Lowest US cases since 3/25

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11:29a, 6/9/20
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17k according to https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

In spite of record testing and opening the country back up, and protests and rioting that have been going on for over 10 days

Do keep washing your hands. This is the most consistent thing everyone can agree on.

Enjoy life friends.
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Duncan Idaho
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12:28p, 6/9/20
This is just getting started
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 12:55p, 6/9/20
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What is just getting started?
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Duncan Idaho
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1:02p, 6/9/20
The rate and scope of infections...not to mention the number of deaths and hospitalizations.


People might not care about get sick or who it will kill because "it only kills the old or the fat" but 100,000's will die and millions will be hospitalized from it before it is over.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 1:12p, 6/9/20
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Duncan Idaho said:
The rate and scope of infections...not to mention the number of deaths and hospitalizations.


People might not care about get sick or who it will kill because "it only kills the old or the fat" but 100,000's will die and millions will be hospitalized from it before it is over.
So about 113,00 have died in the USA from COVID-19 to date? Are we going to double or triple that? That's quite a jump.
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In reply to Mikeyshooter • 1:23p, 6/9/20
Is it? This is has primarily been a large urban center problem. Rural areas are starting to feel the heat.

Phoenix is close to triggering their surge plans.

The south might not have subways but we do have churches.

And the current count has been the result of a massive effort to keep that count as low as possible.....those efforts stopped.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 1:24p, 6/9/20
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don't forget the protests

those are all over
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In reply to cone • 1:26p, 6/9/20
the protests are going to cause a pretty big spike. Dont know of anyone that has said differently
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In reply to Mikeyshooter • 1:36p, 6/9/20
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Mikeyshooter said:
Duncan Idaho said:
The rate and scope of infections...not to mention the number of deaths and hospitalizations.


People might not care about get sick or who it will kill because "it only kills the old or the fat" but 100,000's will die and millions will be hospitalized from it before it is over.
So about 113,00 have died in the USA from COVID-19 to date? Are we going to double or triple that? That's quite a jump.

I would say we will certainly triple that before a vaccine is out.

Deaths in the US from Covid-19

4/1/20 5,102
5/1/20 65,753
6/1/20 106,545

Months ago I thought the US toll would be between 50k and 250k. I now think we will probably go over 250k even though deaths have been slowing for 7 weeks now.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 1:39p, 6/9/20
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the silence was pretty deafening over the last two weeks

killed public trust
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In reply to PJYoung • 1:41p, 6/9/20
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it's easily going to go over 250k
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1:52p, 6/9/20
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I don't look at one day totals, but at 7 day moving averages which have been slowly moving downward since April, even with things opening up which I find extremely encouraging for additional relaxing of restrictions. Saw kids playing baseball yesterday. Community pools opened up last weekend. We are olds and still cautious, but we welcome opening up for younger folks.
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In reply to revvie • 1:53p, 6/9/20
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revvie said:
I don't look at one day totals, but at 7 day moving averages which have been slowly moving downward since April, even with things opening up which I find extremely encouraging for additional relaxing of restrictions. Saw kids playing baseball yesterday. Community pools opened up last weekend. We are olds and still cautious, but we welcome opening up for younger folks.


Went to Home Depot, lowes, H-E-B, academy, and target. Only people wearing masks were employees af target and H-E-B. Good to see.
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In reply to cone • 2:04p, 6/9/20
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cone said:
the silence was pretty deafening over the last two weeks

killed public trust
From an objective policy point of view, it's hard to allow the scale of the protests and then continue to tell relatively small, likely more distanced gatherings for whatever reason that they are not allowed.

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In reply to revvie • 2:07p, 6/9/20
The seven day average have been moving down on a NATIONAL level because of the significant decline in the tristate area.

If you remove those, it is going in the wrong direction.
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In reply to aggiegolfer03 • 2:18p, 6/9/20
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aggiegolfer03 said:
cone said:
the silence was pretty deafening over the last two weeks

killed public trust
From an objective policy point of view, it's hard to allow the scale of the protests and then continue to tell relatively small, likely more distanced gatherings for whatever reason that they are not allowed.

Where are you that gatherings are not allowed?
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In reply to cc_ag92 • 2:27p, 6/9/20
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cc_ag92 said:
aggiegolfer03 said:
cone said:
the silence was pretty deafening over the last two weeks

killed public trust
From an objective policy point of view, it's hard to allow the scale of the protests and then continue to tell relatively small, likely more distanced gatherings for whatever reason that they are not allowed.

Where are you that gatherings are not allowed?
I meant that in the generalist of terms...

"gathering" could be a full church congregation or a sporting event for example.

Or a business like a gym.



I'm in Texas fwiw.
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5:05p, 6/9/20
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Here in Virginia our deaths and hospitalizations have dropped dramatically after we opened up. Not sure the lockdowns were actually doing much since things have been trending down since we started opening things up.
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9:17a, 6/10/20
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Here is the situation in Virginia almost a month after we entered phase 1 and two weeks after we entered phase 2.

A possible spike in COVID-19 cases due to recent protests and the loosening of coronavirus restrictions still hasn't shown itself in Virginia Department of Health data. In fact, daily numbers are continuing to drop to levels not seen since the beginning of the pandemic in Virginia.

