Broad testing revealing a lot of asymptomatic patients......

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Marcus Aurelius
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Not a revelation as I think most are seeing this. Of my sons varsity football team, 5/55 tested positive. No symptoms. Consulted on a COVID-19 admit mom today (47) mild sick (shouldn't have been admitted - now being discharged). Her 2 kids tested positive. No symptoms. All effects of opening. But hopefully won't spike admissions/deaths. We're trending down here now (admits/deaths).
Duncan Idaho
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That is good news.
terradactylexpress
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5/55 doesn't seem like a huge number
Marcus Aurelius
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Not terribly. Just surprising to see in a community with very little confirmed cases. Feels like it's not there.
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This is just the CURRENT cases, right? Not the antibody test? If it was 5 out of 55 that had antibodies, it would be just below the estimated national average.

But if it's just currently positive, what's to say another 5 of those 55 didn't have it back in March and not realize it either at that age. Then another 5 in April, etc. Could be 10 or 15 more out of 55 with antibodies, while 5 more currently have it.

As is 5/55 is 9%. At a 0.0026 death rate, for 107k to be dead, that would indicate that 41 million have had it, or 12%. Now I get that there is some lag in deaths versus recovery, but just in general.

Every 10% or so in America that starts to have it and gets immune likely lowers the spread rate quite a bit.
beerad12man
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Marcus, antibodies or currently have it? Or are they testing for both?
Marcus Aurelius
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Swab. Viral RNA in nasopharynx.
Pasquale Liucci
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Sounds like he's saying PCR test but very curious for him to confirm. If PCR then that's even more encouraging
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This is a major reason why one cannot compare case counts over time.

There is ZERO chance any of these positives would ever get counted as a case prior to a few weeks ago, if then.
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Small anecdotal story here too...my plant has 6 positives (all temps in a small department on 2nd shift)...one had mild symptoms and done...the rest zero symptoms and would have never known they had it (and fit protocol to keep working) had they not got tested on their own.
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We still don't know **** about this thing at that's super frustrating.

I live in a hard hit area, and yet I only know of two people who have tested positive. A 5th grader down the street. Super mild symptoms. Don't know if his parents or two sisters got it because at the time they had no symptoms so couldn't get a test. And a brother in law of my neighbor. The BIL is a firefighter. Felt like crap for a week, but his wife and kids never showed symptoms.

I feel completely unaffected where I am, but I know that people who have bad cases have really bad outcomes. Hard to square all the different facts right now.
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90ish year old woman friend of the family - diagnosed positive for COVID. She's on her 14th day and no symptoms.
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I have a coworker who tested positive recently. First symptoms May 26th. Mild case recovering at home. Her two early 20s sons and her husband positive no symptoms.
Pasquale Liucci
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It completely blows my mind that we understand so little about this disease still
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I have a colleague who is now almost a week into COVID-19 after a positive swab. He likely contracted it from his father, who was hospitalized at Emory Hospital with urosepsis and tested positive just after discharge (?nosocomial?). Anyway, my colleague is in his early 60s, is obese, and is about a year and a half out from chemo/rads for tonsil cancer. He also has cardiomyopathy, which was discovered at the end of his chemo course. He is doing really well at home, has fatigue but minimal fever and minimal cough. All along, I thought there was a high chance I would contract the disease as an ENT. I'm definitely feeling a LOT better about my chances after seeing how he is doing.

Edit: He is Blood Type O and I am Type A, so he has the advantage there. He told me he has a colleague who contracted COVID-19 while volunteering as a night shift cardiologist in Brooklyn and he made it through easily. Same age. Also Blood Type O.

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KlinkerAg11
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Is there any truth to the virus losing some potency as it's run its course?

It seems like it hit everyone harder at first and now it's seems mostly limited to elderly handling it poorly.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html
terradactylexpress
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Day late and a dollar short, they've already walked back that statement
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terradactylexpress said:

Day late and a dollar short, they've already walked back that statement


The WHO is one messaging disaster after another on this one.
terradactylexpress
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Agreed completely
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beerad12man said:

This is just the CURRENT cases, right? Not the antibody test? If it was 5 out of 55 that had antibodies, it would be just below the estimated national average.

But if it's just currently positive, what's to say another 5 of those 55 didn't have it back in March and not realize it either at that age. Then another 5 in April, etc. Could be 10 or 15 more out of 55 with antibodies, while 5 more currently have it.

As is 5/55 is 9%. At a 0.0026 death rate, for 107k to be dead, that would indicate that 41 million have had it, or 12%. Now I get that there is some lag in deaths versus recovery, but just in general.

Every 10% or so in America that starts to have it and gets immune likely lowers the spread rate quite a bit.

The antibody test is one looking for an indication. We aren't using it to make any clinical decisions in any of the hospitals I use.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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Lester Freamon said:

It completely blows my mind that we understand so little about this disease still


Is it possible that it's not that we don't understand it as much as the continuous info that is coming in doesn't confirm the initial reports? We all keep expecting something that hasn't materialized so maybe it's not what we thought it was.
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