have asked for a better experiment or blessing, so to speak. The protests will not only have caused what is increasingly appearing to be a genuine change, racially, but they will have "cured" our fear of COVID as well.
That's just incredible to me.
We have definitely had a spike.
Of course, now the powers that be are trying to blame this spike on bars and Memorial Day, but I guess that's not unexpected.
Texas had a spike but a lot of other states didn't. We are at record lows in Virginia despite the protests. Same for nearly all of the Northeast and mid,-Atlantic.
Im starting to think that there is a certain level that needs to be reached for this thing to start declining. Texas hasn't reached that point but a lot of other states have. For those that have already hit critical mass, the protests had zero impact.
That's what I think too.
Didn't they have mass amounts of people in the streets of Europe? No spike there either.
I just think we were Virgin territory.
Didn't they have mass amounts of people in the streets of Europe? No spike there either.
I just think we were Virgin territory.
beerad12man said:
If we have a spike in Texas, this is why. Not because of opening up businesses. On the other hand, if we don't overwhelm the hospitals in the next two weeks? Time to get back to 100% normal.
Arguing right now that the protests are still a week behind and this is because of opening up texas too soon. How long is the delay again? 3 weeks from the protests?
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