Virginia reported a third straight of falling daily COVID-19 cases on Wednesday, with the last two under 500 cases.

Wednesday's increase of 439 cases is the lowest since April 16. You'd have to go back to late April to find three straight days with under 600 cases reported.

Current COVID-19 hospitalizations (1,155) are down to their lowest point recorded during the pandemic in Virginia, and have now fallen by nearly 500 patients since the hospitalization peak in early May. ICU patients (296) and patients on ventilators (136) are at their lowest in Virginia to date.

https://www.wavy.com/news/virginia/virginia-june-10-covid-19-update-3rd-straight-day-of-low-case-numbers-hospitalization-numbers-lowest-to-date-for-va/
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 10:06a, 6/10/20
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Duncan Idaho said:
the protests are going to cause a pretty big spike. Dont know of anyone that has said differently
We would likely see a spike in # of cases due to protests. However, significant number of people participating in protests are in the very low risk category due to relatively younger participants.
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In reply to Observer • 10:07a, 6/10/20
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which likely makes them pre or asymptomatic vectors
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10:13a, 6/10/20
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This virus is passed around inside, usually while talking to somebody face to face for an extended period of time.

It will be interesting to see what these protests do to the #s.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 11:48a, 6/10/20
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Duncan Idaho said:
The seven day average have been moving down on a NATIONAL level because of the significant decline in the tristate area.

If you remove those, it is going in the wrong direction.
Yeah, I feel like people are missing this.

We've seen the highest 7 day averages in 14 different states over the past week.
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In reply to fig96 • 12:38p, 6/10/20
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Serious question (not trying to instigate): didn't we assume there would be a surge once things started opening back up? As in, didn't everyone know cases would go up once phase 2 and 3 started?
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12:42p, 6/10/20
Wasn't this the whole point of the hammer and the dance or whatever?
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In reply to Observer • 12:54p, 6/10/20
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Observer said:
Duncan Idaho said:
the protests are going to cause a pretty big spike. Dont know of anyone that has said differently
We would likely see a spike in # of cases due to protests. However, significant number of people participating in protests are in the very low risk category due to relatively younger participants.


My kids watched a lot more of the protest stuff on tv than I did. They said it looked like the majority of the protestors were wearing masks and seemed to be 30 or younger. So, wouldn't that put them in the lower risk category of catching or having Covid-19?

Is that pretty consistent with what everyone on here saw? Protestors 30 or younger and most wearing masks?
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In reply to murphyag • 1:33p, 6/10/20
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I saw lots of masks. It's more difficult to determine age when the masks are on, but it did look like most protesters were under the age of 30, certainly under the age of 40. There were outliers, of course.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 2:27p, 6/10/20
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Duncan Idaho said:
The seven day average have been moving down on a NATIONAL level because of the significant decline in the tristate area.

If you remove those, it is going in the wrong direction.


It's like you don't even look at statistics.
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In reply to Old Buffalo • 3:05p, 6/10/20
Old Buffalo said:
Duncan Idaho said:
The seven day average have been moving down on a NATIONAL level because of the significant decline in the tristate area.

If you remove those, it is going in the wrong direction.


It's like you don't even look at statistics.


Those are encouraging. I hadn't seen those. Thanks for posting them.

Do you have a link to the source?
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3:16p, 6/10/20
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Overall the country is doing much better. 14 states are not

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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 3:25p, 6/10/20
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https://public.tableau.com/profile/peter.james.walker#!/

Here is the landing summary page. Several different cuts to look through.
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In reply to ExpressAg11 • 8:51p, 6/10/20
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ExpressAg11 said:
Serious question (not trying to instigate): didn't we assume there would be a surge once things started opening back up? As in, didn't everyone know cases would go up once phase 2 and 3 started?
Personally, I would assume we'd see a slight increase in cases, but I was also thinking we'd still see people attempting to wear masks or at least social distance and a lot of folks seem to have thrown that out the window.

At this point I'm cautiously watching to see if we're looking at a gentle slope or if starts going exponential.
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In reply to fig96 • 9:47p, 6/10/20
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I think a lot of that is caused by all the misinformation out there. No two experts can agree on what people should be doing. It went from "everyone needs a mask" to "never mind, masks don't prevent it" to "WHY IS EVERYONE NOT WEARING A MASK?"

Same goes for "asymptomatic don't spread it" to "well it could be as high as 40%". Also, "it can stay on surfaces for days" to "it doesn't really stay on surfaces".

I think some people are just mentally tired and want to live their life, right or wrong.
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In reply to ExpressAg11 • 10:49p, 6/10/20
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Fair, but it's also not hard to do some combination of wearing a mask, not gathering in big groups, and not packing the bars and restaurants.
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In reply to fig96 • 10:59p, 6/10/20
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People that fall within a similar risk zone of most that end up in the hospital from this should absolutely adhere to that

If your a college bro right now, and around 0 elderly or high risk individuals in your day to day - why on earth would you NOT pack into a bar restaurant ? Or even if your a healthy younger to middle aged adult?
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