Theory that Covid-19 may not have originated in China

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Covid-19 may not have originated in China, Oxford University expert believes

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Dr Tom Jefferson, senior CEBM tutor, believes that many viruses lie dormant throughout the globe, and emerge when conditions are favourable

Coronavirus may have lain dormant across the world and emerged when environmental conditions were right for it to thrive - rather than starting in China, an Oxford University expert believes.

Dr Tom Jefferson, senior associate tutor at the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM), at Oxford, and visiting professor at Newcastle University, argues that there is growing evidence that the virus was elsewhere before it emerged in Asia.

Last week, Spanish virologists announced they had found traces of the disease in samples of waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the coronavirus disease was seen in China.

Italian scientists have also found evidence of coronavirus in sewage samples in Milan and Turin, in mid-December, many weeks before the first case was detected, while experts have found traces in Brazil in November.

Dr Jefferson believes that many viruses lie dormant throughout the globe and emerge when conditions are favourable. It also means they can vanish as quickly as they arrive.

"Where did Sars 1 go? It's just disappeared," he said "So we have to think about these things. We need to start researching the ecology of the virus, understanding how it originates and mutates.

"I think the virus was already here, here meaning everywhere. We may be seeing a dormant virus that has been activated by environmental conditions.

"There was a case in the Falkland Islands in early February. Now where did that come from? There was a cruise ship that went from South Georgia to Buenos Aires, and the passengers were screened and then on day eight, when they started sailing towards the Weddell Sea, they got the first case. Was it in prepared food that was defrosted and activated?

"Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918 around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu, and they hadn't had any communication with the outside world.

"The explanation for this could only be that these agents don't come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should be looking for."
Not sure what to think about, but it certainly would explain the cases of what seem an awful lot like Covid-19 but which predate the current known date of onset.
Diyala Nick
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What are the odds that the same environmental thresholds are met nearly simultaneously at Ft. Riley, Kansas and in Western Samoa (in the case of the 1918 Flu)?

What are those same odds for Tehran, Northern Italy, and South Korea?

This seems like a stretch.
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The March 2019 Spain deal was probably a false positive. That's a much simpler explanation.
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I think this has merit however we will not hear or see anything further on it. Doesn't fit the narrative.
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How much did China pay him for that?
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CardiffGiant said:

I think this has merit however we will not hear or see anything further on it. Doesn't fit the narrative.
There's no 'narrative'.
74OA
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What matters in this context is that the CCP's lies, delays and obstruction allowed a local epidemic to explode into a global pandemic.

Even if it is ultimately found that the virus didn't originate in Wuhan, the pandemic did.
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74OA said:

What matters in this context is that the CCP's lies, delays and obstruction allowed a local epidemic to explode into a global pandemic.

Even if it is ultimately found that the virus didn't originate in Wuhan, the pandemic did.
I agree that China's role in this, whether it was the origin, or just the first major flashpoint, should not be ignored. Even if this theory is right (and I'm skeptical), then it would seem that there has to be some catalyst that causes the virus to become an epidemic, and that pretty clearly occurred in China.
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