Like many regions we are seeing a major increase in admits the last five days. Whereas our last surge was patients from local SNFs, now it seems most of these patients are transfers from smaller hospitals that are ICU overloaded and diverting. From smaller communities outside the region, including several hrs away. I believe this is not unexpected.

I'm seeing large amounts of young people getting infected. First hand my oldest dtr has coworker who tested pos. My dtr getting swabbed today. My good friend's son's best friend (in TX) tested pos. Now my friend's son getting swabbed. It's infiltrating young people with larger gatherings. Less adherence to earlier mitigation recommendations.

Similar to onset of COVID. If not worse. Think this is still first wave however.

It is only going to get worse as the larger churches open. If church of the highlands, briarwood and the other big churches in town fully open, this area is going to be like new york with the subways running.

I work in a medium sized hospital and we are holding multiple people in the ER every night due to lack of bed availability. The other night we were holding 17 patients who needed at least telemetry or stepdown status, and three ICU level patients.

Our issue is not lack of physical space, it is actually lack of nurses. Our ICU probably has the best staffing in the hospital and they have been full for the last week or two, although mostly with non-Covid patients.

I posted in another thread we've seen an uptick in people coming to the hospital after not going to the doctor for several months and either running out of medication or ignoring health issues because they were scared to get treatment.

Now do protests

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Now do protests

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One group of bug chasers is as bad as any other.

Duncan Idaho said:

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DrEvazanPhD said:

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Now do protests

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One group of bug chasers is as bad as any other.

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I would have to disagree. It is interesting that you lead with churches as the problem as mass riots/ protests have erupted all over our country and now two weeks later there is an increase in cases. Texas started opening up early May as did much of the south. At that point and through May there was never the increase people expected until the protests started. Now magically two to three weeks after they start there is an increase and you believe that churches are the issue. Agree to disagree.

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It is only going to get worse as the larger churches open. If church of the highlands, briarwood and the other big churches in town fully open, this area is going to be like new york with the subways running.

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How many weeks would you estimate?

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Protests were around 2 weeks ago, so that makes some intuitive sense, although people don't think the virus spreads well outdoors. It's confusing

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It doesn't spread as well outdoors in normal circumstances. When 50,000 people are nuts to butts screaming and yelling, it likely spreads quite easily.

Which, unfortunately, probably means no fans at sports for awhile.

What I will be interested to see, however, is the mental gymnastics that will be required to convince us sheep that outdoor protests could not have led to the spike, but outdoor sporting events inevitably will.

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Protests were around 2 weeks ago, so that makes some intuitive sense, although people don't think the virus spreads well outdoors. It's confusing

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It doesn't spread as well outdoors in normal circumstances. When 50,000 people are butts to nuts screaming and yelling, it likely spreads quite easily.

Which unfortunately, probably means no fans at sports for awhile.

What I will be interested to see, however, is the mental gymnastics that will be required to convince us sheep that outdoor protests could not have led to the spike, but outdoor sporting events inevitably will.

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The last part is the most interesting. I work in healthcare and the mental gymnastics I see doctors going through to try and not put any of the surge on the protests is mind boggling. You cannot on one hand condemn little league teeball and soccer games and on the other say the protests cannot cause an increase. I really believe most are scared to be called a racist for pointing out the obvious.

Do I think it's only protestors getting sick, absolutely not. At the same time it is hard to deny that we know large gatherings can spread this thing like wildfire. The virus doesn't pick and choose who it infects by what they are doing.

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What I will be interested to see, however, is the mental gymnastics that will be required to convince us sheep that outdoor protests could not have led to the spike, but outdoor sporting events inevitably will.

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One of the reasons that people aren't taking it seriously and are getting covid fatigue is the flip flopping. Ron Nirnberg, SA Mayor has been getting on TV and sanctimoniously lecturing everyone about wearing masks, but 2 weeks ago he was out pandering to the protesters.

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RandyAg98 said:

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What I will be interested to see, however, is the mental gymnastics that will be required to convince us sheep that outdoor protests could not have led to the spike, but outdoor sporting events inevitably will.

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One of the reasons that people aren't taking it seriously and are getting covid fatigue is the flip flopping. Ron Nirnberg, SA Mayor has been getting on TV and sanctimoniously lecturing everyone about wearing masks, but 2 weeks ago he was out pandering to the protesters.

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This ^2

I've seen multiple reports of a lot of positives on police forces because the protesters have taken to spitting on those against them.

Yes the hypocrisy of this situation is unreal. As someone posted in F16 yesterday there is a city in Oregon that mandated masks in public for everyone except "people of color" - optional for them if they feel "repressed" being forced to wear a mask.

Still mainly old and in firmed. Have one 44 y/o. However seeing a lot of outpt pos 15-40.

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It is only going to get worse as the larger churches open. If church of the highlands, briarwood and the other big churches in town fully open, this area is going to be like new york with the subways running.

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As an atheist, you have no idea what safety precautions churches are requiring for worship. Take your anti-Christian BS somewhere else.

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Please feel free to explain any antichrostian bias in thst post?

Los Angeles County public health director: 'Highly likely' George Floyd protests caused coronavirus spike.'

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/la-county-public-health-director-highly-likely-george-floyd-protests-caused-coronavirus-spike

All the charts showing an uptick since the Phase I and Phase II openings should also be updated to show the dates of the mass gatherings and marches in late May/early June.

On your original post. I live in Brewster county and our small regional hospital has 25 beds and 2 icu. This hospital serves Brewster, Presidio, and Jeff Davis county. Over the past weeks we have gone from 1 to 61 cases and 75 in the tri county area. Over 950 people were tested Thursday thru Monday. I have a feeling we will be sending patients out soon. And as for the other talk on the tread. Can not blame our uptick on protesting.

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So what caused the uptick in Alpine? Was there a festival or something? Seems like a huge increase for an area that is naturally social distanced.

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Opening back up and tourists would be my guess.

BQAg84 said:

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Los Angeles County public health director: 'Highly likely' George Floyd protests caused coronavirus spike.'

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/la-county-public-health-director-highly-likely-george-floyd-protests-caused-coronavirus-spike

All the charts showing an uptick since the Phase I and Phase II openings should also be updated to show the dates of the mass gatherings and marches in late May/early June.

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But how?
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Doesn't look like anything to me.

But the inane CNN article referencing a "study" obviously not peer reviewed, already published a couple of weeks after protests, that showed "BLM protests do not lead to COVID transmission." Absolutely incredulous. Look at those photos above. Nothing ceases to amaze me today. Nothing.

When I was in academics (basic science genetics), we would submit original research papers to journals for publication often. It took weeks/months, with back and forth communication/revisions to get approval. Even longer to get print. LOL. 2 weeks. Whew.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/coronavirus-cases-protests-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html